Live Together, Die Alone

There is not much time left now, the season finale of Lost season 2 airs in about 3 hours.

This is the official description of the Lost episode “Live Together, Die Alone”:

After discovering something odd just offshore, Jack and Sayid come up with a plan to confront “The Others” and hopefully get Walt back. Meanwhile, Eko and Locke come to blows as Locke makes a potentially cataclysmic decision regarding the “button” and the hatch, on the two-hour season finale.

Will they manage to save Walt? Are Jack and Sayid going to stop Michael from taking them to The Others? What’s up with the boat that approached the island at the end of last weeks Lost episode? What made Oceanic flight 815 crash? What happens when they don’t push the button in the hatch?

There are a lot of unanswered questions, but hopefully the two hour Lost season finale will answer many of them.

Feel free to discuss the episode in the comments of this post!

And for those who are wondering, yes, there will be a third season of Lost.

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580 Responses to Live Together, Die Alone

  1. ihearit says:

    Is anyone done watching it yet? i got lots to say

  2. mike simmons says:

    [quote comment=”2746″]Is anyone done watching it yet? i got lots to say[/quote]

    im watching the show. first hour all recap?

  3. mm says:

    Yup first hour is a recap, cant wait. I really want to know the mystery why they crashed on this island.

  4. ihearit says:

    im done watching it, it got over an hour ago for me

  5. mike simmons says:

    recap is finally over, can’t wait….

  6. Julie says:

    recap JUST started here… My mom is just finishing up watching the whole thing on the west coast. so far shes called me with all kinds of questions that I dont know the answer to… UGH!

  7. Tim says:

    what is going on…there is 10 minutes left in the show….I can not believe what just happened

  8. Tim says:

    who in the hell is Henry

  9. Shamice says:

    wow, what was with the russians?

  10. mik says:

    “With enough money and determination…”

    Looks like the island’s been found.

    Also, I’m a bit hazy on the WHidmore connection, what was it again?

  11. Chris says:

    [quote comment=”2746″]Is anyone done watching it yet? i got lots to say[/quote]
    Yeah, I didnt understand the ending. Did you?

  12. Sylvo says:

    Me says Charles Widmore is the runner of this whole thing. That would explain how Penny found out about Desmond, and why those Russian Antarctic guys were looking for the island.

    Holy crap, LOST is FOUND! Wooohhooooohooo.

    Ahem. Best cliffhangers (plural) EVAR. =P

  13. Chris says:

    who are the people that Henry is associated with?

  14. Sylvo says:

    The Others. ;)

  15. Twiceborn says:

    I am still a bit hazy, who is Charles Widmore, I was at work for the first 20 minutes. OMG I am like wow and lost all in one. I mean, how are the others the good guys, what did he mean by that? and how is michael going to find help? Where the hell are they? and what is with Des’s girlfriend. What is the connection to her and the island??? Someone please fill me in?>????

  16. joey says:

    who were those guys in the snowy place

  17. mik says:

    I’m thinking Fake Henry is large and in charge. His presence was pretty huge on the docks.

    What was that thing that fell from the sky? Was it a box that said ‘quarantine’ on it, or just the old hatch door?

  18. matt says:

    For those of you who are still confused, the artist formerly known as Henry Gale, is the short little white guy the Danielle(forgive my spelling) trapped in the net, then proceeded to shoot w/ her crossbow. He then had an exciting tour of the inside of the hatch armory, free of charge! then Michael went on his little hunting expedition in the hatch, and let him go. Then he shows up from a boat on the docks. Kudos to all who prophicized that he was the leader, that seems evident.

  19. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2765″]I’m thinking Fake Henry is large and in charge. His presence was pretty huge on the docks.

    What was that thing that fell from the sky? Was it a box that said ‘quarantine’ on it, or just the old hatch door?[/quote]

    It wasin fact, the old hatch door.

  20. Chris says:

    Yeah, I am trying to figure out who Henry is and who those people are. Why did they take michael in the first place? Why did they want those 3 characters?
    This show is awesome, but it leaves with too many questions. I guess thats why it keeps it interesting.?

  21. Twiceborn says:

    but who is charles whidmore??

  22. Ginger says:

    What exactly can we say on this site? So, did Desmond’s girlfriend really just try to find him? On the island? I still have no clue who Henry and friends are. And the captured folks? Do you think the others will just release them back to reality? I’m LOST and confused!

  23. Chris says:

    Charles Widmmore is the lady at the end of the shows father. She is Desmond’s old girlfriend and Charles didnt want Desmond around his daughter. He tried to buy Desmond off early in the show that you missed.
    (And leave his daughter alone)

  24. Keys says:

    I KNOW I’ve seen that name Widmore before. Where the heck was it?

  25. amanda says:

    hey i just translated the egyptian hieroglyphuics from when the countdown ran out and vaguely it spells “shiahi” muslim connection… does that mean anythiny to anyone else?

  26. Chris says:

    I am lost and confused, too. Someone who knows or understands something, help us out here.

  27. Shamice says:

    so is lock and desmond dead, was the huge flash and odd sound an explosion???????????

  28. steve says:

    I think the henry is fighting to keep the island secret, but now the secret is out. that is why he is a good guy. and whidmore is searching for the magnet as a weapon. why those three?? i don’t know. great show keeps u watchin

  29. Keys says:

    I believe the hieroglyphics spell out “Cause to die”

  30. Glen says:

    Widmore is the father of the girl that desmond was supposed to marry.

  31. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2770″]What exactly can we say on this site? So, did Desmond’s girlfriend really just try to find him? On the island? I still have no clue who Henry and friends are. And the captured folks? Do you think the others will just release them back to reality? I’m LOST and confused![/quote]

    Henry is the one they captured, u kno the dude who claimed to have gotten here on a ballon, his friends on the dock where the others

  32. Sylvo says:

    This answer sponsered by Widmore Labs Pregnancy Test, Big ‘Ol Construction Building De Widmore, and one podcast mention to “look out for Widmore in the future”.

  33. ed says:

    hey i missed the ending preview can someone fill me in i just saw some girl on a phone and thats it please help!

  34. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2771″]Charles Widmmore is the lady at the end of the shows father. She is Desmond’s old girlfriend and Charles didnt want Desmond around his daughter. He tried to buy Desmond off early in the show that you missed.
    (And leave his daughter alone)[/quote]

    omg chris thanks dude, that makes so much sense now!

  35. amanda says:

    why “cause to die”? where did u get that from?

  36. Keys says:

    Thanks Sylvo

  37. Steve says:

    That was everything I wanted and more!
    I just knew an EMP was responsible for the plane crash! That’s been the best theory ever since Season 1.

    They left a lot of loose ends:

    What about Sayid/Jin/Son? They know everything is fake now. Sayid is still the smartest Lostie. I can’t remember him ever being wrong.

    What about Locke/Eko/Desmond? (Desmond likely isn’t gone, they wouldn’t bring his woman in at end if he didn’t have a large part to play. Locke will be fine, we never learned how he was paralyzed and I do anticipate that’s going to tie together several things pre-crash.)

    Can Hurley make it back on his own? Will they just kill him on his way back to the Losties?

    Michael and Walt? Will they head towards bearing 325 for “rescue” or will they come back?

    Calvin as the former US General was a nice twist. How he died was great scripting, and great acting by Desmond.

    The pulse! The Russians “I think we found it.” WOW. Awesome.

    Too much to talk about now. Will rewatch tomorrow and enjoy it all over again!

  38. steve says:

    the pulse was released. this was protecting the island from people finding it. the dharma project was just a big ruse to keep the people there, but in reality they are protecting the island.

  39. Keys says:

    It was on another web site that had translated it when it first appeared

  40. Glen says:

    Apparently, Desmond ex is spending some cash to have the russians monitor for electromagnetic anamolys. This will help her to find desmond.
    As for the crash of flight 814:
    when desmond didn’t enter the code when he was on his little rampage, the electromagnet basically pulled the metal plane from the sky.
    It seems that widmore is content on trying to keep desmond on the island so he can’t marry his daughter. Meanwhile she trys to find desmond

  41. person mcdude says:

    desmond was in the british army but was imprisoned (um why? “disobeying orders”? ) when he got out, charles whidmore a wealthy old guy was out there waiting for him, and gave him money in return for never seeing his daughter again (he also stopped all of desmond’s letters from reaching her). the daugther was the girl at the end and was at the track.

  42. emc says:

    So here are some thoughts:

    Walt – My theory – they had harvested some tissue from him (per hanso corp) …something to do with his psychic prowess…

    Maybe they want to harvest some tissue from the people captured

    Electromagnetic theory seems to be right on – and that was some sort of ultraviolet blast at the end…

    Electromagnetism is a component of string theory. And string theory is the concept of multiple alternate universes existing side by side….

  43. MIKE says:

    ARE YOU PEOPLE BLIND??

    jESUS… YOU DIDNT EVEN MAKE THE BIG CONNECTION. DID YOU SEE desmond show up at the track. did you see who pulled up behind them? umm, ya that was jack. from when they met in season 1.

    Oh, since you don’t remember season 1. Let me rewind you. Did you remember how jack performed surgery on a girl? She had a fiance that left her and then she fell in love with Jack. Through many episodes later we found out that she eventually left Jack and we never knew why?

    Well that’s b/c she found good old desmond at the race track. PAM is jack’s ex-fiance and desmond’s long lost love. PAM has lost both Jack and Desmond from ‘mysterious’ disappearances and is now on the hunt for the island. How does she know there is an island?? well duh, he freakin father is running the show.

    Now the others? and then being the ‘good guys’ and what exactly they do. im open to a number of theories.

  44. person mcdude says:

    damn that was like 10 posts in teh time i took to post…

  45. mik says:

    [quote comment=”2781″]hey i missed the ending preview can someone fill me in i just saw some girl on a phone and thats it please help![/quote]

    Heh, well, that is it! Two guys with major cabin fever, in a small research station, presumably in SIberia (or other desolate arctic place), detected an electromagnetic thingie, called up said girl on the phone, and you saw the rest.

  46. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2788″]Apparently, Desmond ex is spending some cash to have the russians monitor for electromagnetic anamolys. This will help her to find desmond.
    As for the crash of flight 814:
    when desmond didn’t enter the code when he was on his little rampage, the electromagnet basically pulled the metal plane from the sky.
    It seems that widmore is content on trying to keep desmond on the island so he can’t marry his daughter. Meanwhile she trys to find desmond[/quote]
    umm this theory is wrong and full of holes.. It just doesnt make sense this way. I agree with steve

  47. MIKE says:

    read my post.

  48. Glen says:

    good observation mike.
    I did see jack in the backround, that was no surprize. I did recall them speaking while thy were running the stairsin a previous episode. You make a great connection between jack and desmond!

  49. LostDamery says:

    Wow and I mean Wow we are going to be LOST all over the world. Desmonds girl Ms. Whitmore paid enough money to find her man hidden on a huge magnetic island by her Evil father who is part of Dharma. So we have all summer to think about where Sayid is and what happened to Locke and Echo…Alive or Dead? I think alive since Charlie was able to survive but I am curious if Desmond made it out…
    Many more questions coming…
    What did Walt teach the others?
    Is Libby aka Elizabeth a Dharma plant..with Desmond and Hurley???
    Do you really think Michael and Walt are free?

  50. Felicity says:

    Just wanted to clarify something. The men were speaking Portuguese not Russian.

  51. steve says:

    it seems also in the letter she wrote about one person to save everyone that she new all this would happen. remember we never saw desmond hit the water when the boat crashed. he may have been placed there by whidmores people. what was up with the foot statue with 4 toes??? made the island is full of radiation and caused a race of people with 4 toes. and the others are decendants of this race.

  52. Amy says:

    um…okay, but why would an electromagnetic anomlys (sp) tell her and the Russians where Desmond was? In other words, what does an electromagnetic anything have to do with Desmond?

  53. mik says:

    Michael and Walt just sailing off seems a little too easy. After all the trouble of getting Walt and keeping him, and then he was just “more than they bargained for?” Its weird just to let the two of them just sail away.

    And Miss Whidmore is not Jack’s woman, two totally different actresses as well, there’s no real connection there.

  54. mike says:

    Well that’s b/c she found good old desmond at the race track. PAM is jack’s ex-fiance and desmond’s long lost love. PAM has lost both Jack and Desmond from ‘mysterious’ disappearances and is now on the hunt for the island. How does she know there is an island?? well duh, he freakin father is running the show.

    ummm, i think you’re thinking of sarah. and no one is “PAM.” the woman who followed him was penny. they are two different people. people aren’t finding your BIG CONNECTION because it doesn’t exist.

  55. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2799″]it seems also in the letter she wrote about one person to save everyone that she new all this would happen. remember we never saw desmond hit the water when the boat crashed. he may have been placed there by whidmores people. what was up with the foot statue with 4 toes??? made the island is full of radiation and caused a race of people with 4 toes. and the others are decendants of this race.[/quote]

    wtf, are u crazy?

  56. Glen says:

    As someone has just mentioned, I think that somehow she must have found out here fathers plan, and now is trying to rescue them.

  57. Amy says:

    [quote comment=”2791″]ARE YOU PEOPLE BLIND??

    jESUS… YOU DIDNT EVEN MAKE THE BIG CONNECTION. DID YOU SEE desmond show up at the track. did you see who pulled up behind them? umm, ya that was jack. from when they met in season 1.

    Oh, since you don’t remember season 1. Let me rewind you. Did you remember how jack performed surgery on a girl? She had a fiance that left her and then she fell in love with Jack. Through many episodes later we found out that she eventually left Jack and we never knew why?

    Well that’s b/c she found good old desmond at the race track. PAM is jack’s ex-fiance and desmond’s long lost love. PAM has lost both Jack and Desmond from ‘mysterious’ disappearances and is now on the hunt for the island. How does she know there is an island?? well duh, he freakin father is running the show.

    Now the others? and then being the ‘good guys’ and what exactly they do. im open to a number of theories.[/quote]

    That sure wasnt the same actress who played Jacks ex. That actress was the chick from Boston Legal.

  58. Twiceborn says:

    I think some people are on here are confusing what they saw, seriously though, what was with the big statue. Personally I think that whidmore was the one behind the Dharma Initiative, and that Henry doesnt want anyone on the island. Thats a fact so far. But there are other holes to be filled :D

  59. Keys says:

    Mike – It’s Pen (Penny), not Pam

  60. Amy says:

    [quote comment=”2801″]Michael and Walt just sailing off seems a little too easy. After all the trouble of getting Walt and keeping him, and then he was just “more than they bargained for?” Its weird just to let the two of them just sail away.

    And Miss Whidmore is not Jack’s woman, two totally different actresses as well, there’s no real connection there.[/quote]

    mmhmmm…thank you…totally agree

  61. Ali says:

    PAM is not Jack’s ex-wife

  62. liam says:

    is lost still gona be on or was that its last epsiode?
    And who died(eko and lock or just desmond?)

  63. Fanny says:

    Mike – I’m not blind and neither is my family. Pam is Pam, Desmond’s babe is Penny and she looks nothing like Pam and has a Brit. accent. Also we saw Pam’s family in the Engagement Party scene and they were fairly American. Sorry!

  64. Glen says:

    What was up with libby in the insane asylum several episode ago with hurley?
    Any theories??

  65. Amy says:

    The “other” with the beard….have we seen him before? I mean, when he took off his beard, should we have recognized him?

  66. liam says:

    well how would desmond be in love with her to if jack didnt know him even tho he met Pam a long time ago in the surgeroy room?

  67. Amy says:

    also, 325 on the compass…someone who knows something about navigating should decipher that one…are they in the B. Triangle?

  68. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2813″]The “other” with the beard….have we seen him before? I mean, when he took off his beard, should we have recognized him?[/quote]

    they knew earlier in the series that his beard was fake. I wonder why they are hiding so much. Was the huts thier actual home or a decoy? And why did the hatch have a rectangle on it. Also there was nothing inside? Anyone care to explain?

  69. amanda says:

    besides , jack went to run when he thought he had messed up the surgery, he thought she was gonna die, couldn’t have possily been the same chick

  70. mik says:

    Maybe the statue was the foot of a cartoon character and the island was going to be a giant theme park, but at the last minute became a top secret, whatver-the-heck-you-call-it.

    Let’s face it, the four-toed foot statue is completely wide open for interpretation, it’s way too early to even try to wrap our minds around.

    Sawyer did mention aliens…

  71. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2817″]besides , jack went to run when he thought he had messed up the surgery, he thought she was gonna die, couldn’t have possily been the same chick[/quote]

    thats what im tryin to say

  72. jb says:

    i believe that tonight show brought about many questions for us dedicated viewers. i am still a bit cuious to know why “elizabeth” ..libby was so willing to let desmond have her boat?? .. if i had a boat i would pawn it first before giving it away for free.

    anothee thought i had is how would Pen (desmonds lova’) know that desmond was stuck on an island with a huge magnet? i believe that her family produces the huge magnets for the hanso foundation and the ” chess players in the snow ” are the watchers to make sure that they dont break.. or they are trying to find a magnet that was stolen !!! ohhhhhhh ahhhhh ??

    also, sorry.. but the map that was painted on the door with detergent, was that real.. was the person that was with demond know about all the hatches ???

    and what did one snow man say to the other snow man ?

    (hi jennifer : ) )

  73. nolly says:

    First of all Desmond’s girl is named Penny not Pam. Second, Jack’s fiance’s name is sarah.

  74. Chris says:

    [quote comment=”2813″]The “other” with the beard….have we seen him before? I mean, when he took off his beard, should we have recognized him?[/quote]

    I think he was one of the ones who took Walt away from Michael on the boat at the end of season 1.

  75. Amy says:

    Heres another problem…walt and dumb Michael have been seperated and now they are in the boat…now, you think Walt would start explaining what he meant when he said “they arent who they say they are”, or maybe he could explain WHAT IN THE HELL THEY HAVE BEEN DOING WITH HIM ALL THIS TIME…but no…him and his papa are hush hush…staring at the poor 3 hotties he gave up for….who knows what

  76. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2820″]i believe that tonight show brought about many questions for us dedicated viewers. i am still a bit cuious to know why “elizabeth” ..libby was so willing to let desmond have her boat?? .. if i had a boat i would pawn it first before giving it away for free.

    anothee thought i had is how would Pen (desmonds lova’) know that desmond was stuck on an island with a huge magnet? i believe that her family produces the huge magnets for the hanso foundation and the ” chess players in the snow ” are the watchers to make sure that they dont break.. or they are trying to find a magnet that was stolen !!! ohhhhhhh ahhhhh ??

    also, sorry.. but the map that was painted on the door with detergent, was that real.. was the person that was with demond know about all the hatches ???

    and what did one snow man say to the other snow man ?

    (hi jennifer : ) )[/quote]

    hey thats is kinda true but how is pam dad in the islands control and were wher all those kids taken too

  77. amanda says:

    we still need a true decipher of the glyphs…. my degree is in general archaeology, not egyptology…

  78. mik says:

    [quote comment=”2816″][quote comment=”2813″]Was the huts thier actual home or a decoy? And why did the hatch have a rectangle on it. Also there was nothing inside? Anyone care to explain?[/quote]

    All of the ‘Others’ beachfront community was fake and just for show, probably for Michael’s benefit the whole time. Kind of an elaborate ruse, but isn’t that the whole island? The ‘Others’ hatch was just a fake one, along with the huts.

  79. bob says:

    smells like carrots

  80. nolly says:

    First of all Desmond’s girl is named Penny not Pam. Second, Jack’s fiance’s name is sarah.

  81. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2821″]First of all Desmond’s girl is named Penny not Pam. Second, Jack’s fiance’s name is sarah.[/quote]

    my fault with the pam =)

  82. Twiceborn says:

    whats up mik, why did u repost my repost?

  83. Amy says:

    I dont know if I can buy the whole aliens thing, but I thought maybe that end shot where the camera was focused on the stars, then panned down to the fire and sparks…was supposed to be a hint.

    I like the theme park idea…where is the rest of the statue?

  84. liam says:

    i need a recap of about the first 1 hour of the lost cause i was kinda gone during it =(

  85. realtor190 says:

    Ok, the tubes were going into a big pile. No one was reading them. No one was watching “them”…in the hatch.
    Did not-pushing-the-button, really bring the plane down?
    Did the hatch blow-up… we did see the hatch door land on the beach.
    Did not-pushing-the-button THIS time bring down ANOTHER plane?
    Was the bright light and loud noise a force field going down; that was hiding the island?

    Where IS Jimmy Hoffa?

  86. Amy says:

    Bermuda Triangle!! Explains why plains and boats disappear…also, why he told Michael that they can leave but not find their way back…you can’t find your way “in” the Bermuda Triangle!!

  87. Amy says:

    OOPS, spelled planes wrong…but you get the point.

  88. Twiceborn says:

    I totally agree with the statue thing, how it is too early to even guess, but personally I think that locke eko and desmond are still alive, but I beleive that one of them will die. Not in the next episode but in some to come, from explosion related injuries. Locke told eko that he was wrong, but where was charlie, how did he escape?

  89. Chris says:

    Yeah whats the deal with the statue? People have asked. Anyone got any guesses?

  90. Amy says:

    [quote comment=”2833″]Ok, the tubes were going into a big pile. No one was reading them. No one was watching “them”…in the hatch.
    Did not-pushing-the-button, really bring the plane down?
    Did the hatch blow-up… we did see the hatch door land on the beach.
    Did not-pushing-the-button THIS time bring down ANOTHER plane?
    Was the bright light and loud noise a force field going down; that was hiding the island?

    Where IS Jimmy Hoffa?[/quote]

    Not to worry…just read in Newsweek that the Feds are stilling looking for Hoffa…:)

  91. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2836″]I totally agree with the statue thing, how it is too early to even guess, but personally I think that locke eko and desmond are still alive, but I beleive that one of them will die. Not in the next episode but in some to come, from explosion related injuries. Locke told eko that he was wrong, but where was charlie, how did he escape?[/quote]

    when is the next episode?

  92. amanda says:

    the b triangle is near the bahamas… not a direct routwe from australia to cali

  93. Twiceborn says:

    ur right, jimmy hoffa created the island back in the 80’s, and planned his comeback witha hit tv show, and its a fact that hoffa had only four toes on his left foot!

    Haha, just kidding.. HEHE

  94. Chris says:

    The dates on the computer print out…I can’t remember exactly but the format look like mmddyy00:00. and the year part said 04. so we now for sure it takes place in 2004

  95. Chris says:

    The dates on the computer print out…I can’t remember exactly but the format look like mmddyy00:00. and the year part said 04. so we now for sure it takes place in 2004

  96. liam says:

    but too get to las angles from australia u have to go that way right?

  97. mik says:

    Weird, I /thought/ I was replying to Amy, sorry Twiceborn!

  98. Amy says:

    I felt sorry for locke with that “im sorry” look on his face…but his line “I was wrong” made me laugh…ya think?

  99. Amy says:

    Maybe so, but what else makes sense in this whole LOST thing. They moved the BD!

  100. Kelvin says:

    Does anyone make anything of this???

    “Dharma” means “protection”. By practising Buddha’s teachings we protect ourself from suffering and problems. All the problems we experience during daily life originate in ignorance, and the method for eliminating ignorance is to practise Dharma.

    Practising Dharma is the supreme method for improving the quality of our human life. The quality of life depends not upon external development or material progress, but upon the inner development of peace and happiness. For example, in the past many Buddhists lived in poor and underdeveloped countries, but they were able to find pure, lasting happiness by practising what Buddha had taught.

    If we integrate Buddha’s teachings into our daily life, we will be able to solve all our inner problems and attain a truly peaceful mind. Without inner peace, outer peace is impossible. If we first establish peace within our minds by training in spiritual paths, outer peace will come naturally; but if we do not, world peace will never be achieved, no matter how many people campaign for it.

  101. ed says:

    is the guy who took desmond off the beach the same guy who had the fake bread?and whats the name of that guy the one who took him off the beach.

  102. Chris says:

    I think the island is hidden somehow. That is why henry told micheal he couldnt find his way back.

  103. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2848″]is the guy who took desmond off the beach the same guy who had the fake bread?and whats the name of that guy the one who took him off the beach.[/quote]

    well really when you think about it desmond killed him

  104. Twiceborn says:

    It cant be the Bermuda Triangle, its no where near it. I beleive this island to be in fact…..u ready for this….SPOILER ALERT

    GILLIGANS ISLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  105. AmyW says:

    there are two of us amys on Here…I’ll add a W

  106. Lesley says:

    I do not believe for a second that Walt and Michael are free. (Michael has some payback coming now too.) Good call who ever it was that opined Not-Henry was in charge. Not-Henry wanted Locke to quit pressing the button right? But it seems he is most interested in staying hidden so that is confusing. I am betting that Widmore paid Libby to offer Des the boat. (I wonder what else she did?) Does that mean the Others are against Dharma (I always thought they were)but not sure how they fit. Do they need to stay hidden to damage Hanso Foundation without losing their lives? So does that mean they are recruiting Jack, Kate and Sawyer? I am still stuck on the time warp thing…could they be from the future?…the past? Looks like Jack and Kate (and Sawyer??) have a plan cooked up with the eyes closing thing – I am sure that will be good. I am guessing that Locke, Eko and Desmond are ok but what kind of shape are they in? Have they now been exposed to radiation or something similar? (Looks like we are going to have to research EMT.) Dude, Hurley is going to tell…. I cannot wait to watch this again…It is going to be a long summer and to coin a phrase heard here… “they are going to need a bigger boat”! Loved the answers and the new questions. Best show on TV!

  107. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2852″]It cant be the Bermuda Triangle, its no where near it. I beleive this island to be in fact…..u ready for this….SPOILER ALERT

    GILLIGANS ISLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

    hahaha rofl

  108. bob says:

    Anything up with the fact that Calvin Inman, the “army general” that dealt with both Desmond and Sayid has a last name similar to Inmate, which was the name of the asylum hurley and company were at…also the password on thehansofoundation.org website thing? Strangely similar.

  109. liam says:

    does anyone here know tho when the next episode airs?

  110. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2849″]Does anyone make anything of this???

    “Dharma” means “protection”. By practising Buddha’s teachings we protect ourself from suffering and problems. All the problems we experience during daily life originate in ignorance, and the method for eliminating ignorance is to practise Dharma.

    Practising Dharma is the supreme method for improving the quality of our human life. The quality of life depends not upon external development or material progress, but upon the inner development of peace and happiness. For example, in the past many Buddhists lived in poor and underdeveloped countries, but they were able to find pure, lasting happiness by practising what Buddha had taught.

    If we integrate Buddha’s teachings into our daily life, we will be able to solve all our inner problems and attain a truly peaceful mind. Without inner peace, outer peace is impossible. If we first establish peace within our minds by training in spiritual paths, outer peace will come naturally; but if we do not, world peace will never be achieved, no matter how many people campaign for it.[/quote]

    This is a f***ing TV show, not a religious experience. Budha has nothing to do with it. STILL no one talks about the rectangle on the others hatch door>?>?>?>?

  111. AmyW says:

    [quote comment=”2851″][quote comment=”2848″]is the guy who took desmond off the beach the same guy who had the fake bread?and whats the name of that guy the one who took him off the beach.[/quote]

    well really when you think about it desmond killed him[/quote]

    hmmm…did he kill him? OR, do he just give him a nasty boo boo and not check for a pulse….

  112. Keys says:

    Think on this…

    Darhma folks have only been involved with the island for maby 30 years at best. The “Black Rock” was a slave ship (circa early 1800’s maybe?). It is in the middle of the freakin’ island. Slaves…lots of chains and metals on board. Could the magnetic pulse dragged it there?

    Just a reminder that it doesn’t all begin with the Darhma folks. They are just exploiting whatever is going on there.

  113. HT says:

    [quote comment=”2791″]ARE YOU PEOPLE BLIND??

    jESUS… YOU DIDNT EVEN MAKE THE BIG CONNECTION. DID YOU SEE desmond show up at the track. did you see who pulled up behind them? umm, ya that was jack. from when they met in season 1.

    Oh, since you don’t remember season 1. Let me rewind you. Did you remember how jack performed surgery on a girl? She had a fiance that left her and then she fell in love with Jack. Through many episodes later we found out that she eventually left Jack and we never knew why?

    Well that’s b/c she found good old desmond at the race track. PAM is jack’s ex-fiance and desmond’s long lost love. PAM has lost both Jack and Desmond from ‘mysterious’ disappearances and is now on the hunt for the island. How does she know there is an island?? well duh, he freakin father is running the show.

    Now the others? and then being the ‘good guys’ and what exactly they do. im open to a number of theories.[/quote]

    That women at the end was not the woman Jack operated on. She was still recovering in the hopital when Jack went to the track to run and met Desmond. Also that woman was played by someone totally different, she was played by Julie Bowen from the TV show “ED”. I don’t think they would change actors/actresses because this show relies on it’s viewers making connections from one scene/show to another.

  114. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2859″][quote comment=”2851″][quote comment=”2848″]is the guy who took desmond off the beach the same guy who had the fake bread?and whats the name of that guy the one who took him off the beach.[/quote]

    well really when you think about it desmond killed him[/quote]

    hmmm…did he kill him? OR, do he just give him a nasty boo boo and not check for a pulse….[/quote]

    i really never thought of it that way but when u rip something off yourself dosent it hurt and will make u scream?

  115. AmyW says:

    I dont remember a rectangle…or else I would talk about it for you.

  116. liam says:

    And please will some one here give me a recap of the first hour of lost please?????

  117. amanda says:

    history people… no slave ships ever sailed east towards australia or india… or anywhere near there… they only came to north and south america… not a slave ship!

  118. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2860″]Think on this…

    Darhma folks have only been involved with the island for maby 30 years at best. The “Black Rock” was a slave ship (circa early 1800’s maybe?). It is in the middle of the freakin’ island. Slaves…lots of chains and metals on board. Could the magnetic pulse dragged it there?

    Just a reminder that it doesn’t all begin with the Darhma folks. They are just exploiting whatever is going on there.[/quote]

    Very True, there is OBVIOUSLY something with the magnetism and placment of the island, and the ship could have been drug there, and that explains alot of other things, but now that the hatch went down is the magnetism gone. I agree witht the theory that the islands local was protected by magnetism, which kept it off radar.

  119. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2865″]history people… no slave ships ever sailed east towards australia or india… or anywhere near there… they only came to north and south america… not a slave ship![/quote]

    yea but they were by central america
    (and enter the numbers on a map and youll get were they really are)

  120. amanda says:

    besides… to state the obvious, pam aka desmond’s love is really kylie minogue.. aussie soap opera actress and “locomotion” singer… guess that dates me to the 80″s

  121. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2866″][quote comment=”2860″]Think on this…

    Darhma folks have only been involved with the island for maby 30 years at best. The “Black Rock” was a slave ship (circa early 1800’s maybe?). It is in the middle of the freakin’ island. Slaves…lots of chains and metals on board. Could the magnetic pulse dragged it there?

    Just a reminder that it doesn’t all begin with the Darhma folks. They are just exploiting whatever is going on there.[/quote]

    Very True, there is OBVIOUSLY something with the magnetism and placment of the island, and the ship could have been drug there, and that explains alot of other things, but now that the hatch went down is the magnetism gone. I agree witht the theory that the islands local was protected by magnetism, which kept it off radar.[/quote]

    well maybe its something that deals with the center of the earts plate( b triangle pulling ships in)

  122. mik says:

    Desmond’s hatchmate, Calvin Inman, is a different dude from the John the Other. Although the two actors do look kinda similar, they’re not. As we saw, Inman had a fatal head-bonk anyway.

  123. Twiceborn says:

    Amanda it could have been a slave ship, or an imprisonment ship, ya never know :X but about the others hatch door, it looked like a rectangle, and there was nothing inside, supposedly the others kids are kept in thier hatch, how is this when its empty.Obviously its another part of the dharma initiaive, but what about the journals sent out? They are just laying there, and its close to the others, so obviouslt the others know about the experiments. What created the security system for the island? We havent seen it for a long time?

  124. AmyW says:

    does anyone remember vincent?

  125. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2871″]Desmond’s hatchmate, Calvin Inman, is a different dude from the John the Other. Although the two actors do look kinda similar, they’re not. As we saw, Inman had a fatal head-bonk anyway.[/quote]

    thats what i tried to say and even if he didnt die if osme one pulled a chain off your neck you would yell right

  126. amanda says:

    no way are they by central america…. it’s still not a concise movement by an even out of control plane… near hawaii maybe, not latin america

  127. jb says:

    I Hate MichAel that two timing punk.. hes going to get whats coming to him .. im telling you kharma is bad .. but dharma kharma is way worse !!!

    my theory .. might sound a bit funny, but the four toed statue of a foot, had four toes…. the only thing i could think off that has four toes and would be able to stand on two feet are the simpsons, but i dont know let me know what you think ?

    (hi jennifer)

  128. ET says:

    Probably the island has connection with Atlantis. Statue, might be hint for anxient civilazation.
    Anxient civilization has developed much devastating technology that current tech.
    So no surprise, there are EMF or maybe even more sophisticated tech in later episode.
    Just my 2 cent! :)

  129. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2873″]does anyone remember vincent?[/quote]

    i do the dog he was shown about 2 episodes ago when micheal was walking back to the camp site and he was stroking the dog

  130. Keys says:

    Slave ships weren’t supposed to be there. Plane from Nigeria shouldn’t have been there. Flight 815 pilot says “We’re thousands of miles off course”. Massive electromagnetic force seemingly out of nowhere.

    Do the math…A+B+C=WORM HOLE

    And conviently right here on planet Earth

  131. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2879″]Slave ships weren’t supposed to be there. Plane from Nigeria shouldn’t have been there. Flight 815 pilot says “We’re thousands of miles off course”. Massive electromagnetic force seemingly out of nowhere.

    Do the math…A+B+C=WORM HOLE

    And conviently right here on planet Earth[/quote]

    i hope

  132. amanda says:

    yes prison inamtes were sent to aussie… that’s a possibility, but most were male and would hyave had few descendants, still doesn’t explain electromagnetism of the island

  133. liam says:

    but really who knows when the next lost episode will air?

  134. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2871″]Desmond’s hatchmate, Calvin Inman, is a different dude from the John the Other. Although the two actors do look kinda similar, they’re not. As we saw, Inman had a fatal head-bonk anyway.[/quote]

    his name was Tom not john

  135. Glen says:

    The other told walt to follow a heading of 325. 325 Is almost a north west direction. I dont know what it might mean by maybe it will help

  136. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2885″]The other told walt to follow a heading of 325. 325 Is almost a north west direction. I dont know what it might mean by maybe it will help[/quote]

    u got a map?

  137. Amy says:

    [quote comment=”2879″] Flight 815 pilot says “We’re thousands of miles off course”.

    That’s why it could be the Bermuda Triangle!

  138. Glen says:

    [quote comment=”2886″][quote comment=”2885″]The other told walt to follow a heading of 325. 325 Is almost a north west direction. I dont know what it might mean by maybe it will help[/quote]

    u got a map?[/quote]
    no I just did a search on navigation and came up with that. East is 90 s is 180 etc…

  139. Keys says:

    And then there’s “Cerberus”…aka…The Smoke Monster…aka…The Island’s Security System

    Maybe THAT’s the alien that guards the worm hole. Only it knows good from bad and only good ones can use it.

  140. AmyW says:

    [quote comment=”2878″][quote comment=”2873″]does anyone remember vincent?[/quote]

    i do the dog he was shown about 2 episodes ago when micheal was walking back to the camp site and he was stroking the dog[/quote]

    thanks…I had a special moment

  141. Twiceborn says:

    Personally, I think the writers try to keep things logical, and realistic. I doubt they would go the sci fi route and bring in a worm hole. Its just more far fetched than they would go

  142. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2888″][quote comment=”2886″][quote comment=”2885″]The other told walt to follow a heading of 325. 325 Is almost a north west direction. I dont know what it might mean by maybe it will help[/quote]

    u got a map?[/quote]
    no I just did a search on navigation and came up with that. East is 90 s is 180 etc…[/quote]

    so were could they be going?

  143. Chris says:

    As bad as it was what michael did, I cant blame him.
    I know he and his son didnt have a good relationship before, but I have a son and if I was in Michael’s shoes, I would’ve done whatever it took to get him back.

  144. realtor190 says:

    [quote comment=”2883″]but really who knows when the next lost episode will air?[/quote]
    I would say some time in October or November

  145. amanda says:

    even the atlantis theory… ok basic evolution here… people have been around in human form for at least 85,000 yrs… with 5 toes, there are no skeletons with only 4…. i know a woman from my parent’s church who had 6 toes, as did her twin sister, but that is an anomolyk, not a civilization

  146. Keys says:

    Twiceborn – Far fetched??? Have you been watching the same show as I have?

  147. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2890″][quote comment=”2878″][quote comment=”2873″]does anyone remember vincent?[/quote]

    i do the dog he was shown about 2 episodes ago when micheal was walking back to the camp site and he was stroking the dog[/quote]

    thanks…I had a special moment[/quote]

    by any chanse do you know when the next lost episode airs cause it didnt show any thing it just said thank you for watching “ABC”

  148. Twiceborn says:

    as far as this wormhole nonsense, its just not logical, they proved tonight that there was really a reason for the button, aka, the people who where watching them really did have a reason to. BUT why were the journals sent out in the middle of nowhere?

  149. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2894″][quote comment=”2883″]but really who knows when the next lost episode will air?[/quote]
    I would say some time in October or November[/quote]

    o thank you

  150. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2897″][quote comment=”2890″][quote comment=”2878″][quote comment=”2873″]does anyone remember vincent?[/quote]

    i do the dog he was shown about 2 episodes ago when micheal was walking back to the camp site and he was stroking the dog[/quote]

    thanks…I had a special moment[/quote]

    by any chanse do you know when the next lost episode airs cause it didnt show any thing it just said thank you for watching “ABC”[/quote]

    nvm i got it from some one else

  151. Amy says:

    I’m with ya’ Keys!
    “Logical and realistic” Twiceborn?
    By the way, is “Twiceborn” your way of saying “born again” or am I way off?

  152. Twiceborn says:

    Keys, they made things a lil hard to beleive but they have never went full blown aliens, or wormholes. If things got to crazy and farfethced most people wouldnt like it. For the main fact that this show is all about things in the past affecting things in the future and everything tying in, where the hell would a wormhole fit? Its just NOT plausable!

  153. HT says:

    [quote comment=”2897″][quote comment=”2890″][quote comment=”2878″][quote comment=”2873″]does anyone remember vincent?[/quote]

    i do the dog he was shown about 2 episodes ago when micheal was walking back to the camp site and he was stroking the dog[/quote]

    thanks…I had a special moment[/quote]

    by any chanse do you know when the next lost episode airs cause it didnt show any thing it just said thank you for watching “ABC”[/quote]

    That was it for the season. You have to wait until next fall. Enjoy the long summer:(

  154. Keys says:

    The more I think about it, the plausible it seems. Darhma found out about it. Trying to develop a person that can use it. Widmore finds out about it. Wants it for his evil purposes. We already know from his actions he ain’t exactly a saint.

  155. amanda says:

    where did the polar bear come from? they still never explained that one from season 1

  156. AmyW says:

    Lost will start in September. They are going to show 7-8 episodes with no reruns and then going to pull the show to put a new drama in its time slot, and then bring the show back towards around March and run 8 more episodes with no reruns.

  157. Glen says:

    [quote comment=”2892″][quote comment=”2888″][quote comment=”2886″][quote comment=”2885″]The other told walt to follow a heading of 325. 325 Is almost a north west direction. I dont know what it might mean by maybe it will help[/quote]

    u got a map?[/quote]
    no I just did a search on navigation and came up with that. East is 90 s is 180 etc…[/quote]

    so were could they be going?[/quote]
    Well this is only speculation,
    but when you fly from Austrailia to LA you leave AusTrailia on the right. So depending on how long they were in flight befor the crash, they could be heading toward New Guiena or even Hawaii

  158. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2898″]as far as this wormhole nonsense, its just not logical, they proved tonight that there was really a reason for the button, aka, the people who where watching them really did have a reason to. BUT why were the journals sent out in the middle of nowhere?[/quote]

    maybe they got there job mixed up and they were suposed to call other people when this happend (and why didnt they right anything in the journal about the plane crash or were they dead and why was the plane going towards that island if the magnetic force didnt bring them in?)

  159. hen9000 says:

    Well I guess this is the monkey foot theory.

    I say the four toed foot is the front four toes of a monkey or ape paw.

  160. Twiceborn says:

    Yes Amy that is where my handle originated, but I have used that handle for a long time. Its just what I go by. I run a website about a bunch of funny videos that I and my friends make. Mostly lipsynching craziness.

    http://www.teh0thers.com

    Notice we are teh 0thers, not The Others :P

  161. ET says:

    hahaha Amanda, Like your explaination of “anomolyk, not a civilization”.
    The statue with 4 leg toe does not means the whole civilation is that, could be one of a famous person that time has 4 toes. :)

  162. AmyW says:

    [quote comment=”2897″][quote comment=”2890″][quote comment=”2878″][quote comment=”2873″]does anyone remember vincent?[/quote]

    i do the dog he was shown about 2 episodes ago when micheal was walking back to the camp site and he was stroking the dog[/quote]

    thanks…I had a special moment[/quote]

    by any chanse do you know when the next lost episode airs cause it didnt show any thing it just said thank you for watching “ABC”[/quote]

    this was the season finale

  163. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2906″]where did the polar bear come from? they still never explained that one from season 1[/quote]

    well that was just one of walts things that pulled in( rember the comic book)

  164. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2913″][quote comment=”2897″][quote comment=”2890″][quote comment=”2878″][quote comment=”2873″]does anyone remember vincent?[/quote]

    i do the dog he was shown about 2 episodes ago when micheal was walking back to the camp site and he was stroking the dog[/quote]

    thanks…I had a special moment[/quote]

    by any chanse do you know when the next lost episode airs cause it didnt show any thing it just said thank you for watching “ABC”[/quote]

    this was the season finale[/quote]

    no i new that i wanted to know when season 3 started

  165. mik says:

    So turning the failsafe key more than likely did wht to the big picture? And is the electromagnetic current just now completely unchecked, or completely gone?

  166. amanda says:

    monkeys are only found in the new world… as my profs said, new world monkeys, old world apes, so monkeys not a possibility

  167. Jennifer says:

    I don’t know if anyone has said this yet, but it is strange that Henry et al wanted Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley (by their real names, two of which are unknown to the Losties). How did they get these names if the plane crash was a fluke? I have no answers…only questions!

  168. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2916″]So turning the failsafe key more than likely did wht to the big picture? And is the electromagnetic current just now completely unchecked, or completely gone?[/quote]

    its probally gone (the two people called it in)(russian people)

  169. jb says:

    [quote comment=”2898″]as far as this wormhole nonsense, its just not logical, they proved tonight that there was really a reason for the button, aka, the people who where watching them really did have a reason to. BUT why were the journals sent out in the middle of nowhere?[/quote]

    i agree with keys you are way out of hand with your comments and should be banded from speaking again.. you are trying to manipulate us in thinking star trek-ish !! so hush !!!

  170. Twiceborn says:

    Iono Liam, it seemd that everything Dharma had them doing had a purpose, and that kinda screws up the purpose of the people writing the journals, why would they have them write and send em no where, and still WHAT IS UP WITH THE ()THERS HATCH?

  171. Glen says:

    If you smash a regular magnet it will loose it magnetism, thats a fact. High temperature will do the same.
    It is plausable that the explosion and heat from the explosion could have damaged whatever was the EMF force.

  172. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2919″][quote comment=”2916″]So turning the failsafe key more than likely did wht to the big picture? And is the electromagnetic current just now completely unchecked, or completely gone?[/quote]

    its probally gone (the two people called it in)(russian people)[/quote]

    They werent russian, they were speaking porteguese

  173. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2921″]Iono Liam, it seemd that everything Dharma had them doing had a purpose, and that kinda screws up the purpose of the people writing the journals, why would they have them write and send em no where, and still WHAT IS UP WITH THE ()THERS HATCH?[/quote]

    well maybe they were the test

  174. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2923″][quote comment=”2919″][quote comment=”2916″]So turning the failsafe key more than likely did wht to the big picture? And is the electromagnetic current just now completely unchecked, or completely gone?[/quote]

    its probally gone (the two people called it in)(russian people)[/quote]

    They werent russian, they were speaking porteguese[/quote]

    o i thought it was russian my fault

  175. Glen says:

    If you smash a regular magnet it will loose it magnetism, thats a fact. High temperature will do the same.
    It is plausable that the explosion and heat from the explosion could have damaged whatever was the EMF force.

  176. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2926″]If you smash a regular magnet it will loose it magnetism, thats a fact. High temperature will do the same.
    It is plausable that the explosion and heat from the explosion could have damaged whatever was the EMF force.[/quote]

    what about when that thing blew up in side the hatch and they didnt know how to fix it

  177. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2918″]I don’t know if anyone has said this yet, but it is strange that Henry et al wanted Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley (by their real names, two of which are unknown to the Losties). How did they get these names if the plane crash was a fluke? I have no answers…only questions![/quote]

    The Losties did know thier real names, it came up several times throughout the series, but the question is how did the others know about it?

  178. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2928″][quote comment=”2918″]I don’t know if anyone has said this yet, but it is strange that Henry et al wanted Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley (by their real names, two of which are unknown to the Losties). How did they get these names if the plane crash was a fluke? I have no answers…only questions![/quote]

    The Losties did know thier real names, it came up several times throughout the series, but the question is how did the others know about it?[/quote]

    well it was a plane crash right what happend if the planes name list fell into there hands and what happend to those kids?

  179. Glen says:

    [quote comment=”2927″][quote comment=”2926″]If you smash a regular magnet it will loose it magnetism, thats a fact. High temperature will do the same.
    It is plausable that the explosion and heat from the explosion could have damaged whatever was the EMF force.[/quote]

    what about when that thing blew up in side the hatch and they didnt know how to fix it[/quote]
    I dont know what your refering to, but when eko lit the TNT that may have been enough of a blast to do the trick. I know this happens in the real world, but who knows where there going with it

  180. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2929″][quote comment=”2928″][quote comment=”2918″]I don’t know if anyone has said this yet, but it is strange that Henry et al wanted Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley (by their real names, two of which are unknown to the Losties). How did they get these names if the plane crash was a fluke? I have no answers…only questions![/quote]

    The Losties did know thier real names, it came up several times throughout the series, but the question is how did the others know about it?[/quote]

    well it was a plane crash right what happend if the planes name list fell into there hands and what happend to those kids?[/quote]

    The Losties had the list of people on the plane, remember thats how they discovered the first (theothers) spy?

  181. Keys says:

    Amanda – RE: Polar Bears

    Walt was reading a comic book with …yup polar bears in it right before it showed up.

    Hidden map says something about zoology section. Darhma video on web site showed plar bears fighting during Dr. Left’s explanation of Darhma’s work.

    Maybe they were brought there by Darhma for experiments and got loose during the incident and roamed freely.

  182. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2931″][quote comment=”2929″][quote comment=”2928″][quote comment=”2918″]I don’t know if anyone has said this yet, but it is strange that Henry et al wanted Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley (by their real names, two of which are unknown to the Losties). How did they get these names if the plane crash was a fluke? I have no answers…only questions![/quote]

    The Losties did know thier real names, it came up several times throughout the series, but the question is how did the others know about it?[/quote]

    well it was a plane crash right what happend if the planes name list fell into there hands and what happend to those kids?[/quote]

    The Losties had the list of people on the plane, remember thats how they discovered the first (theothers) spy?[/quote]

    so that how they found the names of the other surviors but what happend to those kids they took

  183. Amy says:

    Twiceborn, totally off-topic I know, but have you left your “roots”?

  184. mike (not stupid mike) says:

    recap is finally over, can’t wait….[quote comment=”2815″]also, 325 on the compass…someone who knows something about navigating should decipher that one…are they in the B. Triangle?[/quote]

    not burmuda at all. 180 is south. 360 is north. 325 would be something like northwest.

    desmond thought sailing due west would put him in fiji. he has every reason to know where they should be.

    why does everyone think those guys in the winter science station are russians? they were most definately not speaking russian.

    libby must be an agent of the dharma project.

    did that statue remind anyone of LOTR?

  185. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2934″]Twiceborn, totally off-topic I know, but have you left your “roots”?[/quote]

    So very nice of you to ask. No I havent but I have expanded my theories and I have changed and formed diff opinions. So in a sense yes but technically no.

  186. liam says:

    does anyone here know what happend to the other kids that were kidnapped and why did the french girls daughter not come back?

  187. realtor190 says:

    Ok, who is a little confused as to why no one shot Michael when he told them he shot Anna and Libby. It IS a good thing, Hurley didn’t have a gun.

  188. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2935″]recap is finally over, can’t wait….[quote comment=”2815″]also, 325 on the compass…someone who knows something about navigating should decipher that one…are they in the B. Triangle?[/quote]

    not burmuda at all. 180 is south. 360 is north. 325 would be something like northwest.

    desmond thought sailing due west would put him in fiji. he has every reason to know where they should be.

    why does everyone think those guys in the winter science station are russians? they were most definately not speaking russian.

    libby must be an agent of the dharma project.

    did that statue remind anyone of LOTR?[/quote]

    i guess it did remind me but how would she be a angent if she was in a aslum with hurly

  189. Glen says:

    [quote comment=”2935″]recap is finally over, can’t wait….[quote comment=”2815″]also, 325 on the compass…someone who knows something about navigating should decipher that one…are they in the B. Triangle?[/quote]

    not burmuda at all. 180 is south. 360 is north. 325 would be something like northwest.

    desmond thought sailing due west would put him in fiji. he has every reason to know where they should be.

    why does everyone think those guys in the winter science station are russians? they were most definately not speaking russian.

    libby must be an agent of the dharma project.

    did that statue remind anyone of LOTR?[/quote]
    Im sorry but what is LOTR

  190. Amy says:

    Twiceborn, hmm, that’s interesting. CAn we discuss through email or somewhere else at another time?

  191. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2940″][quote comment=”2935″]recap is finally over, can’t wait….[quote comment=”2815″]also, 325 on the compass…someone who knows something about navigating should decipher that one…are they in the B. Triangle?[/quote]

    not burmuda at all. 180 is south. 360 is north. 325 would be something like northwest.

    desmond thought sailing due west would put him in fiji. he has every reason to know where they should be.

    why does everyone think those guys in the winter science station are russians? they were most definately not speaking russian.

    libby must be an agent of the dharma project.

    did that statue remind anyone of LOTR?[/quote]
    Im sorry but what is LOTR[/quote]

    I hope your kidding!!!! Lord of the rings??The Best flippin book ever written!

  192. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2942″][quote comment=”2940″][quote comment=”2935″]recap is finally over, can’t wait….[quote comment=”2815″]also, 325 on the compass…someone who knows something about navigating should decipher that one…are they in the B. Triangle?[/quote]

    not burmuda at all. 180 is south. 360 is north. 325 would be something like northwest.

    desmond thought sailing due west would put him in fiji. he has every reason to know where they should be.

    why does everyone think those guys in the winter science station are russians? they were most definately not speaking russian.

    libby must be an agent of the dharma project.

    did that statue remind anyone of LOTR?[/quote]
    Im sorry but what is LOTR[/quote]

    I hope your kidding!!!! Lord of the rings??The Best flippin book ever written![/quote]

    o i love LOTR

  193. Glen says:

    [quote comment=”2942″][quote comment=”2940″][quote comment=”2935″]recap is finally over, can’t wait….[quote comment=”2815″]also, 325 on the compass…someone who knows something about navigating should decipher that one…are they in the B. Triangle?[/quote]

    not burmuda at all. 180 is south. 360 is north. 325 would be something like northwest.

    desmond thought sailing due west would put him in fiji. he has every reason to know where they should be.

    why does everyone think those guys in the winter science station are russians? they were most definately not speaking russian.

    libby must be an agent of the dharma project.

    did that statue remind anyone of LOTR?[/quote]
    Im sorry but what is LOTR[/quote]

    I hope your kidding!!!! Lord of the rings??The Best flippin book ever written![/quote]
    Yeah, Good MOVIE ;)

  194. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2941″]Twiceborn, hmm, that’s interesting. CAn we discuss through email or somewhere else at another time?[/quote]

    Sure, goto my website and goto contacts page, I have my email posted, and as for my yahoo, anyone is welcome to chat with me on there.

    twiceborn_poet

  195. eastcoaster says:

    [quote comment=”2772″]I KNOW I’ve seen that name Widmore before. Where the heck was it?[/quote]
    Did you read Bad Twin??

  196. liam says:

    does anyone here know why libby was with hurly in that asilum(i cant say that word for a loony place sorry)

  197. Keys says:

    Here’s my final theory…

    Colonel Mustard did it in the conservatory with the candlestick

  198. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2948″]Here’s my final theory…

    Colonel Mustard did it in the conservatory with the candlestick[/quote]

    whos colonel mustard?

  199. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2948″]Here’s my final theory…

    Colonel Mustard did it in the conservatory with the candlestick[/quote]

    all to true my friend, but I stick by the theory that Jimmy Hoffa is the evil owner of the dharma initiative, and that the island the losties are in is in fact Gilligans Island.

  200. Keys says:

    It’s a joke. A reference to the game Clue.

  201. hen9000 says:

    Libby was just playing crazy to spy on hurly or maybe just to keep an eye on the nutty numbers guy.

  202. Glen says:

    [quote comment=”2950″][quote comment=”2948″]Here’s my final theory…

    Colonel Mustard did it in the conservatory with the candlestick[/quote]

    all to true my friend, but I stick by the theory that Jimmy Hoffa is the evil owner of the dharma initiative, and that the island the losties are in is in fact Gilligans Island.[/quote]
    I think Elvis is a silent partner

  203. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2949″][quote comment=”2948″]Here’s my final theory…

    Colonel Mustard did it in the conservatory with the candlestick[/quote]

    whos colonel mustard?[/quote]

    From the board game CLUE

  204. Keys says:

    Jimmy Hoffa did it in the hatch with the elcetromagnetic alien phaser?

  205. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2952″]Libby was just playing crazy to spy on hurly or maybe just to keep an eye on the nutty numbers guy.[/quote]

    but maybe the nutty number guy was a agent too and just went sico on the island so they made up something for him to live on?

  206. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2954″][quote comment=”2949″][quote comment=”2948″]Here’s my final theory…

    Colonel Mustard did it in the conservatory with the candlestick[/quote]

    whos colonel mustard?[/quote]

    From the board game CLUE[/quote]

    o hahaha i see

  207. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2953″][quote comment=”2950″][quote comment=”2948″]Here’s my final theory…

    Colonel Mustard did it in the conservatory with the candlestick[/quote]

    all to true my friend, but I stick by the theory that Jimmy Hoffa is the evil owner of the dharma initiative, and that the island the losties are in is in fact Gilligans Island.[/quote]
    I think Elvis is a silent partner[/quote]

    Ohh yeah, Elvis was in on it, as was Richard Nixon in the watergate scandel and George Bush is in on it to, if u look in the hatch there is a portrait of him :P

  208. Glen says:

    Actually,
    The good Docs father wakes up from a drunken stupor. He has dreamt all of this, and now has decided to change his ways.
    All live happily ever after.

  209. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2955″]Jimmy Hoffa did it in the hatch with the elcetromagnetic alien phaser?[/quote]

    Wrong he did it with the WORMHOLE :))

  210. liam says:

    does anyone here know what happend to jacks dad?

  211. Glen says:

    [quote comment=”2961″]does anyone here know what happend to jacks dad?[/quote]
    Dead

  212. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2962″][quote comment=”2961″]does anyone here know what happend to jacks dad?[/quote]
    Dead[/quote]

    no i know that but i mean he wasnt in the casket right?

  213. liam says:

    and whats the deal with that clue lady

  214. Keys says:

    [quote comment=”2956″][quote comment=”2952″]Libby was just playing crazy to spy on hurly or maybe just to keep an eye on the nutty numbers guy.[/quote]

    but maybe the nutty number guy was a agent too and just went sico on the island so they made up something for him to live on?[/quote]

    Hmmmm. Good thought conspiracy theory-wise.

  215. AmyW says:

    jacks dad died, was in coffin in plane

  216. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2966″]jacks dad died, was in coffin in plane[/quote]

    no i meen when jake opend the coffin he was gone and there was dolls every-were

  217. Keys says:

    [quote comment=”2963″][quote comment=”2962″][quote comment=”2961″]does anyone here know what happend to jacks dad?[/quote]
    Dead[/quote]

    no i know that but i mean he wasnt in the casket right?[/quote]

    Body most likely “lost” to the sea. Are you getting at something?

  218. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2968″][quote comment=”2963″][quote comment=”2962″][quote comment=”2961″]does anyone here know what happend to jacks dad?[/quote]
    Dead[/quote]

    no i know that but i mean he wasnt in the casket right?[/quote]

    Body most likely “lost” to the sea. Are you getting at something?[/quote]

    o thats true but with the dolls and everything

  219. Keys says:

    [quote comment=”2967″][quote comment=”2966″]jacks dad died, was in coffin in plane[/quote]

    no i meen when jake opend the coffin he was gone and there was dolls every-were[/quote]

    And Rousseau (sp?) has been leaving the dolls as traps

  220. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2968″][quote comment=”2963″][quote comment=”2962″][quote comment=”2961″]does anyone here know what happend to jacks dad?[/quote]
    Dead[/quote]

    no i know that but i mean he wasnt in the casket right?[/quote]

    Body most likely “lost” to the sea. Are you getting at something?[/quote]

    First we had time travel in this discussion, then wormholes, and other nonsensicalness, now we have zombies…..YAY when do the Ninjas and pirates come in, maybe tom is a Pirate and Henry is a Ninja?>

  221. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2971″][quote comment=”2968″][quote comment=”2963″][quote comment=”2962″][quote comment=”2961″]does anyone here know what happend to jacks dad?[/quote]
    Dead[/quote]

    no i know that but i mean he wasnt in the casket right?[/quote]

    Body most likely “lost” to the sea. Are you getting at something?[/quote]

    First we had time travel in this discussion, then wormholes, and other nonsensicalness, now we have zombies…..YAY when do the Ninjas and pirates come in, maybe tom is a Pirate and Henry is a Ninja?>[/quote]

    next seasion

  222. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2972″][quote comment=”2971″][quote comment=”2968″][quote comment=”2963″][quote comment=”2962″][quote comment=”2961″]does anyone here know what happend to jacks dad?[/quote]
    Dead[/quote]

    no i know that but i mean he wasnt in the casket right?[/quote]

    Body most likely “lost” to the sea. Are you getting at something?[/quote]

    First we had time travel in this discussion, then wormholes, and other nonsensicalness, now we have zombies…..YAY when do the Ninjas and pirates come in, maybe tom is a Pirate and Henry is a Ninja?>[/quote]

    next seasion[/quote]

    YAY

  223. Keys says:

    [quote comment=”2971″][quote comment=”2968″][quote comment=”2963″][quote comment=”2962″][quote comment=”2961″]does anyone here know what happend to jacks dad?[/quote]
    Dead[/quote]

    no i know that but i mean he wasnt in the casket right?[/quote]

    Body most likely “lost” to the sea. Are you getting at something?[/quote]

    First we had time travel in this discussion, then wormholes, and other nonsensicalness, now we have zombies…..YAY when do the Ninjas and pirates come in, maybe tom is a Pirate and Henry is a Ninja?>[/quote]

    If you don’t like what you read here, then why read here?

  224. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2973″][quote comment=”2972″][quote comment=”2971″][quote comment=”2968″][quote comment=”2963″][quote comment=”2962″][quote comment=”2961″]does anyone here know what happend to jacks dad?[/quote]
    Dead[/quote]

    no i know that but i mean he wasnt in the casket right?[/quote]

    Body most likely “lost” to the sea. Are you getting at something?[/quote]

    First we had time travel in this discussion, then wormholes, and other nonsensicalness, now we have zombies…..YAY when do the Ninjas and pirates come in, maybe tom is a Pirate and Henry is a Ninja?>[/quote]

    next seasion[/quote]

    YAY[/quote]

    lol

  225. hen9000 says:

    The honsos were experimenting on mixing ape and human dna. That is where ruso’s “ilness” came from. It jumped from ape to human. Before this illness the honso’s were working on a super ape-man thing and that is what the statue is depicting.

  226. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2958″][quote comment=”2953″][quote comment=”2950″][quote comment=”2948″]Here’s my final theory…

    Colonel Mustard did it in the conservatory with the candlestick[/quote]

    all to true my friend, but I stick by the theory that Jimmy Hoffa is the evil owner of the dharma initiative, and that the island the losties are in is in fact Gilligans Island.[/quote]
    I think Elvis is a silent partner[/quote]

    Ohh yeah, Elvis was in on it, as was Richard Nixon in the watergate scandel and George Bush is in on it to, if u look in the hatch there is a portrait of him :P[/quote]

    also Big Bird was in on it too..just thought I would add that!

  227. liam says:

    what is the ilness all about tho and how did it happen?

  228. realtor190 says:

    I honestly think the producers are making this up as they go along. Who knew LOST would be such a great hit. They may have had the first full season planned, but now? Time for some fancing writing.

    Ok guys and gals, have a great summer. See ya in the fall. Great website and great people.

  229. Twiceborn says:

    [quote comment=”2976″]The honsos were experimenting on mixing ape and human dna. That is where ruso’s “ilness” came from. It jumped from ape to human. Before this illness the honso’s were working on a super ape-man thing and that is what the statue is depicting.[/quote]

    ok why the F would they spend cash on a statue on an island they dont want anyone to see, if i saw a giant statue i would check it out for king kong or whatever, its obvious all the experiments ende a long time ago by the shape the pearl station was in, so maybe they screwed up (Dharma I mean) they did something wrong and now they are hiding it!

  230. Keys says:

    Illness has also been[quote comment=”2978″]what is the ilness all about tho and how did it happen?[/quote]

    During some experiments in Namibia or some African country they are in. Then they bought off WHO to hush it up.

  231. Twiceborn says:

    ok boys and girls, its time for me to play some WARCRAFT DOTA, I got college in the morn, so check out my site and leave me a message on the forums if u would, I am starting a LOST section soon.

    http://www.teh0thers.com

    and hit me up on yahoo messenger if anyone wants to chat

    twiceborn_poet

    Have fun all :D

  232. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2981″]Illness has also been[quote comment=”2978″]what is the ilness all about tho and how did it happen?[/quote]

    During some experiments in Namibia or some African country they are in. Then they bought off WHO to hush it up.[/quote]

    i just thought with the illness being pulled up why did calvin go outside with a big chemo suit on?

  233. Keys says:

    [quote comment=”2983″][quote comment=”2981″]Illness has also been[quote comment=”2978″]what is the ilness all about tho and how did it happen?[/quote]

    During some experiments in Namibia or some African country they are in. Then they bought off WHO to hush it up.[/quote]

    i just thought with the illness being pulled up why did calvin go outside with a big chemo suit on?[/quote]

    He took it off. Apparently whatever virus was there, doesn’t seem to be anymore.

  234. hen9000 says:

    If the island is cut off from the rest of the world. Then is could be that it took a different evolutional path resulting in a different type of human/ape one with four toes. This was long before the hard to find island was discovered by the honso’s. The statue is just a relic of this former civilization and depicts them. The statue was either distroyed in some war for control of the island or just colapsed due to age.

  235. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2985″]If the island is cut off from the rest of the world. Then is could be that it took a different evolutional path resulting in a different type of human/ape one with four toes. This was long before the hard to find island was discovered by the honso’s. The statue is just a relic of this former civilization and depicts them. The statue was either distroyed in some war for control of the island or just colapsed due to age.[/quote]

    well the island isnt cut off cause if it was how could they a. get power b. those people in snow know about it c. how could the plane have goten there d. how could they have meet other people there

  236. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2986″][quote comment=”2985″]If the island is cut off from the rest of the world. Then is could be that it took a different evolutional path resulting in a different type of human/ape one with four toes. This was long before the hard to find island was discovered by the honso’s. The statue is just a relic of this former civilization and depicts them. The statue was either distroyed in some war for control of the island or just colapsed due to age.[/quote]

    well the island isnt cut off cause if it was how could they a. get power b. those people in snow know about it c. how could the plane have goten there d. how could they have meet other people there[/quote]

    i forgot to add like desmond how would they rember each other

  237. hen9000 says:

    It being a remote island makes it cut off for one. I seems from what henry said that is is quite hard to get to. I think that like the galopagos islands back befor planes and boats an island can developed on it’s own evolutionary path cut off from the rest of the world. Like austrailia with marsupials.

  238. ET says:

    Still think that LOST has connection to the axcient Civilation (Ancient Mythology) …
    The whole island (region) could be the origin of some great civilization that Dharma found out, conducted experiment, half way cannot control the mystery power (tecnology), bail out, left all the facility with some even half way built.
    Gosh, I sounded like a crazy dude here, hehehehe …

  239. Matt Phillips says:

    I don’t know if anyone has commented on this already (I just can’t read anymore silly posts), but the 2 guys at the end are not Russians…I am not sure WHERE they are at, but I do know for a fact that they are speaking Portuguese…seems to be from Portugal, but one of them could be from Brazil, I will have to watch again and listen to find out. I don’t know if that means anything though, but who knows with lost…nothing always seems to mean something important…or not…
    *confused as usual* :(

  240. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2988″]It being a remote island makes it cut off for one. I seems from what henry said that is is quite hard to get to. I think that like the galopagos islands back befor planes and boats an island can developed on it’s own evolutionary path cut off from the rest of the world. Like austrailia with marsupials.[/quote]

    but there was always someone living on those islands right that got fish from onther place and lots of other things from diffrent places

  241. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2989″]Still think that LOST has connection to the axcient Civilation (Ancient Mythology) …
    The whole island (region) could be the origin of some great civilization that Dharma found out, conducted experiment, half way cannot control the mystery power (tecnology), bail out, left all the facility with some even half way built.
    Gosh, I sounded like a crazy dude here, hehehehe …[/quote]

    well that foot does look greek right

  242. liam says:

    who else is on cause it dosent seem like alot of people are on

  243. chad says:

    Here’s a thought. Any chance the black lady with The Others can read minds? She knew what Kate was saying to Fake Beard guy even though her mouth was gagged. Perhaps she could “read” the minds of the Losties to get their real names? She also showed the most interest in Walt’s history, and could tell that Michael knew nuttin’. Just an idea…

  244. hen9000 says:

    Calvin taught sahid how to torture in a previous episode

  245. Matt Phillips says:

    [quote comment=”2994″]Here’s a thought. Any chance the black lady with The Others can read minds? She knew what Kate was saying to Fake Beard guy even though her mouth was gagged. Perhaps she could “read” the minds of the Losties to get their real names? She also showed the most interest in Walt’s history, and could tell that Michael knew nuttin’. Just an idea…[/quote]

    Seems kind of “out there”, besides they have known the names of everyone for a long time…wasn’t too hard to tell what Kate was saying

  246. mik says:

    Well, the whole ‘eternal love’ angle they put on Desmond and Pen really did it for me, I’m even more hooked now. I hope they didn’t kill him off, but if they did, Locke and Ecko are probably also dead.

    (Damnit Locke, you couldn’t just leave well enough alone could you?)

    All right, I’m out too, for the summer I guess. Its been fun lurking here all season. Rock on…

  247. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2994″]Here’s a thought. Any chance the black lady with The Others can read minds? She knew what Kate was saying to Fake Beard guy even though her mouth was gagged. Perhaps she could “read” the minds of the Losties to get their real names? She also showed the most interest in Walt’s history, and could tell that Michael knew nuttin’. Just an idea…[/quote]
    or she can read lips

  248. mike (not stupid mike) says:

    [quote comment=”2976″]The honsos were experimenting on mixing ape and human dna. That is where ruso’s “ilness” came from. It jumped from ape to human. Before this illness the honso’s were working on a super ape-man thing and that is what the statue is depicting.[/quote]

    is that what ate the pilot?

  249. liam says:

    [quote comment=”2999″][quote comment=”2976″]The honsos were experimenting on mixing ape and human dna. That is where ruso’s “ilness” came from. It jumped from ape to human. Before this illness the honso’s were working on a super ape-man thing and that is what the statue is depicting.[/quote]

    is that what ate the pilot?[/quote]

    i guess

  250. hen9000 says:

    They are so evolved the giant ape people are invisible now

  251. liam says:

    [quote comment=”3001″]They are so evolved the giant ape people are invisible now[/quote]

    no that invisble thing was really just eko’s brother’s spirt tryin to get revenge

  252. Matt Phillips says:

    they spoke portuguese at the end.

  253. mike (not stupid mike) says:

    [quote comment=”2995″]Calvin taught sahid how to torture in a previous episode[/quote]

    i did not catch that. nice.

  254. liam says:

    well im off if anyone wants to email me im murp9782@hotmail.com
    c yaa and good luck with the lost secrets

  255. Julie says:

    [quote comment=”2865″]history people… no slave ships ever sailed east towards australia or india… or anywhere near there… they only came to north and south america… not a slave ship![/quote]

    No, but Austraila was a penial colony. So slave ships didnt travel that way… INMATE ships did!

  256. Ginger says:

    [quote comment=”2848″]is the guy who took desmond off the beach the same guy who had the fake bread?and whats the name of that guy the one who took him off the beach.[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure those two guys are different. The guy he found Desmond on the beach was Syaid’s US military boss previously. Someone mentioned his name in a previous post. I think the fake-beard guy we have only seen 2-3 times.

    BTW, I have been leaning towards the Bermuda Triangle theory as well but of course, there are still too many unanswered questions.

  257. mike (not stupid mike) says:

    i am done for the evening. but one last thing:
    one thing that has bothered me for a long time is that mr. ekos plane (drugs) crashed here. they think they are in the south pacific, but there is no way that little plane could have made it that far. some light research suggests a range for a cessna (like) plane around 900 miles.

    so as far as location goes, we have the following clues aus, la, fiji should be due west, small single engine plane could reach the island.

    note if the plane was on its original and only tank of fuel they could be in the mediterainian sea, inian ocean (streach) atlantic ocean, definately not the pacific ocean tho.

    good night

  258. Ginger says:

    [quote comment=”2917″]monkeys are only found in the new world… as my profs said, new world monkeys, old world apes, so monkeys not a possibility[/quote]

    Sorry but I think this is incorrect. I work with old world monkeys: rhesus macaques. These are from China and India. New world monkeys are howler, capuchin (sp?) and some other marmosets found in central and south america.

  259. Matt Phillips says:

    They are in south america them.

  260. person mcdude says:

    So.. the hatch was to keep natural, unusually high levels of electromagnetic radiation in check? Now that the hatch has more or less lost its purpose, could the electromagnetic energy affect any of the flight passengers’ health? reverse all the “miracles”?

    http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Voltage/electromagnetic-effects.htm#general_health

    On another note, what is the explanation for all these weird coincidences that we kinda just have fun playing connect the dots with? “Libby” doing recon work on and rounding up each of the Losties, the theory mentioned above, sounds plausible, but how do you get all those people on the same plane?

    As for the statues (4toes), was anyone reminded of the Colossus of Rhodes, which was located in front of a harbor:

    No idea on why it’d have 4 toes. Could it be the remnants of some ancient people like Easter Island?

  261. BC says:

    [quote comment=”2812″]What was up with libby in the insane asylum several episode ago with hurley?
    Any theories??[/quote]
    I think that she may have gone crazy when her husband died. Maybe she was still in shock when she met desmond and it was a little later that she lost control.

  262. Matt Phillips says:

    I think she killed her husband.

  263. Joshman says:

    I know what inspired the writers to have “Our Mutual Friend” be the book that Desmond saves to read at the very end. It came from an interview with John Irving that was on NPR exactly two years ago today – May 24, 2004. John Irving (author of “Prayer for Owen Meaney” & “World Accoding to Garp”) stated that he had read all of Dicken’s works, but was saving “Our Mutual Friend” to read when he knew the end of his life was near. He was saving it to know that there was one truly great work of literature that was waiting for him to read. Exactly what Desmond said about the exact same book! Don’t believe me? check out:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1905390

    Click on the link to listen to the program. His comment about “Our Mutual Friend” is near the end. I’m patting myself on the back from remembering this – and I guess the Lost writers listen to NPR.

  264. manny says:

    they’re not russian – they were speaking portugese

  265. shawn says:

    This is no deep thought but I thought it was hilarious so I have to share. If you DVR-ed the show, go to the original scene on the dock near the end of the show. Jack, Kate and gang are gagged and on their knees. There’s a woman standing behind Kate and at one point she reaches under Kate’s arms to help her up. When she reaches she accidentally grabs Kate’s chest. You can tell the actress did not mean to because she immediately moved her hands as soon as she realized what she had done. I kept rewinding to see the facial expression of Kate or the other actress but you can’t get a good shot. I was surprised they didn’t reshoot this scene. If you’re bored, check it out…it’s pretty funny.

  266. rhodes says:

    the foot reminded me of the Colossus of Rhodes, you can do an image search. it is a wonder of the ancient world.

  267. Shawn says:

    [quote comment=”2848″]is the guy who took desmond off the beach the same guy who had the fake bread?and whats the name of that guy the one who took him off the beach.[/quote]

    The guy in the hatch with Desmond is an actor named Clancy Brown – the guy who took off his beard was another actor. I don’t know his name. That’s the only damn question here I can answer with knowledge.

  268. Shawn says:

    [quote comment=”2937″]does anyone here know what happend to the other kids that were kidnapped and why did the french girls daughter not come back?[/quote]

    The French woman’s daughter is with the others. She’s the brown haired girl with the brown eyes.

    [quote comment=”2848″]is the guy who took desmond off the beach the same guy who had the fake bread?and whats the name of that guy the one who took him off the beach.[/quote]

    The guy in the hatch with Desmond is an actor named Clancy Brown – the guy who took off his beard was another actor. I don’t know his name. That’s the only damn question here I can answer with knowledge.

  269. stella says:

    More food for thought guys:

    Henry WANTED Locke to stop pressing the button. That’s why he set up the situation in which Locke found the invisible map. And that’s why Henry wasn’t alarmed by the EMT blast–he knew his plann had worked.

    Somebody asked about Danielle’s daughter. Remember Danielle’s been there 16 years…Her daughter is one of the Others now and she’d the one who helped Claire escape.

    Didn’t you find it odd how Charlie was behaving when he returned to the beach? After what had just happened to him and Desmond/Locke/Eko in the hatch? Wouldn’t you be talking to anyone who would listen? Wouldnlt you be trying to get help? How did he escape the hatch? He was still down there when the EMT event ocurred, right? WHAT’S UP WITH CHARLIE?

    Did anyone notice the similarity between Inmand and Desmond and the two Russian/Brazian/Portogues guys? Both their situations were very much alike and they even said the same line to each other: “What did one snowman say to the other snowman?”…

  270. GuamAfro says:

    Was bored and tired and started looking for statues and found one that looks very similar…

    check:http://ce.eng.usf.edu/pharos/wonders/Gallery/colossus_color.jpg

  271. LostinLost says:

    When I googled “4 toes” I found a reference to a book called “headlong hall” by thomas love peacock. Here is the excerpt that mentions it:

    “The place is quite a wilderness,” said Squire Headlong: “for, during the latter part of my father’s life, while I was finishing my education, he troubled himself about nothing but the cellar, and suffered everything else to go to rack and ruin. A mere wilderness, as you see, even now in December; but in summer a complete nursery of briers, a forest of thistles, a plantation of nettles, without any live stock but goats, that have eaten up all the bark of the trees. Here you see is the pedestal of a statue, with only half a leg and four toes remaining: there were many here once.”

  272. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”3027″]When I googled “4 toes” I found a reference to a book called “headlong hall” by thomas love peacock. Here is the excerpt that mentions it:

    “The place is quite a wilderness,” said Squire Headlong: “for, during the latter part of my father’s life, while I was finishing my education, he troubled himself about nothing but the cellar, and suffered everything else to go to rack and ruin. A mere wilderness, as you see, even now in December; but in summer a complete nursery of briers, a forest of thistles, a plantation of nettles, without any live stock but goats, that have eaten up all the bark of the trees. Here you see is the pedestal of a statue, with only half a leg and four toes remaining: there were many here once.”[/quote]

    Wow! Great find!

    “There were many here once.” If you do draw a major connection between Lost and “Headlong Hall”, that’s a very intriquing sentence…

  273. kawillia says:

    [quote comment=”2771″]Charles Widmmore is the lady at the end of the shows father. She is Desmond’s old girlfriend and Charles didnt want Desmond around his daughter. He tried to buy Desmond off early in the show that you missed.
    (And leave his daughter alone)[/quote]

    Charles Widmore runs Widmore laboratories ( look it up on the net particularly ; http://www.widmoregroup.com/
    http://www.widmorelaboratories.com/) Widmore Laboratories is VERY closely linked with Dharma.
    Penelope is his Daughter.
    Desmond is the estranged boyfriend who was forced to crash on the island so that :

    a) he didn’t go near Whidmore
    b) he would be out of the way
    c) he would be punished for disobeying Charles Widmore’s instructions to leave his daughter alone.

  274. Matt says:

    Anyone play with the new website yet? If you view all of the jobs, some of the letters are greyed a little. All together (from what I could find) it makes out “nlutmIemAya” I have no idea what this means, however.

  275. Steve says:

    Locke’s dad is on the Widmore Group Board of Directors… http://www.widmoregroup.com/corporate.htm Awesome.

  276. Matt says:

    whoops, seems I missed a few. The grey letters make out “nslutmIemAya”

  277. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”2833″]Ok, the tubes were going into a big pile. No one was reading them. No one was watching “them”…in the hatch.
    Did not-pushing-the-button, really bring the plane down?
    Did the hatch blow-up… we did see the hatch door land on the beach.
    Did not-pushing-the-button THIS time bring down ANOTHER plane?
    Was the bright light and loud noise a force field going down; that was hiding the island?

    Where IS Jimmy Hoffa?[/quote]

    I always thought that the tubes would lead nowhere, and the real people being monitored were the Pearl workers. That’s why they had a camera pointed at them.

  278. nissawissa says:

    Okay..in response to Mike..What the heck are you talking about dude? Who the heck is PAM? If you’re talking about Jack’s wife that left him, that’s Sarah…and they are two totally different women.

    ARE YOU PEOPLE BLIND??

    jESUS… YOU DIDNT EVEN MAKE THE BIG CONNECTION. DID YOU SEE desmond show up at the track. did you see who pulled up behind them? umm, ya that was jack. from when they met in season 1.

    Oh, since you don’t remember season 1. Let me rewind you. Did you remember how jack performed surgery on a girl? She had a fiance that left her and then she fell in love with Jack. Through many episodes later we found out that she eventually left Jack and we never knew why?

    Well that’s b/c she found good old desmond at the race track. PAM is jack’s ex-fiance and desmond’s long lost love. PAM has lost both Jack and Desmond from ‘mysterious’ disappearances and is now on the hunt for the island. How does she know there is an island?? well duh, he freakin father is running the show.

    Now the others? and then being the ‘good guys’ and what exactly they do. im open to a number of theories.

  279. Melanie says:

    Perhaps its the lost city of Atlantis? Greenland and Iceland, named to confuse people, maybe Atlantis is in the Pacific?

    There were more than one person dragging Desmond off the beach, but they only had one person stay with him. Part of the others?

    I just hope they don’t jump the shark…

  280. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”2915″][quote comment=”2913″][quote comment=”2897″][quote comment=”2890″][quote comment=”2878″][quote comment=”2873″]does anyone remember vincent?[/quote]

    i do the dog he was shown about 2 episodes ago when micheal was walking back to the camp site and he was stroking the dog[/quote]

    thanks…I had a special moment[/quote]

    by any chanse do you know when the next lost episode airs cause it didnt show any thing it just said thank you for watching “ABC”[/quote]

    this was the season finale[/quote]

    no i new that i wanted to know when season 3 started[/quote]
    Seriously dude. Are you dense? It will start in the fall. No one knows when, not even ABC or the smoke monster.

    Relax a little. It will come back on.

  281. rasmus says:

    [quote comment=”3035″]whoops, seems I missed a few. The grey letters make out “nslutmIemAya”[/quote]

    spells
    Inmate Asylum

  282. mary ellen says:

    Just a thought…maybe the hatch door that Syhid opened just looked like there was nothing behind it…could have put up a fake wall. Maybe there are more people hiding behind it. Thought i was crazy with the whole “Elizabeth” and “Libby” thing, glad everyone else recognized her too. But still dying to know the connection with her at the Asylem with Hurley. And where is all of Desmond’s alcohol coming from??? OMG think he found a distillery!!! LOL

  283. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”3035″]whoops, seems I missed a few. The grey letters make out “nslutmIemAya”[/quote]

    Spells Inmate Asylum. The place Hurley and Libby were at.

  284. Doug says:

    The Washingpost.com website will discuss the LOST finale at 1 pm EST today.

  285. Dusty says:

    Fisrt of all – Not-Henry said that they were the good guys, meaning that someone would have to be the bad guys. Inman referred to the others as hostiles and he was part of the Dharma Initiative, so it would appear that the two groups are at odds and maybe Dharma are the bad guys. Also wasn’t their more than one person in a yellow suit when Des arrived from his crash.

  286. Eso says:

    just one big thing…

    Did anyone notice the two Russian/Portuguese guys… one of them looks extremely like Jack… in fact, I actually think it´s Jack.

    I´ll try to get a screencap of it

  287. prew says:

    The statue looked too preserved to be Ancient, the part that was there was perfect, the elements would have effected it if it were Ancient. May be that was all it ever was, perhaps Dharma made it just like that for the pure reason we are all discussing it now, to confuse.

  288. prew says:

    Also the black rock was possible a prison ship, Austrailia used to be the place to send prisoners back in the day. Has any considered that fact?

  289. Eso says:

    okay, here are screencaps:

    Doesnt this look like it’s Jack? Can’t believe noone noticed…

    full caps:

  290. prew says:

    [quote comment=”2918″]I don’t know if anyone has said this yet, but it is strange that Henry et al wanted Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley (by their real names, two of which are unknown to the Losties). How did they get these names if the plane crash was a fluke? I have no answers…only questions![/quote]

    the are the others and obviously have access to the outside world, they were probably sent a manifest of the plane and they have been spying on them. The hatch that was used for watching the Swan hatch, I am sure that the others have a similar set up to watch and have overheard any and all conversations that have occured in the hatch. If the hatches were “bugged” don’t you think tha maybe so is the beach?

  291. prew says:

    [quote comment=”2952″]Libby was just playing crazy to spy on hurly or maybe just to keep an eye on the nutty numbers guy.[/quote]
    Maybe Libbly went crazy after losing her husband, hitting on Desmond giving his her boat, then he disappears with her boat. That would sned me to the funny factory.

  292. Tasha says:

    Ok. I SWORE to myself I would never bring this up because I didn’t read this blog last year when my theories were in place. I had at one time looked up EVERYTHING on Ancient times and things such as the Mayan Calender. After last night’s episode I had to do a google to see if what I saw could POSSIBLY fit into this Island.

    I have always thought this show lied somewhere on the lines of The Lost Continents. Is it a myth or is it possible that there were in deed lands that were under water at one time…but how could electromagnetism tie into that?

    How could alot of things tie into that? If this was a Lost Continent or Island it could be the Lost Continent of mu which was believed to be in the Pacific Ocean in the area where this plane crashed…(because of where Fiji is located to the island)

    I wanted to share this article I found…

    Well let me start where I got the theory that this island had one time been under water….because of the Hatches and the big Black Rock. A boat on the island that apparently was under water at one time.

    After thinking about this island possibly rising…I looked up everything on ancient times. I even found at one time they believed EVERYONE had a series of numbers that built their genetics which came in strange ways and dreams. I had found so much but never posted anything. I had also seen the Mayan Calender in the first orientation video. This could also explain the STatues and ruins throughout the island.

    This article does not explain any of that. It just talks about magnetic poles on the earth and what was once believed. I also believed that the Nazis tied into this and parts of this article discuss that as well. Laso this article does not explain it all…but as I looked it all up last year, it was believed that if these continents ever rise…the rest of the earth would fall into the ocean. Could this have to do with the incident? They may have been trying to keep this from rising at one time and now something has gone wrong.
    Pay close attention to the subtitles
    KING OF THE WORLD
    Egyptian God of the Underworld..(yies to Persephone)
    Hallow Earth Theory..(Magnetic poles)

    and much more…..

    http://www.homestead.com/bodyreadings/files/Theoretical_Past.htm

    This is just a theory I wanted to share…Im sure someone has brought it up before, I just wanted to point it out.

  293. prew says:

    [quote comment=”2983″][quote comment=”2981″]Illness has also been[quote comment=”2978″]what is the ilness all about tho and how did it happen?[/quote]

    During some experiments in Namibia or some African country they are in. Then they bought off WHO to hush it up.[/quote]

    i just thought with the illness being pulled up why did calvin go outside with a big chemo suit on?[/quote]
    He was told that the place was infected,more Dharma control, realizing they lied he kept up the story so Desmond would stay and he could leave.

  294. Muffy says:

    [quote comment=”2757″]wow, what was with the russians?[/quote]

    My husband said it was Portuguese they were speaking. Anyone know what it was for sure?

  295. nicky says:

    [quote comment=”2791″]Did you remember how jack performed surgery on a girl? She had a fiance that left her and then she fell in love with Jack. Through many episodes later we found out that she eventually left Jack and we never knew why?

    Well that’s b/c she found good old desmond at the race track. PAM is jack’s ex-fiance and desmond’s long lost love.[/quote]

    Isn’t Desmond’s girlfriends name ‘Pen’, short for Penelope? I don’t think these are the same two women. Sorry.

    Nicky

  296. Tasha says:

    ALso in the article it talks about how they seperated people between good and evil….

  297. prew says:

    [quote comment=”2986″][quote comment=”2985″]If the island is cut off from the rest of the world. Then is could be that it took a different evolutional path resulting in a different type of human/ape one with four toes. This was long before the hard to find island was discovered by the honso’s. The statue is just a relic of this former civilization and depicts them. The statue was either distroyed in some war for control of the island or just colapsed due to age.[/quote]

    well the island isnt cut off cause if it was how could they a. get power b. those people in snow know about it c. how could the plane have goten there d. how could they have meet other people there[/quote]

    And lets not forget the supplies, they are manna from heaven,

  298. prew says:

    I it possible that the others are part of the Dharma experiment original guinea pigs and they have revolted?

  299. Tim S says:

    [quote comment=”2760″]Me says Charles Widmore is the runner of this whole thing. That would explain how Penny found out about Desmond, and why those Russian Antarctic guys were looking for the island.

    Holy crap, LOST is FOUND! Wooohhooooohooo.

    Ahem. Best cliffhangers (plural) EVAR. =P[/quote]

    Well, Charles might be, but I took the ending with the two Russians, as meaning that Penny had the two Russians monitoring Desmond’s boat. Jin must have tripped it on the boat while waiting for Syiad. Because one of the Russians said, “We found him”. And, they said that they could have missed seeing the alarm twice – meaning the first time when the man in the hatch with Desmond was repairing the boat – and now….

    Penny is not connected to the island…. Only looking for Desmond.

  300. Martigras says:

    I think the foot may be an allusion to the poem “Ozymandias” by Shelley. Its a poem about a man who goes to Egypt and finds a statue of an arrogant ruler, but only the feet remain of the statue. Its a commentary on what happens to human arrogance. It certainly ties in with the hieroglyphs and the other literary reference to Our Mutual Friend.

  301. dp says:

    [quote comment=”2820″]i believe that tonight show brought about many questions for us dedicated viewers. i am still a bit cuious to know why “elizabeth” ..libby was so willing to let desmond have her boat?? .. if i had a boat i would pawn it first before giving it away for free.

    anothee thought i had is how would Pen (desmonds lova’) know that desmond was stuck on an island with a huge magnet? i believe that her family produces the huge magnets for the hanso foundation and the ” chess players in the snow ” are the watchers to make sure that they dont break.. or they are trying to find a magnet that was stolen !!! ohhhhhhh ahhhhh ??

    also, sorry.. but the map that was painted on the door with detergent, was that real.. was the person that was with demond know about all the hatches ???

    and what did one snow man say to the other snow man ?

    (hi jennifer : ) )[/quote]

    do you smell carrots?

  302. dp says:

    [quote comment=”3019″]This is no deep thought but I thought it was hilarious so I have to share. If you DVR-ed the show, go to the original scene on the dock near the end of the show. Jack, Kate and gang are gagged and on their knees. There’s a woman standing behind Kate and at one point she reaches under Kate’s arms to help her up. When she reaches she accidentally grabs Kate’s chest. You can tell the actress did not mean to because she immediately moved her hands as soon as she realized what she had done. I kept rewinding to see the facial expression of Kate or the other actress but you can’t get a good shot. I was surprised they didn’t reshoot this scene. If you’re bored, check it out…it’s pretty funny.[/quote]

    Caught that … hilarious. Did you notice the look Jack gave Kate just before they were “bagged.” Jack had a plan and getting caught was part of it.

  303. Tasha says:

    Headlong Hall (a book)
    Korean Dragons
    and The Tiki Man

    All deal with statues with 4 toes.

  304. Tim S says:

    [quote comment=”2790″]So here are some thoughts:

    Walt – My theory – they had harvested some tissue from him (per hanso corp) …something to do with his psychic prowess…

    Maybe they want to harvest some tissue from the people captured

    Electromagnetic theory seems to be right on – and that was some sort of ultraviolet blast at the end…

    Electromagnetism is a component of string theory. And string theory is the concept of multiple alternate universes existing side by side….[/quote]

    Okay. I have a degree in Electromagnet engineering… An electromagnet pulse (no matter how strong – that is currently tested) would ‘pull’ the plane form the sky. Yes, it would play havoc on the electronics on board, but it would not rip it apart as the shown on the show – meaning that the plane broke into two pieces.

    Now, if you did create an electromagnet device that would tare a plane into pieces from the sky, it would in fact total incinerate everything in about a 50 mile radius form the initial firing spot. There’s no way to direct electromagnetic ‘pulse’ at a single target… It’s like a dome or shock wave effect…

  305. LostDamery says:

    I just want to know did the Mega Bird say Hurleys name? and when do we see king kong the smoking ape?

  306. graeme says:

    [quote comment=”2791″]ARE YOU PEOPLE BLIND??

    “Let me rewind you. Did you remember how jack performed surgery on a girl? She had a fiance that left her and then she fell in love with Jack. Through many episodes later we found out that she eventually left Jack and we never knew why?

    Well that’s b/c she found good old desmond at the race track. PAM is jack’s ex-fiance and desmond’s long lost love. PAM has lost both Jack and Desmond from ‘mysterious’ disappearances and is now on the hunt for the island. ”

    For someone so condescending you might remember that Jack performed surgery on his future wife THE SAME NIGHT that he met des while running. PAM can’t be jack’s future wife and surgery girl because she was still in the hospital.remember? Jack was running away from the demons of the promise he made to fix her and told des about it and des said to keep faith? You are so sure of yourself and yet so wrong…..

  307. lac says:

    any thoughts on Penny/Penelope Widemore actually being Persephone from the Hanso site? Maybe she’s trying to bring down her father’s corrupt practices.

    And good catch on Calvin being Sayid’s torture trainer!

    …and I cant decide if I pity or hate Michael.

    …and I really hope Desmond stick’s around for next season. His backstory was really interesting, particularly the connection with Widemore and “chance” run-in with Libby prior(?) to mental breakdown. Anyone trying to assemble a timeline to try and figure out if her coffee with Desmond was before or after her stay in the Asylum with Hurley?

    LOVE this show!

  308. doglover says:

    [quote comment=”2937″]does anyone here know what happend to the other kids that were kidnapped and why did the french girls daughter not come back?[/quote]

    I remember Danielle, the french woman, referred to her daughter as Alex. Last episode, there was a woman they called Alex with The Others group. Could be the same female Alex.

  309. RJ says:

    [quote comment=”3030″][quote comment=”2771″]Charles Widmmore is the lady at the end of the shows father. She is Desmond’s old girlfriend and Charles didnt want Desmond around his daughter. He tried to buy Desmond off early in the show that you missed.
    (And leave his daughter alone)[/quote]

    Charles Widmore runs Widmore laboratories ( look it up on the net particularly ; http://www.widmoregroup.com/
    http://www.widmorelaboratories.com/) Widmore Laboratories is VERY closely linked with Dharma.
    Penelope is his Daughter.
    Desmond is the estranged boyfriend who was forced to crash on the island so that :

    a) he didn’t go near Whidmore
    b) he would be out of the way
    c) he would be punished for disobeying Charles Widmore’s instructions to leave his daughter alone.[/quote]

    if you go to the website and click under corporate, you will see pics and names of people working with the company. some of names have pics some dont, and itsnt the last person the con artist–locks dad in teh show, and the guy before him has his pic also on the hanso foundation website.

  310. Brian says:

    [quote comment=”3071″][quote comment=”2790″]So here are some thoughts:

    Walt – My theory – they had harvested some tissue from him (per hanso corp) …something to do with his psychic prowess…

    Maybe they want to harvest some tissue from the people captured

    Electromagnetic theory seems to be right on – and that was some sort of ultraviolet blast at the end…

    Electromagnetism is a component of string theory. And string theory is the concept of multiple alternate universes existing side by side….[/quote]

    Okay. I have a degree in Electromagnet engineering… An electromagnet pulse (no matter how strong – that is currently tested) would ‘pull’ the plane form the sky. Yes, it would play havoc on the electronics on board, but it would not rip it apart as the shown on the show – meaning that the plane broke into two pieces.

    Now, if you did create an electromagnet device that would tare a plane into pieces from the sky, it would in fact total incinerate everything in about a 50 mile radius form the initial firing spot. There’s no way to direct electromagnetic ‘pulse’ at a single target… It’s like a dome or shock wave effect…[/quote]

    I have a degree in plane wrecks and usually everyone dies….its a tv show…

  311. Dusty says:

    [quote comment=”3066″][quote comment=”2760″]Me says Charles Widmore is the runner of this whole thing. That would explain how Penny found out about Desmond, and why those Russian Antarctic guys were looking for the island.

    Holy crap, LOST is FOUND! Wooohhooooohooo.

    Ahem. Best cliffhangers (plural) EVAR. =P[/quote]

    Well, Charles might be, but I took the ending with the two Russians, as meaning that Penny had the two Russians monitoring Desmond’s boat. Jin must have tripped it on the boat while waiting for Syiad. Because one of the Russians said, “We found him”. And, they said that they could have missed seeing the alarm twice – meaning the first time when the man in the hatch with Desmond was repairing the boat – and now….

    Penny is not connected to the island…. Only looking for Desmond.[/quote]

    The first time referred to by the Russians was when Des failed to entered the code in time, triggering the electromagnetic event. The fact that they knew to look for an electromagnetic event feeds into the idea that Witmore is a part of the Dharma thing.

  312. Chris says:

    [quote comment=”2817″]besides , jack went to run when he thought he had messed up the surgery, he thought she was gonna die, couldn’t have possily been the same chick[/quote]

    Jack married that girl after her surgery.. and he was running when he thought he killed her. so it cant be the same person. not seeing that big connection.

  313. Shell says:

    Why did we all assume Russian? Is portuguese that close to Russian in sound?

  314. Shell says:

    When was the Honso corporation mentioned in a Lost episode?

  315. Eso says:

    [quote comment=”3072″]I just want to know did the Mega Bird say Hurleys name? and when do we see king kong the smoking ape?[/quote]

    It did… played it back, and you can hear it 2 times

  316. Dusty says:

    Have the others actually killed anyone?

  317. Tasha says:

    [quote comment=”3084″]Have the others actually killed anyone?[/quote]

    No, I don’t think so…..They have only taken people. It’s not clear if they killed them. Is it possible the people they took from the Tailies….they set them fee like they are Walt? I honestly don’t think that is the end we will see of Walt and Micheal. I think they are being led to think they are being saved but I bet they end up right back on that island.

  318. Shell says:

    [quote comment=”3076″][quote comment=”2937″]does anyone here know what happend to the other kids that were kidnapped and why did the french girls daughter not come back?[/quote]

    I remember Danielle, the french woman, referred to her daughter as Alex. Last episode, there was a woman they called Alex with The Others group. Could be the same female Alex.[/quote]

    Alex helped Claire escape and then asked Michael about her and the baby when he was captured. I think she is definitely Danielle’s daughter.

  319. Shell says:

    [quote comment=”3085″][quote comment=”3084″]Have the others actually killed anyone?[/quote]

    No, I don’t think so…..They have only taken people. It’s not clear if they killed them. Is it possible the people they took from the Tailies….they set them fee like they are Walt? I honestly don’t think that is the end we will see of Walt and Micheal. I think they are being led to think they are being saved but I bet they end up right back on that island.[/quote]

    I think that it is an interesting idea that the Others are the good guys and our losties are being filtered out as to who is good (for example, Locke) and the bad (those characters that have killed in cold blood, Ana Lucia, Kate, Sawyer, etc.). What if the Others are really the ‘Good Guys’? Too bad Michele Rodrigues got in DUI trouble. I think that the Ana Lucia story would have gone further.

  320. rich says:

    yea the others killed someone. Rememeber that dude from the tail section who got his neck broken…

  321. Dusty says:

    I think that it is an interesting idea that the Others are the good guys and our losties are being filtered out as to who is good (for example, Locke) and the bad (those characters that have killed in cold blood, Ana Lucia, Kate, Sawyer, etc.). What if the Others are really the ‘Good Guys’? Too bad Michele Rodrigues got in DUI trouble. I think that the Ana Lucia story would have gone further.[/quote]

    About Kate and Sawyer killing in cold blood, does that make them bad? It seems the people on the others lists were the “good” ones. I may be mistaken though. Also, any idea who Jack’s dad’s daughter is? I guarantee it will be someone from the island (Kate, Claire, Libby, maybe).

  322. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”3082″]When was the Honso corporation mentioned in a Lost episode?[/quote]

    I’m pretty much positive that The Hanso Foundation has never been mentioned on the show. The only connection has been the commercials that air during Lost episodes. The commercials lead to the Dharma/Hanso connection. Etc.
    This summer is going to be very fun!

    [quote comment=”3084″]Have the others actually killed anyone?[/quote]

    We’ve never actually seem The Others kill anyone. The closest thing we’ve seen is Charlie hanging half-dead from a tree.

  323. goshira says:

    4 toed statue, orangutans have 4 long toes and an opposable thumb. would be hidden in back. Joop is an orangutan. joop is running the show. right turn clyde

  324. Tim S says:

    [quote comment=”2800″]um…okay, but why would an electromagnetic anomlys (sp) tell her and the Russians where Desmond was? In other words, what does an electromagnetic anything have to do with Desmond?[/quote]

    I think the ‘divice’ was on the sailboat. Jin and/or Son must have tripped it while waiting for Sayid to came back…..

  325. Saraj says:

    Did anyone watch Jimmy Kimmel last night? Hugh McIntyre was on, as Andreas said in an earlier post.

    It was a littly disappointing, as he was clearly on a set, supposedly live from Copenhagen.

    He mentioned Lost attaching itself to the Hanso Foundation, which they had nothing to do with in “real life”. It continues to blow my mind at how far they will go. This was was insisting that Hanso is a real company.

    Also, he mentioned a site savejoop.com. I don’t know if this was on purpose as part of the experience or not, but I visited it. It gives an email address for Hugh (hugh.mcintyre@thehansofoundation.org) so you can email him and complain about the way Joop is being treated (abused, treatments to keep him alive are cruel, etc.) I haven’t tried it yet, but I will. There is also a petition to sign.

    Check it out and see what you think. I don’t know that it would just be a weird coincidence that Hugh would mention it.

  326. Julie says:

    Okay this is a complete… out of nowhere theory… but I read yesterday that they are coming out with Lost Dolls…. one being Shannon. While I always liked Shannon (sadly enough she reminded me of myself) her backstory, other than her dad being the guy that crashed into Jacks (ex) wife, wasn’t that interesting so why would they make a doll of her?? As far as I can tell… most people didnt even like her character.
    Okay…. so.. what if everyone that has been killed off (on the island) comes back? I mean, stranger things have happened on this show. Polar Bears? Talking Birds? Boats on mountians? So.. maybe people can come back from the dead.
    It would explain Anna-Lucias story being ‘cut short’, having a ‘shannon’ doll made when she no longer on the show.
    Like I said, this is out of no where.. me just kinda rambling.

  327. Andreas L says:

    [quote comment=”2849″]Does anyone make anything of this???

    “Dharma” means “protection”. By practising Buddha’s teachings we protect ourself from suffering and problems. All the problems we experience during daily life originate in ignorance, and the method for eliminating ignorance is to practise Dharma.

    Practising Dharma is the supreme method for improving the quality of our human life. The quality of life depends not upon external development or material progress, but upon the inner development of peace and happiness. For example, in the past many Buddhists lived in poor and underdeveloped countries, but they were able to find pure, lasting happiness by practising what Buddha had taught.

    If we integrate Buddha’s teachings into our daily life, we will be able to solve all our inner problems and attain a truly peaceful mind. Without inner peace, outer peace is impossible. If we first establish peace within our minds by training in spiritual paths, outer peace will come naturally; but if we do not, world peace will never be achieved, no matter how many people campaign for it.[/quote]

    This is a show where everything is possible. It is built on religion and philosophy. Kelvin is right about his religious thoughts, Buddhism does have a part. Remember when Desmon tell’s Lock: Ignorance is bliss. ?, Face it. I love philosophy and so does the producers behind this very show. There are so much possibilities, and so much theories. You will always look for a answer, it is the question that drives us..

  328. SKC says:

    The plane came down in 2004 but Jack made a statement during the final episode that they had been on the island for one hundred (and some) days. Can anyone explain this?

  329. Jason says:

    Lost is a very exciting show but, their are alot of things that make sence, shocking thing is that the hatch was true , but the other hatch named ( Pearl ) was for nothing, but infact someone was in that hatch when the plain crashed, because someone wrote a journal about it, and it was left in the hatch… and i think Ana Lucia shouldnt have died because i found she was very important in the show, but infact Walt and Micheal wont be back… Walt is in school, and as u noticed he did not act in many shows this season… so they decided to elimenate them… the thing that is gay is that Sayid went to the ” Others ” home, and no1 was there, i think that sayid and Jin will turn the tables on the others because there still at there place . but honestly… i actualy think The Others are the good guys, because they only killed because it was nescessery, and Dannielles baby doesnt remember her cause she was taking when she was a baby… and what is that BIG LARGE FOOT with 4 toes…. it looks like another place like a hatch…

  330. Lucky charm says:

    1. Desmond said that he would have reached Fiji in one week. So, they are a week away from Fiji, supposedly.

    2. If the four toed foot IS ancient, the ship The Black Rock would kinda tie into that, since it looks like an old prisoner/inmate ship.

    3. If the electromagnetic force has been destroyed, will Locke and Rose become sick/paralyzed again?

    4. At the last part of the show, the portuguese guys were looking at that computer. It had a box popped up on it that said “Electromagnetic anomoly detected”

    5. There was a question about whether the Others have actually ever killed anyone. When Claire and Charlie were kidnapped, Ethan had hung Charlie and was dead. Jack brought him back to life.

    When Ana Lucia first put that supposed “other” in the pit they had dug, the real Other let him out, then snapped his neck.

  331. JG says:

    This is from the Widmore website as “news” from today. Any info on Hugh?

    2006.05.25 – The Widmore Group regrets to announce that Hugh McIntyre will no longer be serving on the Widmore Group Board of Directors effective immediately.

  332. Tim S says:

    [quote comment=”2922″]If you smash a regular magnet it will loose it magnetism, thats a fact. High temperature will do the same.
    It is plausable that the explosion and heat from the explosion could have damaged whatever was the EMF force.[/quote]

    If what you’re saying is true, then Lock, Echo & Desmond are dead. An explosion that would bust or intrfere with the EMF would have certainly kill whatever was in the far proximity of the blast – including everyone on the island – by the looks of the magnet in the hatch…

    I have a degree in electromagnetic engineering from Berkley. I know that this is only a show, but it seems to me that the writers (if they were going to use the EMF as a story line), they should have consulted a electromagnetic professional before using it in a TV show – to make it realistic and plausible……. There are too many holes in the story – and not worm holes…

  333. Dennis says:

    Has anyone ever wondered where, since this island is so remote, do the “Others” get fuel for their boat(s)?
    That was an internal combustion engine powered boat that 1) was used in the kidnapping of Walt and 2) was given control of to Michael so the ha and Walt could leave.

  334. Tim S says:

    [quote comment=”2952″]Libby was just playing crazy to spy on hurly or maybe just to keep an eye on the nutty numbers guy.[/quote]

    Let’s not for get where Hurly got the numbers in the first place… It was from a man in the Asylum. Remember that the man kept saying them over and over and over… So, there’s more people in that Asylum that’s connected to the island than they (the others) want us to think.

  335. Circe says:

    Ok, main theory involves incorporating the hanso site information with the TV show.

    1-the flash/violet sky was the natural rock with magnetic tendencies being destroyed – the destruction caused a reverse magnetic pulse throwing the hatch door – did the previous system failure at minimum contribute to the plane crash? most likely. the bermuda triangle is not the only location like this in the world. there are others. some theorize that the bermuda triangle is this way because of a magnetic pulse. a strong magnetic pulse would throw off the compass and cause the pilot to be unaware of his exact location – however i do not believe it was completely unintentional – remember the psychic is phoney – he only says what he is paid to say and he place claire on that specific flight – dharma wanted that specific plane to crash – the magnetic source would also explain why michael and walt wouldn’t be able to find their way back, but doesn’t explain how the compass would behave long enough for them to find their way to rescue (and what exactly defines rescue?) – destroying the magnetic pulse (at least temporarily) allowed the portuguese individuals to find the island or transmission, whatever they were searching for – most likely the transmission since if you remember, the individual in the alysium with hurley overheard a transmission – i think they tie in together

    2-the longevity project – is not-henry the missing alvar hanso? the hanso foundation has been on that island for at least 105 years (how old is joop?) whatever dharma is using to increase longevity (which happens to occur naturally on this island) also heals which is why locke can walk and others are healed/cured – perhaps it also explains somewhat the missing dead bodies, not that they were brought back to life, but that dharma wanted to experiment with their tissue – some of which may now be missing, missing organs – the longevity project may also explain why the children were taken, perhaps it works better on younger participants? or (and this i find highly unlikkely as dharma hasn’t seemed very moral to date) dharma finds it unethical to conduct experiements on the “good” ones, takes them, and sets them free?

    3-the illness is the mutant strain of menningococcal disease. So most likely the island is somewhat near Tanzia or there needs to be another method of transmission to Tanzia which is associated with Dharma.- the virus no longer exists on the island or is temporarily under control (depending on whether the writers decide to let it loose)

    4-the others are Dharma employees. be sure to visit hansocareers.com and view the job qualification. membership in any group such as the sierra club, peta, etc is an automatic disqualifier for one position. another position includes caring for the extremely mentally ill (yet also mentally gifted) patients..the answer as to who Tom and “D” are should eventually (if not already) be found on thehansofoundation.org site – perhaps libby was a plant here to determine if hurley belonged in the mentally ill yet mentally talented group – and to get Desmond on the island – libby indicated she’s a psychiatrist, there is an individual on the hanso site who claims he is a dr yet has no educational records, perhaps she is linked to him – fyi his name is tom, but i’m not sure the picture is of the same individual who was wearing the fake beard – if so remember he is nothing, but he is also alvar hanso’s heir apparent – meaning only alvar hanso is above him and not-henry is alvar

    5-why jack, kate, and sawyer. they are the only three losties left alive, with the exception of Michael, who have made the decision between life and death and have chosen death for someone else. kate and sawyer have both killed. jack is a doctor and has made the life/death decision in the past for his patients, as well as two mercy killings on the island

    6-the security sysstem, smoke monster, ties into dharma’s remote viewing project..i don’t think the monster killed the pilot – the pilot is the supposed writer of bad twin which the hanso foundation wants out of the way, i think dharma killed him using whatever means they had at their disposal

    7- walt is psychic and extremely intelligent. things happen around him, dharma wasn’t counting on those things – hence they got more than they bargained for

    8-joop is on the island – how many toes does an orangatan have? four? any statute of joop would be a statute commerating dharma’s success in the longevity project

  336. Sam says:

    [quote comment=”2791″]ARE YOU PEOPLE BLIND??
    Well that’s b/c she found good old desmond at the race track. PAM is jack’s ex-fiance and desmond’s long lost love. PAM has lost both Jack and Desmond from ‘mysterious’ disappearances and is now on the hunt for the island. How does she know there is an island?? well duh, he freakin father is running the show.
    [/quote]

    this can’t be true, because when jack was running the track, he did it to release steam because he wasn’t sure that the girl was ever going to have control of her legs. She didn’t start wiggling her toes until after he got back from his run, and therefore couldn’t have drove over and walked up to desmond.

  337. Jennifer says:

    [quote comment=”2994″]Here’s a thought. Any chance the black lady with The Others can read minds? She knew what Kate was saying to Fake Beard guy even though her mouth was gagged. Perhaps she could “read” the minds of the Losties to get their real names? She also showed the most interest in Walt’s history, and could tell that Michael knew nuttin’. Just an idea…[/quote]

    This idea makes sense to me…there is a definite mystic element to parts of the show and to Ms. Klugh’s relationship to Walt…and it does explain how the real (birth) names of Hurley and Sawyer were known.

  338. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”3101″]…2. If the four toed foot IS ancient, the ship The Black Rock would kinda tie into that, since it looks like an old prisoner/inmate ship….[/quote]

    The Black Rock also had a large amount of Dynamite and rolls of fuse wiring. Definitely not “ancient” materials, so I’m not one to believe that ship and the foot statue have any relation whatsoever.

    [quote comment=”3101″]…5. There was a question about whether the Others have actually ever killed anyone. When Claire and Charlie were kidnapped, Ethan had hung Charlie and was dead. Jack brought him back to life.
    When Ana Lucia first put that supposed “other” in the pit they had dug, the real Other let him out, then snapped his neck.[/quote]

    Ah yes, I had forgot about how Goodwin killed the Tailie.

  339. marcus says:

    Anybody noticed the buoy in the water just before Desmond got knocked unconscious in the storm? Some kind of force field generator/replicator?

  340. msm says:

    Some ideas related to four toes, pearl, the black smoke in the jungle and sparks/stars:
    Dragons, Snakes, and Pearls are symbols for human DNA,
    Fire representing soul sparks of light emanating from the flame of creation.

    Dragons are winged beings portrayed in the ancient mythologies of most cultures. They link with winged gods from the heavens who came to Earth to create the human race and are very important symbology in the creational blueprint of our reality.

    Korean Dragons have four toes.

  341. LostDamery says:

    I think the button is still a test and that someone is watching them all from somewhere off the island via the cable near the french womans old shack.
    Although with the computer and counter crushed it really doesnt matter if the button was real since Desmond let the Dam break and the monster is out of the cage…Season three is going to have lots of running and screaming.
    I am going to say that 4 toes is number on Mr. Hanso’s feet and teh statue was to be part of a ceremony that went horribly wrong and is why he is missing and the island is in disrepair.
    Will Hurley stop and talk to the bird on his way back?

  342. Jason says:

    I think that the Statue with the 4 toes, maybe is another hatch, or if u recorded the show, i dont know if im blind, but i kindda seen over 4 people walking on the side of the statue? maybe it’s another hatch? and Russeau said there was a watch tower on the island… isnt that far fecthed…. and i dont think the others are who they say they are, remember walt said Dad dont listen… they’re not who they say they are.. and Dee

  343. Julie says:

    [quote comment=”3106″]Ok, main theory involves incorporating the hanso site information with the TV show.

    1-the flash/violet sky was the natural rock with magnetic tendencies being destroyed – the destruction caused a reverse magnetic pulse throwing the hatch door – did the previous system failure at minimum contribute to the plane crash? most likely. the bermuda triangle is not the only location like this in the world. there are others. some theorize that the bermuda triangle is this way because of a magnetic pulse. a strong magnetic pulse would throw off the compass and cause the pilot to be unaware of his exact location – however i do not believe it was completely unintentional – remember the psychic is phoney – he only says what he is paid to say and he place claire on that specific flight – dharma wanted that specific plane to crash – the magnetic source would also explain why michael and walt wouldn’t be able to find their way back, but doesn’t explain how the compass would behave long enough for them to find their way to rescue (and what exactly defines rescue?) – destroying the magnetic pulse (at least temporarily) allowed the portuguese individuals to find the island or transmission, whatever they were searching for – most likely the transmission since if you remember, the individual in the alysium with hurley overheard a transmission – i think they tie in together

    2-the longevity project – is not-henry the missing alvar hanso? the hanso foundation has been on that island for at least 105 years (how old is joop?) whatever dharma is using to increase longevity (which happens to occur naturally on this island) also heals which is why locke can walk and others are healed/cured – perhaps it also explains somewhat the missing dead bodies, not that they were brought back to life, but that dharma wanted to experiment with their tissue – some of which may now be missing, missing organs – the longevity project may also explain why the children were taken, perhaps it works better on younger participants? or (and this i find highly unlikkely as dharma hasn’t seemed very moral to date) dharma finds it unethical to conduct experiements on the “good” ones, takes them, and sets them free?

    3-the illness is the mutant strain of menningococcal disease. So most likely the island is somewhat near Tanzia or there needs to be another method of transmission to Tanzia which is associated with Dharma.- the virus no longer exists on the island or is temporarily under control (depending on whether the writers decide to let it loose)

    4-the others are Dharma employees. be sure to visit hansocareers.com and view the job qualification. membership in any group such as the sierra club, peta, etc is an automatic disqualifier for one position. another position includes caring for the extremely mentally ill (yet also mentally gifted) patients..the answer as to who Tom and “D” are should eventually (if not already) be found on thehansofoundation.org site – perhaps libby was a plant here to determine if hurley belonged in the mentally ill yet mentally talented group – and to get Desmond on the island – libby indicated she’s a psychiatrist, there is an individual on the hanso site who claims he is a dr yet has no educational records, perhaps she is linked to him – fyi his name is tom, but i’m not sure the picture is of the same individual who was wearing the fake beard – if so remember he is nothing, but he is also alvar hanso’s heir apparent – meaning only alvar hanso is above him and not-henry is alvar

    5-why jack, kate, and sawyer. they are the only three losties left alive, with the exception of Michael, who have made the decision between life and death and have chosen death for someone else. kate and sawyer have both killed. jack is a doctor and has made the life/death decision in the past for his patients, as well as two mercy killings on the island

    6-the security sysstem, smoke monster, ties into dharma’s remote viewing project..i don’t think the monster killed the pilot – the pilot is the supposed writer of bad twin which the hanso foundation wants out of the way, i think dharma killed him using whatever means they had at their disposal

    7- walt is psychic and extremely intelligent. things happen around him, dharma wasn’t counting on those things – hence they got more than they bargained for

    8-joop is on the island – how many toes does an orangatan have? four? any statute of joop would be a statute commerating dharma’s success in the longevity project[/quote]

    The pilot is NOT supposed to be Gary Troupe. THe letter jacket of the book clearly states that he was a passenger on the plane… that he had fallen in love with one of the flight attendents on that flight named Cindi. Thus the reason he made the flight so many times…

  344. LostDamery says:

    [quote comment=”3114″]… and Russeau said there was a watch tower on the island… isnt that far fecthed….[/quote]
    I believe The French woman said there was a Radio tower near the BlackRock that was sending out the numbers and she changed it to her message in French.

  345. Jason says:

    said that he will go back in the hole if he says anything else

  346. Jason says:

    Did You Notice all the animals that we’ve seen on the island has been on Walts comic book?

  347. Jason says:

    [quote comment=”3116″][quote comment=”3114″]… and Russeau said there was a watch tower on the island… isnt that far fecthed….[/quote]
    I believe The French woman said there was a Radio tower near the BlackRock that was sending out the numbers and she changed it to her message in French.[/quote]
    oh yeah…. ty

  348. donyab says:

    [quote comment=”2806″]I think some people are on here are confusing what they saw, seriously though, what was with the big statue. Personally I think that whidmore was the one behind the Dharma Initiative, and that Henry doesnt want anyone on the island. Thats a fact so far. But there are other holes to be filled :D[/quote]

    I believe that Whidmore is not behind the Dharma Initiative. That’s The Hanso Foundation’s baby. However, that doesn’t mean that Whidmore is not involved, their name was on the pregnancy test that Sun took that was found in the plane wreckage. They could be investors or contractors supplying Hanso with medical supplies, etc. We’re all “LOST” here, but isn’t that the point!

  349. Jason says:

    [quote comment=”3119″][quote comment=”3116″][quote comment=”3114″]… and Russeau said there was a watch tower on the island… isnt that far fecthed….[/quote]
    I believe The French woman said there was a Radio tower near the BlackRock that was sending out the numbers and she changed it to her message in French.[/quote]
    oh yeah…. ty[/quote]
    btw whoouldnt they be able to call for help now since the force feild thing is gone?

  350. Julie says:

    [quote comment=”3117″]said that he will go back in the hole if he says anything else[/quote]

    No she asked him if he wanted to go back in the chair, I believe

  351. Karen says:

    OK- this ep was alomst too much to digest in one sitting… How about Libby being the girl who gave Desmond the sail boat- small world.
    Doesnt anyone else think it’s toally weird that when Charlie made it back to the beach and was chattin’ up Claire, he never mentioned that Eccko, Locke and Desmond could possibley be badly hurt, are missing, and maybe DEAD???Why isnt he getting his Posse together to look for them???
    I think we can assume that Sayid, Jin and Sun will have to rescue Jack, Kate, and Sawyer. Did you see the look on Sayid’s face when he realized no Others were at their huts where they were suppose to be???
    He knew he’d been duped!!
    This brings new meaning to the scenario of the rich daddy coming up with a plan to keep the poor, no-good boyfriend away from the helpless daughter!!! If this whole island thing is really an elaborate plan to keep Desmond from Penny, WOW…
    Looks like Henry Gale is the boss of things on the island, but, Penny’s Dad must be the head honcho behind the island, ya think???

  352. Shellbugg says:

    [quote comment=”2824″][quote comment=”2820″]i believe that tonight show brought about many questions for us dedicated viewers. i am still a bit cuious to know why “elizabeth” ..libby was so willing to let desmond have her boat?? .. if i had a boat i would pawn it first before giving it away for free.

    anothee thought i had is how would Pen (desmonds lova’) know that desmond was stuck on an island with a huge magnet? i believe that her family produces the huge magnets for the hanso foundation and the ” chess players in the snow ” are the watchers to make sure that they dont break.. or they are trying to find a magnet that was stolen !!! ohhhhhhh ahhhhh ??

    also, sorry.. but the map that was painted on the door with detergent, was that real.. was the person that was with demond know about all the hatches ???

    and what did one snow man say to the other snow man ?

    (hi jennifer : ) )[/quote]

    hey thats is kinda true but how is pam dad in the islands control and were wher all those kids taken too[/quote]
    Dude… who is Pam? Are you thinking of Penny?

  353. Karen says:

    And another thing…one thing’s for sure about Dharma/Karma—Michaels’ kharma is about as bad as it can get at this point. This character has hit an all time low…He had issues from the start, but now he’s a total bottom feeder.

  354. manny says:

    while electromagnetism does seem like a plausible explanation for the plane crash, we have to remember that the plane was already more than a thousand miles off course. and the ‘system failure’ only happened for a few seconds. i’m not sure it’s possible for the plane to have diverted so far from only a few seconds of strong electromagnetic forces.

  355. liam says:

    [quote comment=”3124″][quote comment=”2824″][quote comment=”2820″]i believe that tonight show brought about many questions for us dedicated viewers. i am still a bit cuious to know why “elizabeth” ..libby was so willing to let desmond have her boat?? .. if i had a boat i would pawn it first before giving it away for free.

    anothee thought i had is how would Pen (desmonds lova’) know that desmond was stuck on an island with a huge magnet? i believe that her family produces the huge magnets for the hanso foundation and the ” chess players in the snow ” are the watchers to make sure that they dont break.. or they are trying to find a magnet that was stolen !!! ohhhhhhh ahhhhh ??

    also, sorry.. but the map that was painted on the door with detergent, was that real.. was the person that was with demond know about all the hatches ???

    and what did one snow man say to the other snow man ?

    (hi jennifer : ) )[/quote]

    hey thats is kinda true but how is pam dad in the islands control and were wher all those kids taken too[/quote]
    Dude… who is Pam? Are you thinking of Penny?[/quote]

    yaa

  356. liam says:

    [quote comment=”3126″]while electromagnetism does seem like a plausible explanation for the plane crash, we have to remember that the plane was already more than a thousand miles off course. and the ‘system failure’ only happened for a few seconds. i’m not sure it’s possible for the plane to have diverted so far from only a few seconds of strong electromagnetic forces.[/quote]

    but it was so storng that it pulled it out of its course

  357. Steve says:

    If -Henry is the man in charge, and it seems pretty clear that he is (“Why aren’t you wearing your beard?”), doesn’t it seem like trading Walt for your leader is a fair trade? I wonder if -Henry got caught in the net on purpose, to infiltrate the Losties, and to create a scenario where they could capture Jack, etc…

  358. Shellbugg says:

    [quote comment=”2949″][quote comment=”2948″]Here’s my final theory…

    Colonel Mustard did it in the conservatory with the candlestick[/quote]

    whos colonel mustard?[/quote]
    Liam.. all your posts asks questions that no one knows. Stop asking them.. No one knows yet why Libby was in the asylum w/hurley, no one knows wehre the kids are… geez… we know as much as you do. This is almost all speculation… and if you want to know that, just read.

  359. Andreas says:

    A lot of things to discuss, but try to keep it more or less serious guys, The Lost Blog stands for quality so no “lol” posts thanks.

    I will probably have to write an entire post with all my thoughts but here is my idea on the Widmore/Desmond thing:

    Charles Widmore, Penny’s father, is deeply involved with the mysterious magnetic island. When Desmond refuses to leave his daughter alone, Widmore decides to dump Desmond on the island to keep him away from Penny.

    However, Penny finds out about the island and it’s magnetic properties through her father and hires the portuguese guys to find electromagnetic anomalys around the world or in a specific area so that she can track down the island (maybe it’s moving?) and find Desmond.

  360. paul says:

    they weren’t in the snow at the very end they were in a big ass balloon like the one they found earlier on the island

  361. Shellbugg says:

    Um… correct me if I’m wrong.. but Kelvin dint teach Sayid how to torture. Kelvin gave Sayid a box of “tools”.. but Sayid already knew how to torture..

    That was my understanding anyway

  362. Karen says:

    “Do you smell carrots???”

  363. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”3131″]…Charles Widmore, Penny’s father, is deeply involved with the mysterious magnetic island. When Desmond refuses to leave his daughter alone, Widmore decides to dump Desmond on the island to keep him away from Penny…[/quote]

    I’ve seen a number of people saying this, but maybe I’m missing something here…
    We know Widmore sponsored the race around the world. But how would he possibly know that Desmond would enter the race? How did he “dump” Desmond on the island? It’s not like he forced Desmond to enter the race…at least it doesn’t seem that way from the info we’ve gotten so far.
    All we know is that Desmond entered the race sponsored by Widmore with the objective of winning the money from Widmore and proving to him that he wasn’t a quitter.

  364. Tim S says:

    Let’s all not forget what happened in 1943 – they called it the “Philadelphia Experiment”……

  365. liam says:

    [quote comment=”3130″][quote comment=”2949″][quote comment=”2948″]Here’s my final theory…

    Colonel Mustard did it in the conservatory with the candlestick[/quote]

    whos colonel mustard?[/quote]
    Liam.. all your posts asks questions that no one knows. Stop asking them.. No one knows yet why Libby was in the asylum w/hurley, no one knows wehre the kids are… geez… we know as much as you do. This is almost all speculation… and if you want to know that, just read.[/quote]

    you know i posed that like at 12 pm last night when everyone ask questions

  366. graeme says:

    my friend sent me this link:

    check out this part specifically:
    “Human science has created the four toed Nebish, a palid, short lived and highly programmable humanoid who has had the elements that do not facilitate a Hive existence (aggression, curiosity, etc.) bred out of it. The five toed genotype is this world’s dinosaur, a messy, dangerous animal that is marginalized, cast out, and hunted down to keep it from competing with its four toed brethern in the Hive cities. The five toed wander the Wastes, the planetary surface given over to the biofarms that keep the trillions of Earth’s Nebish population in precarious balance with its dietary needs. The meat of Half Past Human’s narative is the conflict between the Hives and the roving bands of five toed original Humans, who are reduced to savagery and hunted like vermin by Hive Security. Something Strange is happening, as the primitive five toed are showing an organization and purpose whose goal is unclear and probably dangerous to the Hive status quo. There seems to be a Third Party stirring the pot, campaigning in a relentless and successful battle with the computer Minds that keep this Brave new world in balance. ”

    sounds a lot like lost huh?

  367. Andreas says:

    [quote comment=”3135″][quote comment=”3131″]…Charles Widmore, Penny’s father, is deeply involved with the mysterious magnetic island. When Desmond refuses to leave his daughter alone, Widmore decides to dump Desmond on the island to keep him away from Penny…[/quote]

    I’ve seen a number of people saying this, but maybe I’m missing something here…
    We know Widmore sponsored the race around the world. But how would he possibly know that Desmond would enter the race? How did he “dump” Desmond on the island? It’s not like he forced Desmond to enter the race…at least it doesn’t seem that way from the info we’ve gotten so far.
    All we know is that Desmond entered the race sponsored by Widmore with the objective of winning the money from Widmore and proving to him that he wasn’t a quitter.[/quote]

    Valid points Steve. That was the idea I got from the ending scene but I’m sure that the reality is more complex than anything we’ve managed to think of yet.

  368. manny says:

    has anyone found any references to the portuguese (i suppose they could be brazilian) in the snow? does the hanso website or the dharma initiative reference them at all?

  369. graeme says:

    oops! wrong link. this is the real one:

    http://www.strangewords.com/archive/half.html

    ““Human science has created the four toed Nebish, a palid, short lived and highly programmable humanoid who has had the elements that do not facilitate a Hive existence (aggression, curiosity, etc.) bred out of it. The five toed genotype is this world’s dinosaur, a messy, dangerous animal that is marginalized, cast out, and hunted down to keep it from competing with its four toed brethern in the Hive cities. The five toed wander the Wastes, the planetary surface given over to the biofarms that keep the trillions of Earth’s Nebish population in precarious balance with its dietary needs. The meat of Half Past Human’s narative is the conflict between the Hives and the roving bands of five toed original Humans, who are reduced to savagery and hunted like vermin by Hive Security. Something Strange is happening, as the primitive five toed are showing an organization and purpose whose goal is unclear and probably dangerous to the Hive status quo. There seems to be a Third Party stirring the pot, campaigning in a relentless and successful battle with the computer Minds that keep this Brave new world in balance. “”

  370. memyselfandmiah says:

    [quote comment=”2922″]If you smash a regular magnet it will loose it magnetism, thats a fact. High temperature will do the same.
    It is plausable that the explosion and heat from the explosion could have damaged whatever was the EMF force.[/quote]

    WHAT??? If you smash a magnet, you have SEVERAL SMALLER magnets!

  371. 4toes says:

    [quote comment=”2756″]who in the hell is Henry[/quote]
    henry seems to be HIM, thats what i suspected

  372. liam says:

    [quote comment=”3142″][quote comment=”2922″]If you smash a regular magnet it will loose it magnetism, thats a fact. High temperature will do the same.
    It is plausable that the explosion and heat from the explosion could have damaged whatever was the EMF force.[/quote]

    WHAT??? If you smash a magnet, you have SEVERAL SMALLER magnets![/quote]

    well if you brake it would pull its self back toghter

  373. Shellbugg says:

    [quote comment=”3066″][quote comment=”2760″]Me says Charles Widmore is the runner of this whole thing. That would explain how Penny found out about Desmond, and why those Russian Antarctic guys were looking for the island.

    Holy crap, LOST is FOUND! Wooohhooooohooo.

    Ahem. Best cliffhangers (plural) EVAR. =P[/quote]

    Well, Charles might be, but I took the ending with the two Russians, as meaning that Penny had the two Russians monitoring Desmond’s boat. Jin must have tripped it on the boat while waiting for Syiad. Because one of the Russians said, “We found him”. And, they said that they could have missed seeing the alarm twice – meaning the first time when the man in the hatch with Desmond was repairing the boat – and now….

    Penny is not connected to the island…. Only looking for Desmond.[/quote]
    The guy on the phone dint say “we found him” , he said “we found it”, and on the screen it said something like “Electromagnetic pulse detected”… so really the only link we have that she’s desmond’s g/f… we really dont know that she’s tracking desmond..she could be working for her father, and maybe searching for a large magnetic pulse.. ya never know.. but I know the guy dint say “we found him”..that would give too much away

  374. Tasha says:

    [quote comment=”3097″]Okay this is a complete… out of nowhere theory… but I read yesterday that they are coming out with Lost Dolls…. one being Shannon. While I always liked Shannon (sadly enough she reminded me of myself) her backstory, other than her dad being the guy that crashed into Jacks (ex) wife, wasn’t that interesting so why would they make a doll of her?? As far as I can tell… most people didnt even like her character.
    Okay…. so.. what if everyone that has been killed off (on the island) comes back? I mean, stranger things have happened on this show. Polar Bears? Talking Birds? Boats on mountians? So.. maybe people can come back from the dead.
    It would explain Anna-Lucias story being ‘cut short’, having a ‘shannon’ doll made when she no longer on the show.
    Like I said, this is out of no where.. me just kinda rambling.[/quote]

    I actually was thinking that because on Entertainment News…they made a comment that got to me. They said wer wouldnt see Ana Lucia on the show for at least 5 months while she was in jail. This was only 3 days ago I heard this. Didnt they know she had already been killed off???? It sorta hinted to me that she may come back from the dead.

  375. liam says:

    [quote comment=”3146″][quote comment=”3097″]Okay this is a complete… out of nowhere theory… but I read yesterday that they are coming out with Lost Dolls…. one being Shannon. While I always liked Shannon (sadly enough she reminded me of myself) her backstory, other than her dad being the guy that crashed into Jacks (ex) wife, wasn’t that interesting so why would they make a doll of her?? As far as I can tell… most people didnt even like her character.
    Okay…. so.. what if everyone that has been killed off (on the island) comes back? I mean, stranger things have happened on this show. Polar Bears? Talking Birds? Boats on mountians? So.. maybe people can come back from the dead.
    It would explain Anna-Lucias story being ‘cut short’, having a ‘shannon’ doll made when she no longer on the show.
    Like I said, this is out of no where.. me just kinda rambling.[/quote]

    I actually was thinking that because on Entertainment News…they made a comment that got to me. They said wer wouldnt see Ana Lucia on the show for at least 5 months while she was in jail. This was only 3 days ago I heard this. Didnt they know she had already been killed off???? It sorta hinted to me that she may come back from the dead.[/quote]

    well yaa she had a dui and that brought the shows money down

  376. Shellbugg says:

    [quote comment=”3122″][quote comment=”3117″]said that he will go back in the hole if he says anything else[/quote]

    No she asked him if he wanted to go back in the chair, I believe[/quote]

    She said back in the room

  377. Hammer says:

    Hey all, new to this site. Going back to the others killing people, they shot Sawyer on the raft, that was another attempt to kill.

  378. Steve says:

    Everyone, for the last time, the DUI’s had nothing to do with Ana Lucia and Libby getting killed. The scripts were written and finalized before the DUI incidents occurred. The writers and producers have gone on record saying this several different times.
    They worried that this might happen, that people would assume the convictions were the reason for the killings, but decided not to change the script because how they died was too integral to the remainder of this season and future seasons.

  379. 4toes says:

    [quote comment=”2833″]Ok, the tubes were going into a big pile. No one was reading them. No one was watching “them”…in the hatch.
    Did not-pushing-the-button, really bring the plane down?
    Did the hatch blow-up… we did see the hatch door land on the beach.
    Did not-pushing-the-button THIS time bring down ANOTHER plane?
    Was the bright light and loud noise a force field going down; that was hiding the island?

    Where IS Jimmy Hoffa?[/quote]
    [quote comment=”2756″] um who is jimmy hoffa

  380. Hammer says:

    Being from the Detroit era, and assuming you really don’t know who Hoffa is, I can tell ya. Hoffa was the teamsters boss that went missing after a meeting with a mob captain in the Detroit area. They are today looking for his body on a horse farm here in Michigan.

    It has been said that he was thrown into the concrete foundation when they were building the Detroit Rec Cen (now GM’s Word HQ). So there’s the Hoffa connection…they actually buried him in the concrete barrier around the magnet. :)

  381. manny says:

    [quote comment=”3150″]Everyone, for the last time, the DUI’s had nothing to do with Ana Lucia and Libby getting killed. The scripts were written and finalized before the DUI incidents occurred. The writers and producers have gone on record saying this several different times.
    They worried that this might happen, that people would assume the convictions were the reason for the killings, but decided not to change the script because how they died was too integral to the remainder of this season and future seasons.[/quote]

    plus, quite frankly, ana lucia wasn’t really good – either as an actress or as a character. personally, i was happy to see her go.

  382. Andreas says:

    Glad we got the Jimmy Hoffa thing cleared up. If you want more info on him go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_hoffa

    He is not related to Lost so please, stay on topic people. The Lost Blog is meant for somewhat serious discussion of Lost, it is not a chat room.

  383. Hammer says:

    Sorry, I’m new here. Didn’t know how far the jokes can go.

    I do kinda like the “string theory” with parallel universes. Might explain how early in this season people were seeing “visions” of other people (Jack seeing his dad, Sayid seeing Walt, Kate seeing the black horse).

  384. donyab says:

    [quote comment=”2914″][quote comment=”2906″]where did the polar bear come from? they still never explained that one from season 1[/quote]

    well that was just one of walts things that pulled in( rember the comic book)[/quote]

    I also think it’s part of the experiments that took place in the animal hatch, the “arrow” hatch. One of the Lost Dharma videos goes into the 5 hatch “initiative classifications.” Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvzn-PYE2lI&search=dharma%20initiative
    and watch “The Lost Dharma Initiatives. Station 4 is “Zoological Sciences.” I think the polar bear could be a renegade from those experiments!
    http://lost.cubit.net/investigations.php gives additional insights with images.

  385. Andreas says:

    [quote comment=”3155″]Sorry, I’m new here. Didn’t know how far the jokes can go.

    I do kinda like the “string theory” with parallel universes. Might explain how early in this season people were seeing “visions” of other people (Jack seeing his dad, Sayid seeing Walt, Kate seeing the black horse).[/quote]

    Hammer, you don’t need to be sorry, I’m glad that you explained who he is. It’s just that when peaople start fooling around like the person who started talking about Jimmy Hoffa, the comments get more cluttered than necessary and it’s harder for everyone to get a clear picture of the serious ideas and theories considering that there are now close to 300 comments to read through.

  386. Karen says:

    I disagree- Anna Lucia was a great character! I’ll bet somehow she comes back, unless of course, she finds herself in rehab and or jail for too much of the coming year-Boo

  387. Muffy says:

    [quote comment=”2867″][quote comment=”2865″]history people… no slave ships ever sailed east towards australia or india… or anywhere near there… they only came to north and south america… not a slave ship![/quote]

    yea but they were by central america
    (and enter the numbers on a map and youll get were they really are)[/quote]

    Being near Brasil is making more sense now. Even though some people think any language they don’t know is Russian, the guys monitoring *something* were sctually speaking Portuguese. Which is the language they speak in Brasil. Brasil goes pretty far south…which is super cold. I guess this gives credence to the Polar Shift theories…

  388. Karen says:

    Andreas, we have all summer…

  389. Love's Labor's Lost says:

    [quote comment=”2788″]Apparently, Desmond ex is spending some cash to have the russians monitor for electromagnetic anamolys. This will help her to find desmond.
    As for the crash of flight 814:
    when desmond didn’t enter the code when he was on his little rampage, the electromagnet basically pulled the metal plane from the sky.
    It seems that widmore is content on trying to keep desmond on the island so he can’t marry his daughter. Meanwhile she trys to find desmond[/quote]

    Everyone keeps saying “Russians”–didn’t anyone notice that the guys in the snow were speaking spanish?

  390. Hammer says:

    Cool beans Andreas.

    Another note. Someone asked about possible daughters of Jack’s dad. I’m leaning toward Claire, since he was in Austrailia looking for her and the women he was arguing with had an Austrailian accent.

    I also wonder if this site has discussed how it seems people were steered onto this flight. Ecko was going to stay in Austrailia to research the pychic’s daughter miracle, but he made sure that Ecko got on that plane.

  391. manny says:

    [quote comment=”3164″]Cool beans Andreas.

    Another note. Someone asked about possible daughters of Jack’s dad. I’m leaning toward Claire, since he was in Austrailia looking for her and the women he was arguing with had an Austrailian accent.

    I also wonder if this site has discussed how it seems people were steered onto this flight. Ecko was going to stay in Austrailia to research the pychic’s daughter miracle, but he made sure that Ecko got on that plane.[/quote]

    you raise a good point – there’s been no explanation about why was going to l.a? (unless i completely missed it)

    but remember that ecko never really believed the story. when he went interview the daughter, her father told him it was all made up by the coroner to cover his failure at recognizing she wasnt’ really dead.

    was the father of the ‘miracle daughter’ the same psychic that told claire to go to l.a.?

  392. Hammer says:

    If my memory serves, yep…same psychic.

  393. mik says:

    [quote comment=”3056″]okay, here are screencaps:

    Doesnt this look like it’s Jack? Can’t believe noone noticed…

    full caps:

    http://servo.fukt.bth.se/eso/lw2/lost/4.jpg%5B/quote%5D

    [quote comment=”3056″]okay, here are screencaps:

    Doesnt this look like it’s Jack? Can’t believe noone noticed…

    full caps:

    http://servo.fukt.bth.se/eso/lw2/lost/4.jpg%5B/quote%5D

    I can’t believe no one else has commneted on this. From the pics, its too similar to outright dismiss. Sure, it would blow open the whole space/time thing, but like I said, its a safe bet that’s Jack in those pics, aye?

    And yeah, those DUI’s for Ana Lucia and Libby had no impact on their characters longevity on the show. In fact, Libby was in the finale, albeit in a flashback, but still there.

  394. Hammer says:

    Another point to remember is that the miracle girl sought out Ecko at the airport to tell him that she saw his brother when she was “between places”. Could play into the multiple universe string theory.

  395. Tasha says:

    Nobody has commented on my theory about 50 comments back. I just read this also…STILL DEALING WITH THE THEORY OF ANCIENT CIVILIZATION.

    In 1972 to 1978, a Maui based scientific research development agency named MIND International had its agents around the globe collecting evidence about vanished civilizations. Mental Investigations into News Developments was created in 1967 as the Department of Information and was renamed in 1974 to encompass every type of knowledge on the planet, in search of the “ultimate” truth. M.I.N.D. sent agents around the world to collect information that necessarily was excluded from the history books in the United States. Many artifacts and ruins were discovered and publicized in different locales around the world but were necessarily and consciously omitted from the American educational system. The age and technological advancement of many artifacts and ruins contradicted college history texts! Belief in ancient super civilizations and their relics is common in Peru, India, Ecuador, and Tibet.

    The Atlanteans used laser rays & crystals to fuel their power plants. There was a huge “Firestone”, with power generated by filtering the rays of the sun through ruby prisms, which concentrated energy upon instruments connected in the transportation complex by remote control. Inside a huge dome with a sliding roof, cosmic energy stations transmitted beams that could be turned up so high, they became the famous Death Ray. (according to Ruth Montgomery, and Edgar Cayce in their metaphysical receiving sessions)

    Scientists also perfected Anti-matter. When a beam of anti-matter comes in contact with ordinary matter, it instantaneously converted it into invisible energy. In other words, it vaporized it! No wonder traces of Atlantean buildings and cities are so hard to find. They were converted into invisible energy!

    It is said that one of these anti-matter rays is still operating in the Bermuda Triangle, underwater & has been causing ships and planes to disappear. Today that ray is out of control. Many Atlanteans fled to underground cities that were later buried by flooding oceans, crushed under the glaciers, or buried by mud and debris. This metaphysical version of Atlantis is difficult to prove without visible evidence. However, ancient writings tell about much of the destruction and the weapons involved.

    Please someone tell me im crazy.

  396. Helena says:

    Ok there was an obeservatioen about Jack in the background when desmond talked to his girl. The think is jack was not togeteher with that girl. She looked different…Just so you know…

    Will there be any more episodes?

  397. Hammer says:

    Okay…you’re crazy. I don’t anything about that stuff.

    Gotta go. Love this site…I’ll check in tomorrow 9:00a Eastern.

  398. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”3164″]…
    I also wonder if this site has discussed how it seems people were steered onto this flight. Ecko was going to stay in Austrailia to research the pychic’s daughter miracle, but he made sure that Ecko got on that plane.[/quote]

    The same “psychic” made sure Claire was on Flight 815 as well. He was adamant that it had to be THAT FLIGHT and only that flight.
    He’s among my major suspects for being a Hanso Foundation employee. His daughter could quite possibly be the “Persephone” that has been “hacking” the Hanso websites. An image of a girl that looks strikingly like her appears when you follow through with the sublymonal site.

  399. Andreas L says:

    I reacted a lot when i read your post Tasha. Has anyone else read this? The content seems to have a lot of common with the latest two episodes (final).

  400. [quote comment=”3034″]Locke’s dad is on the Widmore Group Board of Directors… http://www.widmoregroup.com/corporate.htm Awesome.[/quote]

    Has anyone been able to confirm whether this Widmore Group site is legit? On the “Privacy” page, there’s a disclaimer stating that the site isn’t affiliated with ABC/Touchstone or Disney. This seems to indicate that it’s not officially part of the Lost Experience.

    However, the LostPedia under its Lost Experience entry (http://lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Lost_Experience) states that http://www.widmore.com appears to registered to ABC. Currently, the Widmore.com page has a log-in screen. Has anyone tried cracking into this yet?

  401. MJ says:

    Why did they have michael bring them to the meeting point where the tubes were? Did they read Lockes MAP that he sent? What significance is that?

    Did we see Jacks father buried? I can’t remember? Maybe he is not dead and behind all this, cause almost everyone is connected to him………

    So many questions……

  402. Andreas L says:

    [quote comment=”3104″]Has anyone ever wondered where, since this island is so remote, do the “Others” get fuel for their boat(s)?
    That was an internal combustion engine powered boat that 1) was used in the kidnapping of Walt and 2) was given control of to Michael so the ha and Walt could leave.[/quote]

    Im not sure about this, But perhaps the could be oil resources located at the Island. They could have huge ammounts of oil provided by the “Hanso Foundation” or similar.

  403. Andreas says:

    [quote comment=”3056″]okay, here are screencaps:

    Doesnt this look like it’s Jack? Can’t believe noone noticed…

    full caps:

    http://servo.fukt.bth.se/eso/lw2/lost/4.jpg%5B/quote%5D

    According to TVSquad, it’s not jack.

    http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/05/25/no-i-am-not-jack/

  404. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”3181″]…Has anyone been able to confirm whether this Widmore Group site is legit? On the “Privacy” page, there’s a disclaimer stating that the site isn’t affiliated with ABC/Touchstone or Disney. This seems to indicate that it’s not officially part of the Lost Experience.

    However, the LostPedia under its Lost Experience entry (http://lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Lost_Experience) states that http://www.widmore.com appears to registered to ABC. Currently, the Widmore.com page has a log-in screen. Has anyone tried cracking into this yet?[/quote]

    The WhoIS information for widmoregroup is:
    “Registrant:
    GlobeContact.com
    Douglas B
    / I removed some info due to privacy concerns – Andreas

    Created on…………..: Wed, Mar 29, 2006
    Expires on…………..: Thu, Mar 29, 2007
    Record last updated on..: Tue, May 09, 2006″

    http://www.GlobeContract.com lists “Oceanic World Airlines – Fictional airline based on ABC TV show LOST” as a client of it’s web design services: http://globecontact.com/clients.htm

  405. Tasha says:

    Thanks for someone acknowledging it! If you have a question I can find somewhere that could explain it. I have looked so far into it. How does this relate to present time is what everyone may be wondering….

    (Geologists around the world agree that the ice in Alaska and most other polar lands in the north were tropical thousands of years ago. Many plants, fish and animals native to subtropical climates have been found frown beneath the Arctic glaciers. Scientists now have proof that the North Pole has shifted its position several times by many thousands of miles! What was once tropical is now ice cap! What was once glaciers is now the tropics! Here in 1990, EXPERTS AGREE that this reversal will occur WITHIN THE NEXT Fifty (50) YEARS OR LESS! Maybe with the end of the Mayan calendar in the year 2012 on 21th December…)

    May explain the polar bear…

    Well, if anyone remember’s the nazi’s…which I’m sure someone does…

    (Remember that Nazi science in the 1930’s and 40’s was, in many ways, more advanced than in the United States and other nations. The Nazis had rockets, Jet planes, radar, and many weapons BEFORE any other country.. and had superior submarines and the first freeways! Some suggest they had their information from India’s RAMA civilization where Hitler did archeological missions.)

    (The founders of the Nazis believed that they were destined in create the new Super Race that would rule this planet in the future Golden Age. The Nazi leaders were convinced that all of history was in cycles, consisting of golden ages followed by disasters. Hitler stated that the repetition of history required that to recreate the supermen who had come and gone, the Nazis must exterminate all of the inferior races they believed inhabited the planet. It was their belief that it was the destiny of the Nazis, in the universal plan, to manifest the Age of Aquarius and a new race.)

    THEY HAD PLANS TO Start a new race in underground cities. The infamous genetic experiments on prisoners in Nazi concentration camps were attempts to manipulate genes to create and breed the New Race that would rule the Golden Age.

    Now they did this in belief of THE GOLDEN AGE which was thousands of years before Christ.
    We are talking about a time when it was a Myth but that technology was advanced like it is today. They could do brain surgery without a mistake. They built the pyramids. They had bullets which means they had guns. It was a time when history rewrote itself and that is what in ancient times they believed and were almost always right according to ancient manuscrpts.

    So in conclusion…maybe Dharma and Hanso…and this new website are all people of the nazi’s. THis is their way of engineering the Good people. The ones who will rule the earth when the Ice Age or whatever hits again.

    In conclusion to everyone who believes that the only reason the plane crashed on this island was because of a magnet…this can’t be it. I will never believe that. I think it was MEANT to happen like Locke says. Or these people were sent there. How else would the OTHERS have had THE LIST? They knew who was going to crash there before they even crashed….

  406. Vegas says:

    [quote comment=”2857″]does anyone here know tho when the next episode airs?[/quote]

    Sadly…not another LOST in sight until october/november

  407. billj says:

    [quote comment=”2854″]I do not believe for a second that Walt and Michael are free. (Michael has some payback coming now too.) Good call who ever it was that opined Not-Henry was in charge. Not-Henry wanted Locke to quit pressing the button right? But it seems he is most interested in staying hidden so that is confusing. I am betting that Widmore paid Libby to offer Des the boat. (I wonder what else she did?) Does that mean the Others are against Dharma (I always thought they were)but not sure how they fit. Do they need to stay hidden to damage Hanso Foundation without losing their lives? So does that mean they are recruiting Jack, Kate and Sawyer? I am still stuck on the time warp thing…could they be from the future?…the past? Looks like Jack and Kate (and Sawyer??) have a plan cooked up with the eyes closing thing – I am sure that will be good. I am guessing that Locke, Eko and Desmond are ok but what kind of shape are they in? Have they now been exposed to radiation or something similar? (Looks like we are going to have to research EMT.) Dude, Hurley is going to tell…. I cannot wait to watch this again…It is going to be a long summer and to coin a phrase heard here… “they are going to need a bigger boat”! Loved the answers and the new questions. Best show on TV![/quote]
    Great theory on the Libby/Dad Widmore thing, i bet your’e right. Libby is bad, and fate paid her back by sending her to the island cuz she set up Desmond

  408. Andreas L says:

    I tried to somewhat find out the difference. They look quite the same. From what i can see is that the Lips are different. I made this quick in photoshop, googled for the images. *bad screens”.

    Image: http://www.eblist.org/wp-images/difference.jpg

  409. HavocWare says:

    [quote comment=”3147″][quote comment=”3146″][quote comment=”3097″]Okay this is a complete… out of nowhere theory… but I read yesterday that they are coming out with Lost Dolls…. one being Shannon. While I always liked Shannon (sadly enough she reminded me of myself) her backstory, other than her dad being the guy that crashed into Jacks (ex) wife, wasn’t that interesting so why would they make a doll of her?? As far as I can tell… most people didnt even like her character.
    Okay…. so.. what if everyone that has been killed off (on the island) comes back? I mean, stranger things have happened on this show. Polar Bears? Talking Birds? Boats on mountians? So.. maybe people can come back from the dead.
    It would explain Anna-Lucias story being ‘cut short’, having a ‘shannon’ doll made when she no longer on the show.
    Like I said, this is out of no where.. me just kinda rambling.[/quote]

    I actually was thinking that because on Entertainment News…they made a comment that got to me. They said wer wouldnt see Ana Lucia on the show for at least 5 months while she was in jail. This was only 3 days ago I heard this. Didnt they know she had already been killed off???? It sorta hinted to me that she may come back from the dead.[/quote]

    well yaa she had a dui and that brought the shows money down[/quote]

    Liam, I’ve read this entire thread for the last 2 hours os so trying to get my head around last night’s episode, and hear other opinions. Until now, I’ve only cringed when I see your name appear on a post, but I just can’t bear it any longer.

    Really – you bother me with this incessant nonsense where you only post for the sake of posting. It’s obvious in the thread timeline that you began your quest immediately after last night’s show, took a quick nap, then jumped back into the mix; never actually contributing anything (excpet to my anguish.)

    Honestly – you can’t be serious about this statement “well yaa she had a dui and that brought the shows money down”, can you?

    Adding insult to injury, you can’t spell worth a shit.

    Namaste

  410. Libby says:

    Thank you, Andreas, for trying to keep the comments under control- this thread was so frustrating to read through. I come here to have mature conversations about the show, not silly ones.

    I will definitely be back once I can watch the episode in one sitting- I watched half last night and half today, so my thoughts are kind of jumpy right now. I’ll be back after I re-watch and then I can really talk about things, but here are a few things that stood out to me.

    -When Charlie came back to the camp, someone (was it Bernarnd? i really don’t remember) asked him where Locke and/or Eko was. And he said “They didn’t get back yet?” or something along those lines. To me, this says that they made it out of the hatch. Otherwise, Charlie would have said “the hatch exploded, and they were in it” or something equally informative. I think they made it out and are somewhere on the island, alive.

    -Sayid got to explore the Others’ little camp area. I would love to hear what he has to see about this- he can tell us/the other characters just how fake everything was, and what he observed and found there. I think that he and Jin and Sun will come to the rescue of Jack, Kate and Sawyer… whether they’ll be able to help, I don’t know. Maybe they’ll run into Michael and Walt, since both parties are in boats?

    -I think that Jack definitely has a plan. They all seemed to be in on something as they were blindfolded- even Michael kept watching Jack and he drove away, to me it looked like was waiting for instructions or a signal of some kind. I think that Michael will try to redeem himself to the Losties because he truly is sorry for the actions he had to take to get back his son- I don’t think he’s really getting away, either.

    That’s it for me for now- I think a lot of comments have gone up since I started writing this, anyway. :)
    -Libby
    (and, coincidentally, my proper name is also Elizabeth, but I’ve been Libby since I was little.)

  411. Tasha says:

    quote comment=”2895″]even the atlantis theory… ok basic evolution here… people have been around in human form for at least 85,000 yrs… with 5 toes, there are no skeletons with only 4…. i know a woman from my parent’s church who had 6 toes, as did her twin sister, but that is an anomolyk, not a civilization[/quote]

    Ok. But who said it was Human? If you think about it. The Atlantis theory, back then they had statue of Gods. And I have seen some surfing the web today with 4 fingers and 4 toes. Ancient staues were many things. Look at the Sphinx.( Is that how you spell). We would never think of that as being real.

  412. mik says:

    The whole island thus far has been about illusion and trickery. The same goes for the Others’ “camp”. That was all fabricated for Michael’s benefit. The reason the Others’ ‘hatch’ is so weird is because it was a fake hatch. Fake hatch, fake camp, fake everything. I would say most of the Others’ work occurs off site, I mean there is a boat dock for a reason.

    The four-toed statue is NOT an Orangutan foot, period. I’ve never put greek sandles on an Orang, but I’ve worked with enough to know that it takes a lot more than leather lace-ups to pass for anything even close to humanoid.

    I think I’m inclined to agree that Fake Henry is not just in charge, but Hanso himself. Pretty ballsy to let himself get captured too.

  413. Tasha says:

    [quote comment=”2989″]Still think that LOST has connection to the axcient Civilation (Ancient Mythology) …
    The whole island (region) could be the origin of some great civilization that Dharma found out, conducted experiment, half way cannot control the mystery power (tecnology), bail out, left all the facility with some even half way built.
    Gosh, I sounded like a crazy dude here, hehehehe …[/quote]

    No you don’t. That is my theory.

  414. Jason says:

    In Desmonds FlashBack, when we find him on shor on the island, Calvin went and got him in that yellow suit, if im not mistaking.. i think they are the ( Others ) because when Calvin Aproached Desmond while he was unconcios… there was many people in the yellow suit…. am i correct?

  415. Jason says:

    [quote comment=”3202″]The whole island thus far has been about illusion and trickery. The same goes for the Others’ “camp”. That was all fabricated for Michael’s benefit. The reason the Others’ ‘hatch’ is so weird is because it was a fake hatch. Fake hatch, fake camp, fake everything. I would say most of the Others’ work occurs off site, I mean there is a boat dock for a reason.

    The four-toed statue is NOT an Orangutan foot, period. I’ve never put greek sandles on an Orang, but I’ve worked with enough to know that it takes a lot more than leather lace-ups to pass for anything even close to humanoid.

    I think I’m inclined to agree that Fake Henry is not just in charge, but Hanso himself. Pretty ballsy to let himself get captured too.[/quote]
    True, Because our castaways have a better place then that… … why doesnt Sayid go around the whole Island… maybe we will uncover more thrilling secrets

  416. manny says:

    [quote comment=”3206″]In Desmonds FlashBack, when we find him on shor on the island, Calvin went and got him in that yellow suit, if im not mistaking.. i think they are the ( Others ) because when Calvin Aproached Desmond while he was unconcios… there was many people in the yellow suit…. am i correct?[/quote]

    i have to go back to watch the show again, but i do also remember seeing more than one person on the beach going for desmond. however, i’m wondering if we’re not supposed to be viewing it from desmond’s point of view. if he was disoriented, he could be seeing doubles when only one was there.

  417. Tasha says:

    [quote comment=”3202″]The whole island thus far has been about illusion and trickery. The same goes for the Others’ “camp”. That was all fabricated for Michael’s benefit. The reason the Others’ ‘hatch’ is so weird is because it was a fake hatch. Fake hatch, fake camp, fake everything. I would say most of the Others’ work occurs off site, I mean there is a boat dock for a reason.

    The four-toed statue is NOT an Orangutan foot, period. I’ve never put greek sandles on an Orang, but I’ve worked with enough to know that it takes a lot more than leather lace-ups to pass for anything even close to humanoid.

    I think I’m inclined to agree that Fake Henry is not just in charge, but Hanso himself. Pretty ballsy to let himself get captured too.[/quote]

    Has anyone ever thought that maybe at one time THAT WASN’T a fake hatch? When I saw where the tube led…it kinda looked like a scene from the movie Twister. Remember they were hanging on the pipe and the rest of the building just flew away? Not saying there was a tornado….but could possibly there have been something there at one time? Maybe a building or something else? I mean it is kinda a thought. Question is more why would they leave all that there in a pile or….is that what was left SINCE then? ok I haven’t figured that much out. But it just looks like it could have led to something at one time that isn’t there anymore. Just trying to keep an open mind.
    I know I post alot here but I am a HUGE fan and never have really stated all my ideas. I have only looked, so I found this blog and it’s great to see other people so interested. Nobody I talk to ever knows what i’m talking about.

  418. Jason says:

    [quote comment=”3190″][quote comment=”2854″]I do not believe for a second that Walt and Michael are free. (Michael has some payback coming now too.) Good call who ever it was that opined Not-Henry was in charge. Not-Henry wanted Locke to quit pressing the button right? But it seems he is most interested in staying hidden so that is confusing. I am betting that Widmore paid Libby to offer Des the boat. (I wonder what else she did?) Does that mean the Others are against Dharma (I always thought they were)but not sure how they fit. Do they need to stay hidden to damage Hanso Foundation without losing their lives? So does that mean they are recruiting Jack, Kate and Sawyer? I am still stuck on the time warp thing…could they be from the future?…the past? Looks like Jack and Kate (and Sawyer??) have a plan cooked up with the eyes closing thing – I am sure that will be good. I am guessing that Locke, Eko and Desmond are ok but what kind of shape are they in? Have they now been exposed to radiation or something similar? (Looks like we are going to have to research EMT.) Dude, Hurley is going to tell…. I cannot wait to watch this again…It is going to be a long summer and to coin a phrase heard here… “they are going to need a bigger boat”! Loved the answers and the new questions. Best show on TV![/quote]
    Great theory on the Libby/Dad Widmore thing, i bet your’e right. Libby is bad, and fate paid her back by sending her to the island cuz she set up Desmond[/quote]
    Honestly , i think Walt and Michael are done… the other say they’re the good guys? and what have they did wrong to prove themselves wrong? so i think they are gone home now, because Walk is a kid, and he has school… notice he wasnt on many episodes this year?

  419. Jason says:

    [quote comment=”3209″][quote comment=”3206″]In Desmonds FlashBack, when we find him on shor on the island, Calvin went and got him in that yellow suit, if im not mistaking.. i think they are the ( Others ) because when Calvin Aproached Desmond while he was unconcios… there was many people in the yellow suit…. am i correct?[/quote]

    i have to go back to watch the show again, but i do also remember seeing more than one person on the beach going for desmond. however, i’m wondering if we’re not supposed to be viewing it from desmond’s point of view. if he was disoriented, he could be seeing doubles when only one was there.[/quote]
    oooooooooooohh …. well that ruined it… i think ur right… thankx :P

  420. Jason says:

    [quote comment=”3209″][quote comment=”3206″]In Desmonds FlashBack, when we find him on shor on the island, Calvin went and got him in that yellow suit, if im not mistaking.. i think they are the ( Others ) because when Calvin Aproached Desmond while he was unconcios… there was many people in the yellow suit…. am i correct?[/quote]

    i have to go back to watch the show again, but i do also remember seeing more than one person on the beach going for desmond. however, i’m wondering if we’re not supposed to be viewing it from desmond’s point of view. if he was disoriented, he could be seeing doubles when only one was there.[/quote]

    oooooooooooohh …. well that ruined it… i think ur right… thankx :P

  421. Jason says:

    If You Guys Rerember, the final 30 minutes of the show, Desmond was reading the pages, which Lock found in the other Hatch… so that means September 22 when they crashed Desmond was infact in the hatch.. but who was recoring him? they wrote that there was system failuar.. so where is this mysteri person?

  422. Miguel says:

    A few things:
    1) It seemed like there was more than one person who picked up Desmond. Probably not too relevant.
    2) I would love to see a back story on Henry. I have a feeling that there is going to be one.
    3)It was WAY too convinient for Libby/Elizabeth to meet Desmond the way she did. It had to be set up. Will she be a key person showing up in other people’s past. Somehow to get them to the island/on the plane?
    4) I have a feeling that the statue/foot is really going to play no role in the future, kind of like the polar bear or weird ass falcon thing that supposedly said “Hurley”
    5) Kate is way hot

  423. Tasha says:

    [quote comment=”3214″]If You Guys Rerember, the final 30 minutes of the show, Desmond was reading the pages, which Lock found in the other Hatch… so that means September 22 when they crashed Desmond was infact in the hatch.. but who was recoring him? they wrote that there was system failuar.. so where is this mysteri person?[/quote]

    That stuff automatically printed out. Nobody recorded it. It was on the computer.

  424. manny says:

    [quote comment=”3211″][quote comment=”3190″][quote comment=”2854″]I do not believe for a second that Walt and Michael are free. (Michael has some payback coming now too.) Good call who ever it was that opined Not-Henry was in charge. Not-Henry wanted Locke to quit pressing the button right? But it seems he is most interested in staying hidden so that is confusing. I am betting that Widmore paid Libby to offer Des the boat. (I wonder what else she did?) Does that mean the Others are against Dharma (I always thought they were)but not sure how they fit. Do they need to stay hidden to damage Hanso Foundation without losing their lives? So does that mean they are recruiting Jack, Kate and Sawyer? I am still stuck on the time warp thing…could they be from the future?…the past? Looks like Jack and Kate (and Sawyer??) have a plan cooked up with the eyes closing thing – I am sure that will be good. I am guessing that Locke, Eko and Desmond are ok but what kind of shape are they in? Have they now been exposed to radiation or something similar? (Looks like we are going to have to research EMT.) Dude, Hurley is going to tell…. I cannot wait to watch this again…It is going to be a long summer and to coin a phrase heard here… “they are going to need a bigger boat”! Loved the answers and the new questions. Best show on TV![/quote]
    Great theory on the Libby/Dad Widmore thing, i bet your’e right. Libby is bad, and fate paid her back by sending her to the island cuz she set up Desmond[/quote]
    Honestly , i think Walt and Michael are done… the other say they’re the good guys? and what have they did wrong to prove themselves wrong? so i think they are gone home now, because Walk is a kid, and he has school… notice he wasnt on many episodes this year?[/quote]

    it’s quite possible that “the others” (although i prefer “the hostiles”) are done with walt. when they were making the exchange on the pier, henry mentioned that they had gotten more than they had hoped for from walt. that could mean one of two things. either they managed to get what they wanted alot quicker than expected or he was more than they could handle.

    however, i don’t think they’re off the island. that’s way too easy an out.

  425. Jason says:

    [quote comment=”3210″][quote comment=”3202″]The whole island thus far has been about illusion and trickery. The same goes for the Others’ “camp”. That was all fabricated for Michael’s benefit. The reason the Others’ ‘hatch’ is so weird is because it was a fake hatch. Fake hatch, fake camp, fake everything. I would say most of the Others’ work occurs off site, I mean there is a boat dock for a reason.

    The four-toed statue is NOT an Orangutan foot, period. I’ve never put greek sandles on an Orang, but I’ve worked with enough to know that it takes a lot more than leather lace-ups to pass for anything even close to humanoid.

    I think I’m inclined to agree that Fake Henry is not just in charge, but Hanso himself. Pretty ballsy to let himself get captured too.[/quote]

    Has anyone ever thought that maybe at one time THAT WASN’T a fake hatch? When I saw where the tube led…it kinda looked like a scene from the movie Twister. Remember they were hanging on the pipe and the rest of the building just flew away? Not saying there was a tornado….but could possibly there have been something there at one time? Maybe a building or something else? I mean it is kinda a thought. Question is more why would they leave all that there in a pile or….is that what was left SINCE then? ok I haven’t figured that much out. But it just looks like it could have led to something at one time that isn’t there anymore. Just trying to keep an open mind.
    I know I post alot here but I am a HUGE fan and never have really stated all my ideas. I have only looked, so I found this blog and it’s great to see other people so interested. Nobody I talk to ever knows what i’m talking about.[/quote]

    very weird but still… btw.. where did Russeau get her electric cord all the way to her lil Hut but now its blown up… it was comming from the water… maybe the cord leads to where Micheal and Walt are heading to?… just a theory..

  426. Tasha says:

    Yeah. There are lots of kids that are on tv and have school….I mean it didn’t stop Paris from being on American idol.

  427. Miguel says:

    [quote comment=”3214″]they wrote that there was system failuar.. so where is this mysteri person?[/quote] I guess I don’t remember someone “writing” that. Was it in one of the notebooks? I bet the notebooks will reveal all kinds of neat plot twists. The Others have obviously seen that pile. Seems a bit strange it’s there and not, like, in the ocean or something since it’s obvious nobody (Others or who Dharma & Greg people)seems to care about them.

  428. Jason says:

    [quote comment=”3219″]Yeah. There are lots of kids that are on tv and have school….I mean it didn’t stop Paris from being on American idol.[/quote]

    But Walt is just a little Kid? u really wanna take him out of school for a couple years to play on a show? look at Dakoda Fanning, i bet that chick doesnt even know 6×82=? she was young when she started acting althought she is a very good actress, now lets not get off topic about Lost :D

  429. Jason says:

    [quote comment=”3220″][quote comment=”3214″]they wrote that there was system failuar.. so where is this mysteri person?[/quote] I guess I don’t remember someone “writing” that. Was it in one of the notebooks? I bet the notebooks will reveal all kinds of neat plot twists. The Others have obviously seen that pile. Seems a bit strange it’s there and not, like, in the ocean or something since it’s obvious nobody (Others or who Dharma & Greg people)seems to care about them.[/quote]

    they were put there for a reason, but honestly.. i think the Others arent really the biggest fear on the island, i bet theres something that scared them away to live someonewhere else other then the island…( the boat and the dock )..

  430. Miguel says:

    [quote comment=”3222″] i bet theres something that scared them away to live someonewhere else other then the island…( the boat and the dock )..[/quote]

    Interesting point. Perhaps like a Waterworld scenerio. Maybe they live in the foot statue? Just kidding on the last one.

  431. Jason says:

    Im Not Sure If Im Suppose to say this but, the producer said on a spoiler site, that next season we will be hearing alot from Roussea, and it will have her flash back, btw dint u notice Hurleys flashback when he was in the mental place.. that Libby was their also?

  432. manny says:

    ok – and i know i may be overthinking this – but what really bothers me about discovering the affect of not typing in the numbers is that if the results are truly to be catastrophic, wouldn’t those in charge have set up some process that didn’t require manual input? there seems to be too much left to chance if we’re to believe that something bad really was going to happen.

  433. Tasha says:

    The Others acted like it didn’t even matter when they saw that. Like it was nothing. Henry just started talking to micheal…like Hellooo?? Did anybody just see and hear that? That whole part was a little ODD.

    Also…still nobody seems to care that Charlie KILLED ETHAN. If they wanted the people that have killed, why didn’t they take Charlie? These people obviously have worked in the Hatches because that is where Claire first saw Alex. Then they just All up and abandoned that Hatch.

  434. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”3211″]…so i think they are gone home now, because Walk is a kid, and he has school… notice he wasnt on many episodes this year?[/quote]

    Malcolm David Kelley, aka Walt, is home-schooled, so his situation is much different than most kids. I don’t think Walt was written out of Season 2 because of school. It was just a good plot twist. Think about it, if Walt had never been kidnapped, most of the real important stuff from Season 2 wouldn’t have mattered.

    Walt and Michael will be back. Hopefully with revenge in mind. Sure, Michael is happy to have his son back, but we’ve seen in the past that he can be very vengeful, and I highly suspect he will return to get payback on The Others for what they did and what they made him do.

  435. lori says:

    mmmm

  436. Mike says:

    did eko die? anyone???

  437. lori says:

    sorry, I was testing if my e-mail would go through. I know others looked this up already, but no one has mentioned it. I believe the scripture Eko carved onto his staff was Revelations 3. It states: People say that you are dead. Wake up! Make yourselves stronger while you still have something left and before it dies completely. I have found that what you are doing is not good enough for my God. So do not forget what you have received and heard. Obey it. Change your hearts and lives! I believe this ties in to one of the many themes which include redemption and people seeking peace within themselves for their past sins. ALso, I absolutely thought that last Portuguese guy (although I thought he was Russian,too) was Jack. I insisted that it was Jack to my son, who promptly blew me off. Thanks

  438. Mike says:

    Eko bought a house in hawaii, and, as far as i know, he hasn’t moved out….i’m guessing he’s still alive going into season 3.

    Also, any idea when the season 2 Lost series comes out on DVD?

  439. Mike says:

    I loved the end bit with charlie and that australian girl.

    i was waiting for that one since the abduction in season 1!!! awesome!

    i hope that Michael’s boat runs out of gas :\

  440. Mike says:

    Was it just me or did I see the koreans and Saeed on the dock with the other captives when the EMP bomb went off? Where did they go?

  441. julie says:

    [quote comment=”3171″]Another point to remember is that the miracle girl sought out Ecko at the airport to tell him that she saw his brother when she was “between places”. Could play into the multiple universe string theory.[/quote]

    That could also be why on this “maybe parallell universe”, people’s illnesses went away. Another theory could revolve around a “fountain of youth” people stop dying, perhaps through this magnetic shield and the shield could also be what cured people’s so called illnesses, cancer, paralysis, etc. Now that the field is supposedly gone, will the illnesses come back?

  442. Sam says:

    [quote comment=”3139″][quote comment=”3135″][quote comment=”3131″]…Charles Widmore, Penny’s father, is deeply involved with the mysterious magnetic island. When Desmond refuses to leave his daughter alone, Widmore decides to dump Desmond on the island to keep him away from Penny…[/quote]

    I’ve seen a number of people saying this, but maybe I’m missing something here…
    We know Widmore sponsored the race around the world. But how would he possibly know that Desmond would enter the race? How did he “dump” Desmond on the island? It’s not like he forced Desmond to enter the race…at least it doesn’t seem that way from the info we’ve gotten so far.
    All we know is that Desmond entered the race sponsored by Widmore with the objective of winning the money from Widmore and proving to him that he wasn’t a quitter.[/quote]

    Valid points Steve. That was the idea I got from the ending scene but I’m sure that the reality is more complex than anything we’ve managed to think of yet.[/quote]

    What if Penny isn’t looking for Desmond? What if she’s looking for the survivors of Flight 815? So many other characters have inter-twined back-stories, so it’s conceivable that Penny had a friend on Flight 815. Maybe she’s been searching for them, and she’s learned enough to know that there was an electromagnetic disturbance the day the plane crashed (when Desmond was late pushing the button).

    It’s pure conjecture (Penny knowning someone on the plane), but it fits the show’s style and it fits the episode’s ending.

  443. lori says:

    I forgot also to mention that I could swear that Locke said something about the snowmen and the carrot to somebody, who didn’t get the joke. Then in the flashback to Desmond, that Ingram guy in the yellow suit says to Desmond in semi-coma that snowman and carrot joke. Desmond doesn’t know what he’s talking about and the Ingram guy says “You’re not the one”, and he’s very disappointed, because who he’s really looking for is Locke! Locke seems to be the one to lead them all out of their problems. He is the “chosen one”. Am I wrong, maybe I got this wrong.

  444. Mike says:

    Okay here are my general theories on LOST season 3:

    1) Artificial or natural barriers prevent any human captive from exiting the island by sea.
    2) The ‘others’ are equally vulnerable to the natural/artificial barriers associated with the loud buzzing set off by the bunker.
    3) According to the directors, the island is in another contemporaneous dimension that can be detected from the outside world.

  445. Tasha says:

    Yeah…I was thinking maybe she was looking for someone else. I have watched the last 5 minutes like a 100 times. Somewhere before this episode I thought I heard Libby was married to Charles Whidmore. If this were true…that would make Libby her mother. This may not be true….I just remember seeing Libby was married to somebody in a spoiler.

  446. Love's Labor's Lost says:

    [quote comment=”3216″][quote comment=”3214″]If You Guys Rerember, the final 30 minutes of the show, Desmond was reading the pages, which Lock found in the other Hatch… so that means September 22 when they crashed Desmond was infact in the hatch.. but who was recoring him? they wrote that there was system failuar.. so where is this mysteri person?[/quote]

    That stuff automatically printed out. Nobody recorded it. It was on the computer.[/quote]

    I think the poster is referring to what was recorded in the notebooks. The Losties read a little from the notebooks. Was the crash or system failure mentioned then? I’ll have to watch the episode again.

  447. Love's Labor's Lost says:

    [quote comment=”3225″]Im Not Sure If Im Suppose to say this but, the producer said on a spoiler site, that next season we will be hearing alot from Roussea, and it will have her flash back, btw dint u notice Hurleys flashback when he was in the mental place.. that Libby was their also?[/quote]

    Jason, do you think none of us watch the show? Everyone knows by now that Libby was in the asylum, and it’s been talked about for ages that we HAVE to get her back story before she goes away for good to find out what she was doing there.

  448. Arattilion says:

    [quote comment=”2757″]wow, what was with the russians?[/quote]

    Dude, not russians… Portuguese or Brazilians

  449. Love's Labor's Lost says:

    [quote comment=”3240″]I forgot also to mention that I could swear that Locke said something about the snowmen and the carrot to somebody, who didn’t get the joke. Then in the flashback to Desmond, that Ingram guy in the yellow suit says to Desmond in semi-coma that snowman and carrot joke. Desmond doesn’t know what he’s talking about and the Ingram guy says “You’re not the one”, and he’s very disappointed, because who he’s really looking for is Locke! Locke seems to be the one to lead them all out of their problems. He is the “chosen one”. Am I wrong, maybe I got this wrong.[/quote]

    You’re exactly right. I think Locke told the joke to Charlie, who didn’t get it. When Calvin told D the joke, I immediately thought of Not-Henry telling Locke he was the One they wanted.

  450. JK says:

    Has anyone ever read “Our Mutual Friend”? There must be some significance, obviously, because of Desmond keeping that book until the end.

  451. Tasha says:

    YOu know what? I am starting to think Libby has nothing to do with the PLAN to get Desmond to the island. She was obviously going crazy cause her husband died and then she ended up in the nut house.

  452. Lucky charm says:

    Well, this is a show where everything has a meaning. So, could the joke itself mean something? With the polar bear and snow mans, it kinda fits together. Not sure it has much significance, but it lends credance to the theory that the island use to polar.

    Also, didn’t Desmond ask Locke that joke when he first entered the hatch? Was that the first time we heard the joke? It obviously is some kind of code to make sure they are handing the hatch over to the right person. (Sorry, am I stating the obvious?) :)

  453. termal12 says:

    What russians?
    One of them was brazilian, and they were speaking portuguese, with a lausy accent

  454. Tasha says:

    I was thinking that too when I read that. I would have to watch the episode again but I think maybe Desmond asked Locke that when he first met him.

    Locke asked Desmond the other night on the Finale. It wasn’t to Charlie unless you are thinking of another incident. Anyway when Locke goes up to Edmond on the beach he asks it.

    and Kelvin asked Edmond when he rescued him.

  455. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”3238″]…What if Penny isn’t looking for Desmond? What if she’s looking for the survivors of Flight 815? So many other characters have inter-twined back-stories, so it’s conceivable that Penny had a friend on Flight 815. Maybe she’s been searching for them, and she’s learned enough to know that there was an electromagnetic disturbance the day the plane crashed (when Desmond was late pushing the button).

    It’s pure conjecture (Penny knowning someone on the plane), but it fits the show’s style and it fits the episode’s ending.[/quote]

    It seemed painfully obvious that she was looking for the island *with Desmond on it*. It’s been over 3 years since he’s been “missing” and yet she still sleeps with his picture in a frame right next to her bed; she is clearly still in love and searching for Desmond.

  456. Jon says:

    Did any one realize one of the russian guys was the guy sayn the numbers in the looneybin with hurley???
    Was that a flash back to the first time the magnet pulse thing went off or am i wrong??

  457. Eddie says:

    [quote comment=”3215″]A few things:
    1) It seemed like there was more than one person who picked up Desmond. Probably not too relevant.
    2) I would love to see a back story on Henry. I have a feeling that there is going to be one.
    3)It was WAY too convinient for Libby/Elizabeth to meet Desmond the way she did. It had to be set up. Will she be a key person showing up in other people’s past. Somehow to get them to the island/on the plane?
    4) I have a feeling that the statue/foot is really going to play no role in the future, kind of like the polar bear or weird ass falcon thing that supposedly said “Hurley”
    5) Kate is way hot[/quote]

    First off, the falcon did not say “Hurley”

    Secondly, the foot statue has 4 toes, what mythological creature only had 4 toes? A Goliath

    Third, what mythological creature is made of smoke and lives in the dark? A Wraith

    To me the magnetic field around this island has somehow allowed light to pass threw the island making is seem invisable to anyone who looks for it from the outside world. the strong pull of magnetics can cause electrical malfunctions in directional equiptment causing the boat to return to the island. Since the island is protected by tis field, the creatures on said island would be undiscovered. it would also explain some of the experiments being tested by the hanso foundation as listed on there website.

  458. Tasha says:

    [quote comment=”3259″]Did any one realize one of the russian guys was the guy sayn the numbers in the looneybin with hurley???
    Was that a flash back to the first time the magnet pulse thing went off or am i wrong??[/quote]

    WHOA. I didn’t even notice. If so…I don’t think that guy would ever get out of the Looney Bin. COuld it have been a flashback? My husband’s theory….which I think is sorta off…is that there is a part of the island covered in snow. He really thinks this. Could the island have been covered at one point? If that is a flashback it’s possible.

  459. darstar says:

    Love the idea that the island may be covered in snow! Don’t forget, there were ravaged polar bears on the island in Season One. My husband’s theory: Penny’s dad is the guy funding the Dharma Initiative.

  460. Chelsea says:

    hey everyone me and my dad have watched every episode and we still have yet to figure anything out. but we missed the last episode becuase he had to work late so can somebod please tell me what is going on

  461. Hammer says:

    I am thinking no one is “funding” Dharma anymore. All of the computer and video tecknology is from the 80’s. If someone was still actively sending people to “run” Dharma, the equipment would be kept up to date. Although they haven’t explained the food drop from the Hurley flashback episode.

  462. Tasha says:

    Ok. I watched it and it didnt seem like that was the smae guy in the Looney Bin

    I have a question. Not sure if this is from this show or something else I watched so PLEASE if anyone knows what I am talking about please let me know the episode or something..

    Was there a part where someone pulled out I think it was 2 gemstones. I remember some gemstones in somebody’s hand and can’t remember where or when. problem is I have been watching Season 1 as well and it could have been in that.

    Also, did anybody notice the picture while the two Portugese/whatever guys were playing Chess. There is an obvious Picture sitting right between them. i can’t make it out on the show but if anyone knows how to get screenshots maybe I can look closer??

  463. darstar says:

    [quote comment=”2918″]I don’t know if anyone has said this yet, but it is strange that Henry et al wanted Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley (by their real names, two of which are unknown to the Losties). How did they get these names if the plane crash was a fluke? I have no answers…only questions![/quote]

    Because when Henry was captured in the hatch he got to know everyone’s name.

  464. darstar says:

    [quote comment=”3266″]Love the idea that the island may be covered in snow! Don’t forget, there were ravaged polar bears on the island in Season One. My husband’s theory: Penny’s dad is the guy funding the Dharma Initiative.[/quote]

    Ok, sorry, so this is an old theory. Perhaps Penny is just as evil as Daddy and she’s really not looking for Desmond after all. Perhaps she’s doing dad’s dirty work and works for the company, so to speak. She’s got the Portuguese guys who found out the island can be detected because the ELM has been breached and she needs to report back to the Whidmore corp. Also, how about this??? We know that Sun’s dad is some serious evil, big shooter kind of due. He’s bad. Maybe he is linked to Whidmore too?? Thoughts?

  465. darstar says:

    [quote comment=”3253″]YOu know what? I am starting to think Libby has nothing to do with the PLAN to get Desmond to the island. She was obviously going crazy cause her husband died and then she ended up in the nut house.[/quote]

    Didn’t Libby say her husband’s name was “Dave”? Wasn’t that Hurley’s crazy guy invisible friend’s name?

  466. darstar says:

    [quote comment=”3234″]Eko bought a house in hawaii, and, as far as i know, he hasn’t moved out….i’m guessing he’s still alive going into season 3.

    Also, any idea when the season 2 Lost series comes out on DVD?[/quote]

    Apparently October (I can’t wait that long!!)

  467. Hammer says:

    I like the thought of Sun’s father being tied in to Dharma. But I do think that Penny is looking for Desmond, she has the picture next to her bed. She may work for daddy, but she is definately looking for her lost love.

    Also, fake Henry wasn’t able to tell his group the 4 names while he was still being held in the hatch. So the “others” got the names via spying.

  468. donyab says:

    [quote comment=”3228″]The Others acted like it didn’t even matter when they saw that. Like it was nothing. Henry just started talking to micheal…like Hellooo?? Did anybody just see and hear that? That whole part was a little ODD.

    Also…still nobody seems to care that Charlie KILLED ETHAN. If they wanted the people that have killed, why didn’t they take Charlie? These people obviously have worked in the Hatches because that is where Claire first saw Alex. Then they just All up and abandoned that Hatch.[/quote]

    Citing Miguel’s point about the abandoned notebooks and Tasha’s point about the Others having worked in the hatches leads me to think that the Others who said that they are the “good guys” means that the Others may have all started out as participants in the Dharma Initiative experiments at one time or another. When their time was up they learned what the whole Dharma Initiative/Whidmore project was really about and realized it was either evil or a joke and they rebelled. Realizing their rebellion meant that they’d never be able to leave the island because Dharma/Whidmore was their only ticket home, they banned together to thwart future experiments in any way possible. Remember, too, that Rousseau was originally part of a scientific experiment team on the island. Perhaps her team was composed of the scientists observing the experiments and who worked for the Dharma Initiative and perhaps the Others were against it, hence a split off and Rousseau’s distrust of them. IMHO!

  469. Tasha says:

    [quote comment=”3270″][quote comment=”2918″]I don’t know if anyone has said this yet, but it is strange that Henry et al wanted Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley (by their real names, two of which are unknown to the Losties). How did they get these names if the plane crash was a fluke? I have no answers…only questions![/quote]

    Because when Henry was captured in the hatch he got to know everyone’s name.[/quote]

    But he WAS STILL in the Hatch when she their names were added to the List. Which means he didn’t give it to them. They already had it.

  470. Tasha says:

    Ok did anybody see an episode with some Gems???? Rocks maybe???

  471. Steve says:

    [quote comment=”3277″]Ok did anybody see an episode with some Gems???? Rocks maybe???[/quote]

    Nope, must’ve been a different show.

    [quote comment=”3272″]Didn’t Libby say her husband’s name was “Dave”? Wasn’t that Hurley’s crazy guy invisible friend’s name?[/quote]

    Yes, she said “David,” and I think there is a definite connection there.
    I wonder if maybe she escaped from the asylum, but is still crazy, and then she ran into Desmond and gave her boat away cause she’s nuts. I’m not too keen on the “Libby works for Hanso/Dharma” theory.
    Charles Widmore must be very well known all around the world, like a fictional Sir Richard Branson. When Desmond showed her the brochure she seemed to recognize him/his name, without much surprise that he’d sponsor such a competition.

  472. termal12 says:

    Just an idea, what if they were in Atlantis?
    The Statue, the energy from EM, the ship in the jungle…

  473. Hammer says:

    Has anyone looked at past episodes to see if any of the others only have four toes when they walk around bare footed?

  474. Julie says:

    [quote comment=”3211″][quote comment=”3190″][quote comment=”2854″]I do not believe for a second that Walt and Michael are free. (Michael has some payback coming now too.) Good call who ever it was that opined Not-Henry was in charge. Not-Henry wanted Locke to quit pressing the button right? But it seems he is most interested in staying hidden so that is confusing. I am betting that Widmore paid Libby to offer Des the boat. (I wonder what else she did?) Does that mean the Others are against Dharma (I always thought they were)but not sure how they fit. Do they need to stay hidden to damage Hanso Foundation without losing their lives? So does that mean they are recruiting Jack, Kate and Sawyer? I am still stuck on the time warp thing…could they be from the future?…the past? Looks like Jack and Kate (and Sawyer??) have a plan cooked up with the eyes closing thing – I am sure that will be good. I am guessing that Locke, Eko and Desmond are ok but what kind of shape are they in? Have they now been exposed to radiation or something similar? (Looks like we are going to have to research EMT.) Dude, Hurley is going to tell…. I cannot wait to watch this again…It is going to be a long summer and to coin a phrase heard here… “they are going to need a bigger boat”! Loved the answers and the new questions. Best show on TV![/quote]
    Great theory on the Libby/Dad Widmore thing, i bet your’e right. Libby is bad, and fate paid her back by sending her to the island cuz she set up Desmond[/quote]
    Honestly , i think Walt and Michael are done… the other say they’re the good guys? and what have they did wrong to prove themselves wrong? so i think they are gone home now, because Walk is a kid, and he has school… notice he wasnt on many episodes this year?[/quote]

    Okay.. maybe this is a spoiler.. but not really as its public knowledge.
    The child that plays Walt was on a morning radio show here in AZ the day before the finale. They asked ‘so… can you tell us if you know anything that we would want to know. you dont have to tell us what it is.. but just if you know something’ and he said ‘honestly…. no…cause i dont know what you know..’ and laughed.
    They asked if he would be back for the third season and he said yes definately. He said that it was good to be back with the cast mates and that he had missed them the past year.
    So… hes definately not done.

  475. Hammer says:

    [quote comment=”3277″]Ok did anybody see an episode with some Gems???? Rocks maybe???[/quote]

    I seem to remember Charlie taking a couple of small baggies of heroine out of his pocket a while back. Maybe that’s what your thinking of?

  476. Joel says:

    I can’t beleive I read through all 400+ of these posts! I wish that some of the posters would as well, to keep the junk off. Question: was Sayid shown on the boat with Jin and Sun when everyone was holding thier ears? If so, when did he go back to the boat? He was scouting around on the island, supposedly building the signal fire…
    Second question: Just like some have mentioned Jack’s look at Kate near the end, I saw Sun making some funny looks to Jin throughout the show. Do you think the two of them are plotting to try to use the boat to get away? The actors on this show do a lot with their eye/body language.
    Third question: I don’t know if the bird said Hurley’s name or not, but so what? Will Hurley be “in charge” when he returns to camp without Jack and Sawyer?
    Fourth question: What IS the deal with Charlie? I cannot understand his attitude when he returned to the campfire.

    To whomever wrote about the ’80s gear. The washer and dryer were “New”. Remember Libby asking that? They even put that scene into the season recap that aired just before the finale.

  477. Hammer says:

    [quote comment=”3284″][quote comment=”3211″][quote comment=”3190″][quote comment=”2854″]I do not believe for a second that Walt and Michael are free. (Michael has some payback coming now too.) Good call who ever it was that opined Not-Henry was in charge. Not-Henry wanted Locke to quit pressing the button right? But it seems he is most interested in staying hidden so that is confusing. I am betting that Widmore paid Libby to offer Des the boat. (I wonder what else she did?) Does that mean the Others are against Dharma (I always thought they were)but not sure how they fit. Do they need to stay hidden to damage Hanso Foundation without losing their lives? So does that mean they are recruiting Jack, Kate and Sawyer? I am still stuck on the time warp thing…could they be from the future?…the past? Looks like Jack and Kate (and Sawyer??) have a plan cooked up with the eyes closing thing – I am sure that will be good. I am guessing that Locke, Eko and Desmond are ok but what kind of shape are they in? Have they now been exposed to radiation or something similar? (Looks like we are going to have to research EMT.) Dude, Hurley is going to tell…. I cannot wait to watch this again…It is going to be a long summer and to coin a phrase heard here… “they are going to need a bigger boat”! Loved the answers and the new questions. Best show on TV![/quote]
    Great theory on the Libby/Dad Widmore thing, i bet your’e right. Libby is bad, and fate paid her back by sending her to the island cuz she set up Desmond[/quote]
    Honestly , i think Walt and Michael are done… the other say they’re the good guys? and what have they did wrong to prove themselves wrong? so i think they are gone home now, because Walk is a kid, and he has school… notice he wasnt on many episodes this year?[/quote]

    Okay.. maybe this is a spoiler.. but not really as its public knowledge.
    The child that plays Walt was on a morning radio show here in AZ the day before the finale. They asked ‘so… can you tell us if you know anything that we would want to know. you dont have to tell us what it is.. but just if you know something’ and he said ‘honestly…. no…cause i dont know what you know..’ and laughed.
    They asked if he would be back for the third season and he said yes definately. He said that it was good to be back with the cast mates and that he had missed them the past year.
    So… hes definately not done.[/quote]

    I don’t think it’s a spoiler…the way he rode off staring at Jack and the others…not showing us the “plan” Jack had…they might as well have printed on the bottom of the screen “Michael and Walt will be back!”.

  478. Hammer says:

    [quote comment=”3286″]I can’t beleive I read through all 400+ of these posts! I wish that some of the posters would as well, to keep the junk off. Question: was Sayid shown on the boat with Jin and Sun when everyone was holding thier ears? If so, when did he go back to the boat? He was scouting around on the island, supposedly building the signal fire…
    Second question: Just like some have mentioned Jack’s look at Kate near the end, I saw Sun making some funny looks to Jin throughout the show. Do you think the two of them are plotting to try to use the boat to get away? The actors on this show do a lot with their eye/body language.
    Third question: I don’t know if the bird said Hurley’s name or not, but so what? Will Hurley be “in charge” when he returns to camp without Jack and Sawyer?
    Fourth question: What IS the deal with Charlie? I cannot understand his attitude when he returned to the campfire.

    To whomever wrote about the ’80s gear. The washer and dryer were “New”. Remember Libby asking that? They even put that scene into the season recap that aired just before the finale.[/quote]

    Good point on the washer and dryer…still makes you wonder why it’s been so long since someone picked up the journals from the tube. Unless they were never intended to be picked up, pretty risky to just leave them in pile on the island.

  479. Hammer says:

    Joel,

    I noticed the Jin/Sun eye communication too. Assumeing Locke isn’t dead, he will become leader for awhile…if he’s alive his confidence in the island will definately be restored.

    I thought Charlie’s behavior was very odd too. Seemed very giggly and child like after almost getting killed. Weird.

  480. gastrognome says:

    Why are all these Age of Enlightenment philosphers name’s keep coming up.

    Hume – the skeptic.
    Locke – free will
    Rosseau – the social contract

    any ideas? Have I missed names?

  481. Eddie says:

    [quote comment=”3290″]Why are all these Age of Enlightenment philosphers name’s keep coming up.

    Hume – the skeptic.
    Locke – free will
    Rosseau – the social contract

    any ideas? Have I missed names?[/quote]

    Actualy the names go perfect with the hidden images in the background. Wraith (smoke creature), goliath (4 toed giant), all referenced in the works of the enlightened philosophers. It all fits hand in hand….

  482. Hammer says:

    [quote comment=”3291″][quote comment=”3290″]Why are all these Age of Enlightenment philosphers name’s keep coming up.

    Hume – the skeptic.
    Locke – free will
    Rosseau – the social contract

    any ideas? Have I missed names?[/quote]

    Actualy the names go perfect with the hidden images in the background. Wraith (smoke creature), goliath (4 toed giant), all referenced in the works of the enlightened philosophers. It all fits hand in hand….[/quote]

    I see where you are going with this. I’m having a brain cramp though…how is Hume ref. on the show?

  483. Julie says:

    [quote comment=”3277″]Ok did anybody see an episode with some Gems???? Rocks maybe???[/quote]

    Its in the episode that Kate and Jack go to the caves. The gems are on the bodies of ‘adam and eve’.

  484. Alii says:

    If the electromagnetic field influences the points on the compass, how will Michael and Walt get to the rescue team??

  485. Alii says:

    I noticed that look with Jack and Kate too at the end of the episode, any ideas on what’s going on there?

  486. chris says:

    Libby was in the mental institute because she couldn’t handle the death of her husband if you ask me.
    Her mental instability would also be the reason she gave the boat to desmond.

  487. Tasha says:

    [quote comment=”3294″][quote comment=”3277″]Ok did anybody see an episode with some Gems???? Rocks maybe???[/quote]

    Its in the episode that Kate and Jack go to the caves. The gems are on the bodies of ‘adam and eve’.[/quote]

    Thanks. I need to go watch that. If the stones happened to be Amber or a couple of other gems then my theory is still playing in this.

    I read they ended the Finale the way they did so that some Theories will go out the door. They are not in an experiment and they are not in Pergutory.

    I still sticking by all my theories. Thanks for the Cave thing!

  488. Hammer says:

    [quote comment=”3301″][quote comment=”3294″][quote comment=”3277″]Ok did anybody see an episode with some Gems???? Rocks maybe???[/quote]

    Its in the episode that Kate and Jack go to the caves. The gems are on the bodies of ‘adam and eve’.[/quote]

    Thanks. I need to go watch that. If the stones happened to be Amber or a couple of other gems then my theory is still playing in this.

    I read they ended the Finale the way they did so that some Theories will go out the door. They are not in an experiment and they are not in Pergutory.

    I still sticking by all my theories. Thanks for the Cave thing![/quote]

    I’ll bite…what is your theory?

  489. Eddie says:

    [quote comment=”3295″]If the electromagnetic field influences the points on the compass, how will Michael and Walt get to the rescue team??[/quote]
    They wont. Michael is a very vengful man as seen in his flashback as well as throughout the show. I feel as though michael will come back to the island for revenge on the “others.”

  490. Eddie says:

    [quote comment=”3293″][quote comment=”3291″][quote comment=”3290″]Why are all these Age of Enlightenment philosphers name’s keep coming up.

    Hume – the skeptic.
    Locke – free will
    Rosseau – the social contract

    any ideas? Have I missed names?[/quote]

    Actualy the names go perfect with the hidden images in the background. Wraith (smoke creature), goliath (4 toed giant), all referenced in the works of the enlightened philosophers. It all fits hand in hand….[/quote]

    I see where you are going with this. I’m having a brain cramp though…how is Hume ref. on the show?[/quote]
    access this site:

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hume/#Treatise

    The site is a background of Hume and his works. The reference in the show is not a physical reference but a plot reference. On the web if you go to the Hanso site what you see is only an illusion and can be seen on other sites. This is proven by the use of the optical illusion on the Bigspaceship site refferenced here:

    http://carolyn925.livejournal.com/7419.html?view=50171#t50171

    At the very top of the page the originator placed a link to the bigspaceship site as well as a reference as to what the site used to contain before its contence was modified to say time god, which was Cronos found in greek mythology. The second link on the page refferences a .gif image “rotosnake” which is an optical illusion. Which is where the illusion reference comes into play inreguards to Hume.

  491. Tasha says:

    I meant Rubies. I have the theory they are on a Lost Continent. THe stones weren’t rubies.

    But I did pick up they were Black and White Gems…like in the ancient Game Locke was teaching Walt.

  492. Deb says:

    [quote comment=”2812″]What was up with libby in the insane asylum several episode ago with hurley?
    Any theories??[/quote]

    I’m thinking that she went into the psych hospital because of depression over her husband’s death. . .she seemed very emotionally fragile when she was talking to Desmond in the cafe.

  493. Julie says:

    Okay.. so we’re all taking what Libby said to Desmond at face value?
    Maybe shes just a sociopath ontop of being a nut job. I mean ‘Dave’ being her husband and ALSO being the name of Hurleys ‘friend’?? Come on.
    Maybe shes just crazy and latched onto Dave in some way. When she got out she made up a whole false identity. Thats what sociopaths do.
    Im still on the idea that Libby isnt completely innocent. I think that shes either got a Widmore connection or an “other” connection. We never saw her on the plane… or in the airport in anyone elses flash backs. Just about everyone can be tied to someone else either on the plane or in the airport… except her. EVEN Ana-Lucia.
    This is a crap theory…. but I think that she may be a crazy little Widmore daughter who got locked away.

  494. mikey says:

    did anybody think that the guy who desmond killed was inside the hospital hatch, the guy who peeked through the door and said something to ethan?

    I think that Locke will try and hunt down the other hatches and complete the work in there.

  495. Hammer says:

    [quote comment=”3305″][quote comment=”3293″][quote comment=”3291″][quote comment=”3290″]Why are all these Age of Enlightenment philosphers name’s keep coming up.

    Hume – the skeptic.
    Locke – free will
    Rosseau – the social contract

    any ideas? Have I missed names?[/quote]

    Actualy the names go perfect with the hidden images in the background. Wraith (smoke creature), goliath (4 toed giant), all referenced in the works of the enlightened philosophers. It all fits hand in hand….[/quote]

    I see where you are going with this. I’m having a brain cramp though…how is Hume ref. on the show?[/quote]
    access this site:

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hume/#Treatise

    The site is a background of Hume and his works. The reference in the show is not a physical reference but a plot reference. On the web if you go to the Hanso site what you see is only an illusion and can be seen on other sites. This is proven by the use of the optical illusion on the Bigspaceship site refferenced here:

    http://carolyn925.livejournal.com/7419.html?view=50171#t50171

    At the very top of the page the originator placed a link to the bigspaceship site as well as a reference as to what the site used to contain before its contence was modified to say time god, which was Cronos found in greek mythology. The second link on the page refferences a .gif image “rotosnake” which is an optical illusion. Which is where the illusion reference comes into play inreguards to Hume.[/quote]

    Thanks.

  496. +nate says:

    okay guys, i’m terribly sorry but i have a BUTTLOAD of questions/comments/general observations to make. hopefully i can become one person who’s posts the people on this blog can look forward to reading. some people have been writing some point-blank stupid stuff. if it’s sincere, i love reading it…but the random questions people post after they’ve been answered 13 times already is quite nerve racking. anyhow…here’s my laundry list. some of these have been referenced before, some have not. i’ll try to keep them short so you don’t have to read forever to get the point, but i’d like to add that while some of the points have been made previously, i’m trying to put a fresh spin on them. so here you all go…i’d appreciate hearing some feedback on what i’ve come up with.

    – i noticed in the orientation video that desmond watches repeatedly that the dr. candle says that button has only had to be pushed SINCE the incident. implying they were on the island doing something other than pushing the button at one time. this makes me wonder what that would have been. it seemed that until now the purpose of the swan was to be the hatch where the button-pusher “experiment?” was taking place…but dr. candle says quite clearly that “now (or since the incident), the numbers must be entered every 108 minutes……….etc.”. i don’t know. something to this…what was the purpose before the incident?

    – next, we find out briefly what exactly the incident was when desmond goes below with kelvin. desmond asks about the incident and kelvin responds that it was “electromagnetism…….geologically unique” and goes on to say there was a leak and that is what started the button pushing. this confirms what is implied in the orientation video, but MUCH more interesting than this is how kelvin starts his drunken explanation out. “geologically unique” TOTALLY implies that the magnetic force on the island is native TO the island. up until now i believe there has been some speculation as to whether the magnet was placed on this island by dharma for experimental purposes or if dharma chose this location because the magnet was already there and the properties were so intriguing. the explanation from kelvin mos deff implies the latter of those two options which explains a lot about some ideas that have been being thrown around lately. the magnetic forces could totally be the reason the island is unknown both by radar, or being randomly found until now…could also be where the statue came from, i.e. an ancient civilization who found and exploited the magnets energy….the list goes on.

    – another interesting thing that i don’t believe ANYONE has commented on yet is what kelvin tells desmond when he’s asked why there are parts missing from the orientation film. desmond simply answers “rezinski made some edits”. what the HECK does that mean? why in the world…would someone stuck in a hatch, edit the only piece of instruction they, or the ones following them would ever have? this makes no sense and i HAVE to think this will be elaborated on one day. man…this one’s driving me nuts.

    – about 4-toed foot/leg. i know some people have already said some of this, but i believe there are a few things that are important here. it appears to me that it must have been a full statue at one time. when i rewatched the episode i noticed that it looks like it was built on a platform and i’m inclined to think that it was built right where it is. the left side of the platform totally looks broken as does the top of the half-leg. the statue is definitely not animal, as someone else commented already…it’s wearing leather thong sandals, much like those worn in ancient civilizations. while this is not my area of expertise, it is interesting to note the fact that we now know the magnet has been on the island, presumably native to it, and now we have a statue of someone wearing leather sandals, and with four toes. sure looks like we may be going this direction.

    – another kelvin quote that’s interesting. desmond wakes up…goes through the joke asking test…then says “where’s my boat?” to which kelvin replies “i found you washed up on the beach, there was no boat”. did he find the boat later, or was he lying? interesting. also interesting is that at one point during the flashbacks, when kelvin is painting the map on the back of the blast door desmond says “i’ve been down here in this hatch for 2 years already” which would suggest he wasn’t down there too much longer until the losties came. my guess is less than a year allowing for time lapses.

    – the hatch is definitely not from the 80’s as someone else stated, along with libby herself. there’s a new washer and dryer set that have just come out since 2000.

    – charlie was acting so weird to locke about desmond in the woods. i can’t be sure, but i wouldn’t be surprised if charlie thinks eko and locke (along with desmond) all died. he felt completely abandoned by all of those guys and his friendship with eko was only recently rekindled, but he betrayed him again at the end by pushing charlie away from him while charlie was trying to help and telling eko to “wake up”. eko does wake up with charlie’s help, but then proceeds to push charlie away and go back in to the computer. i literally have no idea what charlies real problem is, but i wouldn’t be surprised if his “they didn’t come back yet?” question was nothing more than a sarcastic sympathy question. i’m not sure he really cared about any of them at that point…especially since he’s got claire back. (charlie is about to become jack’s brother in-law…hahahahahaha)

    – quick note. september 22nd is when the losties plane crashed…think that has anything to do with september 11th? the 11 is obviously just doubled. thought maybe that was some type of subliminal there.

    – this could be nothing, but i noticed once michael is called out by jack in the woods and jack asks him “who are they?” michael says “it’s like i said, they live in a camp with huts” – to which jacks shakes his head no quickly. now, i can see jack doing this, so i know it happens…i’m just not sure why. he was doing 1 of 2 things. he was either saying “no, this is too much, we can’t trust you about anything anymore” or he was saying “no, they don’t…and i know it…and this is part of my plan as well”

    – which brings my to my next point that sayid and jin will either follow the “listies” or attempt to rescue them before they leave with the others. i would HAVE to think that jack and sayid would put a clause in the plan that said that if jack didn’t bring the rest of them to the camp (smoke) within an alloted amount of time, then sayid and jin should sail around the island further or come look for them. they had to know that michael may lead them AWAY from the others camp. but yeah, as far as the speculation goes…i highly doubt there are false floors or more to that camp than an aesthetic fake. it is strange to think about why they had to build that in the first place though…considering the fact that they only seem to be there when they know someone is coming. hmmmmm………

    – about henry. i am SOOOOO not convinced henry is the leader. if he is, there really aren’t many of the others at all and he has to get in and do the dirty work with them. however…if he is alvar hanso, or even a higher-up in the hanso corporation, or EVEN the leader of the others and there are a decent amount of them….i find it a little strange that he would be out braving the elements and looking like crap just to be part of one of his/the company’s multiple experiments. any leader of any group of some size would totally have someone else doing the work and reporting back. i’m not ruling out the possibility that henry is NOT the leader, but i’m having a hard time coming to grips with it. especially henry being alvar. this is totally implausible unless something went wrong somewhere and that’s why he hasn’t been spotted in so long. again, highly doubtful. note – by henry i actually mean not-henry. lol.

    – “we got more than we bargained for when walt joined us”. this one is still weird. he sorta laughs as he says this. like..chuckles. so strange. i have no ideas here.

    – here’s an interesting theory i need to build a little more. but i think this could be something. the bright light which we all assumed happened AFTER the key was turned was probably what was happening during. what i mean is this…while everyone was looking up at the sky and covering their ears (which i thought was interesting…they looked at the light, but covered their ears) i believe this was actually DURING the whole electromagnet build-up sequence where everything metal in the hatch was being sucked toward the wall behind which the magnet is located. once the key was turned…it simply stopped, likewise, with the light. there was no explosion. there was a progressively building hum, that corresponds with the one in the hatch, then the key is turned…everything returns back to normal. so while it’s interesting to note that there was NO explosion, it’s also interesting to note that whatever the magnet was doing…it was manifesting it UP in the sky. soooooo, while it may have been too much for the magnet to actually pull a plane out of the sky with magnetic force…it may have been plenty for a plane to get ripped in half/whatever if it flew straight through or into whatever was going on in that light in the sky. the only part i’m not really understanding is why the quarantine hatch came flying out of the sky…but at this point i think that returned to earth after being blasted into the air by the dynamite explosion inside the hatch. wow…too much thinking. but this is really something huge i feel. i can’t wait to see next season’s first episode…hopefully they will play back what happened through a different perspective. i’m anxious to see what really happened in the sky/after the key was turned. i don’t think anyone died…i’m almost positive. anyhow, i believe the key does almost the exact same thing as entering the numbers. there almost has to be a second way to stop the magnet.

    – okay. now…we always talk about whether the button is actually saving the world/not saving the world…or if it’s real on not. here’s my answer: the button is real. if it weren’t real, we wouldn’t be able to see the effects of NOT pushing it. the effects of NOT pushing the button are bad, either way you look at it. forks, knives, darts, other sharp metal objects flying toward the magnet??….that’s pretty real to me. HOWEVER, i’m not at all convinced that not pushing the button will end the world/etc. the others were frightened, but not shocked by the light. they didn’t like what was happening, but didn’t seem TOO shocked that what was happening…was happening. i think it’s obviously something they know isn’t good, or at least isn’t good on their ears….but not something that is catastrophic (to the island anyway) otherwise they would have all jumped in the water/boat/air/whatever and did anything possible to get the heck out of there. they didn’t though. they simply waited it out, albeit in pain, and then proceeded after it was done. more than this…it would be inconceivable to think of an experiment or even an experiment, turned real after an “incident” that would depend on test subjects to save the world. or save anything important for that matter. dharma would HAVE to be the ones pushing the button themselves if it was this important. again, stated before by others…..but almost an unavoidable fact now.

    – well, we all know about jack and kate’s look by now. but BEFORE that look, and something that almost makes me certain that the “listies” are up to something, is that hugo looks at jack when miss klugh (dee, bee?) tells him to go back to the camp and keep the rest from ever coming to “this place”….and jack clearly nods as if to say “yes, we’re still going to be alright…go back”. thought that was very important. jack is the self-proclaimed man with the plan, after all. i’m inclined to think they have a plan for sure. again, this almost definitely involves jin and sayid.

    – i’ve noticed some people talking about the possibility of pen NOT looking for desmond. that’s not what’s going on. she’s definitely looking for dezzy. his picture IS still by her bed, right by the phone she answers at whatever time of night, and then the look she has on her face after the men on the other line tell her they found it makes it clear that they’re working for her. not her dad’s corporation. and it’s for the reason of finding her beloved desmond. if that weren’t enough to convince everyone…this should be. at the beginning of the show when she finds him the first time she says this quote: “with enough money and determination you can find anyONE”. not the emphasis on “one”. she could have said “with enough money and determination you can……do anything…….find anything…….etc” but she specifically said “find anyone”. there’s no one in the world that can tell me that this wasn’t foreshadowing. it was, and her line was super important there. i believe they may have even created that scene and shot it desperately simply for that effect. this is important, so don’t forget it. penny has found her desmond.

    – here’s a good one though. what’s up with these dudes that pen widmore hired to find the electromagnetic “anomaly” being in an ULTRA frigid climate? it would be suggested that the island is at least semi-close to this frigid ice-covered place, right? i mean, how much sense does it make to send a scientific search team out and post them up in northern alaska if you were searching for someone in columbus, ohio? it wouldn’t. so this brings in another possible theory that i’m not completely positive i even subscribe to yet, and that’s middle earth. the only believable or acceptable reason for me to think that someone in a frigid climate could find anyone in a tropical climate and still be remotely close to each other is if they were right on top of each other. aka…middle earth. the researchers are above them, they are on the inside of the earth. and the only reason this fits at all is because the supposed entries to middle earth are somewhere near the poles. interesting theory regardless, but how else would this make sense?

    – lastly….the computer screen read this right above the “electromagnetic anomaly detected” part “>/ 7418880″. i have NO idea what that means, but i’m posting it in case someone does. or could. please? lol.

    wow…alright…that’s it for me. hopefully that was less painful reading my uber-long post that reading some of the repetitive questions and nonsensical ones that have been being posted throughout this thread. hopefully we can put our heads together and come up with some really great ideas. thanks for reading…any responses absolutely welcome.

  497. Steve says:

    Wow +nate, that’s a lot of info!

    I like all of your thoughts except for the key/”light event”.
    It seems pretty clear after rewatching that scene that the “light event” doesn’t occur until after Desmond turns the key. Turn Key…click…bright lights and loud humming noise.
    Also, The Others DO appear surprised/confused by what is happening. Even -Henry…and especially Dee.

    They also made a point to repeat what Penny wrote in her note, as he was about to turn the key:

    “All we really need to survive is one person who truly loves us, and you have her. I will wait for you, always. I love you.”

    Someone else asked a while back if Sayid was on the boat with Jin/Sun during the “light event.” Yes, he was on the boat.

  498. Tasha says:

    Nate- Ok well as I have said, I believe they are in some ancient civilization. If you know anything about ancient times, they were very advanced in technology. Also while looking things up such as the Lost Continent of Mu you will find Location- Pacific Ocean- somewhere South and East of Fiji. But we have to think that it was Myth and because of the earth shirfting…we really don’t know. In ancient times they did believe and supposedly had magnetic poles in the earth.

    Here is some furthur reading on some of this.

    http://www.homestead.com/bodyreadings/files/Theoretical_Past.htm

    I’m not sure about the Middle Earth Theory. I don’t think they would be there unless they were actually frozen. But I feel like this island was frozen and maybe underwater at one time. That would explain the hatches?? In ancient times…they had places built underground.

  499. Julie says:

    Okay, I like to consider myself a smart person. With two BAs I can out witt most people.. but I feel like an idiot on this page sometimes. HAHA!
    ANYHOW, I realize that any kind of nuclear explosion would have killed everyone on the island but doesnt the sky turn purple like that during one?
    Is it possible that it was a controled nuclear explosion?

  500. Tasha says:

    As far as the bright light and rays….could it still be the Death Ray…the anti Matter Ray? I posted about it awhile back. YOu should read it:)

  501. LostinLost says:

    Funny you say that, I had a crazy dream a while back that the lost island had snow on it. And skiing! And a ski lift! The path off the island also involved going through the snow.I thought i was crazy till I saw the finale. But I think in actuality maybe the island is kinda in a bubble surrounded by snow, like desmond said about the snow globe. I always thought maybe the island was a small pocket of another time, when it was tropical.

  502. LostinLost says:

    [quote comment=”3318″]Funny you say that, I had a crazy dream a while back that the lost island had snow on it. And skiing! And a ski lift! The path off the island also involved going through the snow.I thought i was crazy till I saw the finale. But I think in actuality maybe the island is kinda in a bubble surrounded by snow, like desmond said about the snow globe. I always thought maybe the island was a small pocket of another time, when it was tropical.[/quote]

  503. Marj says:

    [quote comment=”2769″]but who is charles whidmore??[/quote]
    Penny’s father..

  504. LostinLost says:

    ok first of all, sorry that posted twice for some reason. On another topic, wouldn’t it be crazy if jack’s dad turned out to be alvar hanso? Maybe it isn’t possible, but it would make since..he says his son turned him in for drinking. And in that same convo he also said that he could “never go back”. Funny that fake henry said the same thing about never being able to get back to the island. And what if that guy speaking portugese was jack’s twin brother, and jack is the “bad twin” so to speak, leading them into a trap or being part of the plan somehow. What if “heir apparent” means that jack was heir to the throne in a way, like the throne of dharma. Too far fetched?

  505. Kristan says:

    Dude, you are totally wrong. Don’t you remember that Jack was running the stairs because his soon-to-be-wife was lying in the hospital with a shattered spine and he felt guilty?

    We were only just supposed to see the connection between why Desmond gives Jack the advice to “go for it” and why he believes in true love conquering all. That’s it. Penny Whitmore is not Jack’s ex.

    “ARE YOU PEOPLE BLIND??

    jESUS… YOU DIDNT EVEN MAKE THE BIG CONNECTION. DID YOU SEE desmond show up at the track. did you see who pulled up behind them? umm, ya that was jack. from when they met in season 1.

    Oh, since you don’t remember season 1. Let me rewind you. Did you remember how jack performed surgery on a girl? She had a fiance that left her and then she fell in love with Jack. Through many episodes later we found out that she eventually left Jack and we never knew why?

    Well that’s b/c she found good old desmond at the race track. PAM is jack’s ex-fiance and desmond’s long lost love. PAM has lost both Jack and Desmond from ‘mysterious’ disappearances and is now on the hunt for the island. How does she know there is an island?? well duh, he freakin father is running the show.”

  506. Marj says:

    [quote comment=”2825″]we still need a true decipher of the glyphs…. my degree is in general archaeology, not egyptology…[/quote]
    Check out the glyphs found in australia left by lost egyptian excursion 5000 yrs ago

  507. Tasha says:

    He was at the track while SHE was in the hospital. There is NO WAY that Penny and Sara are the same people.

  508. Kristan says:

    Bermuda Triangle!! Explains why plains and boats disappear…also, why he told Michael that they can leave but not find their way back…you can’t find your way “in” the Bermuda Triangle!!

    Except even a thousand miles off course they would be nowhere near Bermuda.

  509. Mike says:

    On a trans-Pacific flight from Sydney to Los Angeles, do aircraft fly over the South Pole?

  510. Andreas L says:

    Desmond – We are stuck in a bloody “snow” globe.
    Im not sure if this is a message from the writers, because this just cant be coincidence. As we have all seen, the Portugueses are located somewhere cold, somewhere where it snows.

    There is one more thing aswell: Polar Beers.
    Well, three things are connected here.

    Desmonds Frustration (Snow Globe)
    Portugueses Location
    Polar Beers at the Island

    This is a very vague thought. Just crossed my mind.
    I believe we have to see all the episodes from scratch to find clues, because everything is connected.

  511. matrixman says:

    I’m not sure if anyone pointed this out (if you did I’m sorry) but I see a lot of you talking about the electromagnetic pulse “sucking the plane down” or the magnet actually pulling the plane to the island. Some are also talking about small nuclear explosions. I’m far from an expert, but trust me a “small” nuclear explosion would blow that Island clean off the map. Having said that while the magnet pulled things to it the electromagnetic pulse is like an invisible explosion that would shut down anything electronic within it’s radius. the plane may not have been sucked in, but its whole electronics suite may have been temporarily fired, and that would certainly bring it down.
    P.S. Nuclear weapons give off the same type of pulse.

  512. Joanmarie says:

    I read somewhere that Jin and Sun have some connection to DHARMA…like their relatives were involved in it.

    I noticed the looks between Jin and Sun too. There is something up there. No way would Jin let a pregnant Sun go on that boat when they were going into a dangerous situation. Seemed like they had their own agenda and it did not involve sayid.

    Also read in the same article that Jack’s dad (remember he is a doctor) has a place in DHARMA as well.

    Any coincidence that the “Code phrase” Kelvin asks Desmond (Are you Him?…what did one snowman say to the other snowman?) has to do with “Snowman” like the two guys who got the signal that the “system failure” happened? they were “snowmen”
    also remember the “Snow globe” comment by Desmond.

    They looked like they were in a hatch as well. Maybe another DHARMA project hatch?

    My theory is that the magnetic buildup is what crashed all of the other planes/boats whether on purpose or by accident. Hanso found the island and set up experiemnts there. The others are all escapees of the experiments in the hatches either- employees or subjects themselves. I think the incident was some kind of sabotage of the system by these escapees so that they could get out. Alex (Rousseau’s daughter ) helped Claire get out of the medical hatch and I think there are two groups… “good ones”…the ones we have seen some of whom actually worked for DHARMA
    and the “Bad ones” the ones actually running DHARMA.

    I think they took Jack, Sawyer and Kate because they can help them overtake the Bad ones.

  513. Diana says:

    I stillhave not seen my comment regarding jack’s dad pounding on the door of a woman who looked remarkably like Claire while the said woman was holding a baby girl and jack’s dad wanting to see his daughter…. Jack and Claire bro and sis?….

    Also Could the Polar bear have traveled (been transported) from the Russian (Portuguese) tracking station where the hired hands are searching for ‘it’ (Desmond’s boat) for Penelope?

    Does any one else remember sawyer stating they were in a big snow globe? A world in water, surrounded by a protective sphere…

  514. Diana says:

    One more thing; the one obvious thing Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley have in common is they are the ones on the island who have seen Island Induced Visions. Eko also saw a vision, however, his was of a religious nature. Claire’s vision was of a “transported” Walt, (thats what made him so special, astral projection, or travel outside the body).

    Any thoughts to these observations…

  515. CAG says:

    Hello everyone,

    I’ve been lurking here for a while but felt compelled to post this, I think I’ve figured out the secret about the four toed foot.
    Anyone ever seen Spinal Tap? I think it went down like this:

    Writer: (to Special effects guy) We need a giant foot!

    Special Effects Guy: A giant foot?

    Writer: Yeah, a giant statue foot, like an ancient Greek god or something

    Special Effects Guy: A giant statue foot?

    Writer: Yeah, wearing a sandal.

    Special Effects Guy: Wearing a sandal?

    Writer: Yeah … like this … (grabs a napkin nearby and sketches a poorly drawn Flintstone-esque foot)

    Special Effects Guy: You want me to make a foot like this?

    Writer: Yeah, just like this … make it really big.

    Special Effects Guy: OK .. you’ve got it.

    Writer: (After seeing the giant foot on the set) This foot only has four toes!

    Special Effects Guy: That’s what you drew

    Writer: But it only has four toes! It’s like some kind of mutant foot!

    Special Effects Guy: I just did what you told me.

    Writer: It’s a complete catastrophe!

    … And after that, they had to write it into the script.

    What do you all think?

  516. LostDamery says:

    Wow, too many bad posts but lets have some good posts:
    1) The island is in another dimension/planet/earth layer that can only be accessed through the accident (opening the dam) the magnetic pulse creates a portal that pulls in ships planes from our real world into their globe world.
    2) The others at the end are one of many groups who have fractured from the experiments after the incident. Some good and some bad. Some are from the initiative but some are being pulled in from pulse portal.
    3) the real world can only detect the island portal when a pulse opens it and the portal happened to open this time in the Frozen region monitored by these portuegel fellas. The island is not hidden it is in another “place”.
    4) Locke, echo and Desmond where transported out of the island space into the frozen region and will be picked up before they die but desmond gets sucked back to the island after another Pulse created by another group of others…

    Got it?
    okay maybe I need to get out a little bit. Just one more time through season 1 and 2 looking for clues..or is it Klughes?

  517. +nate says:

    check it out….i figured out one of the questions from my ultra-super-long post.

    the number that appears on the computer screen with the men who call pen was:

    “>/7418880 – electromagnetic anomaly detected”

    4 x 8 x 15 x 16 x 23 x 42 = 7418880

    strange…and neat.
    i love this show.

  518. Mike says:

    what are the escape scenarios?

    I’ve read some already on this massive post. Any others? i’m posting mine and other people’s stuff.

    1. desmond, eko, and locke end up in the middle of the snow where the last episode left off; get help.
    2. penny organizes a rescue.
    3. lost cast are in a temporal snow globe in the middle of i don’t know where.
    4. gilligans island/survivor-type show where one group wins only when the other group is entirely killed
    5. Mike and Walt escape to the outside world or are “caught” by Saeed? or the Koreans? using the yacht/ rescued by …?
    6. other theories

  519. gc says:

    [quote comment=”3076″][quote comment=”2937″]does anyone here know what happend to the other kids that were kidnapped and why did the french girls daughter not come back?[/quote]

    I remember Danielle, the french woman, referred to her daughter as Alex. Last episode, there was a woman they called Alex with The Others group. Could be the same female Alex.[/quote]
    yes. I think it was already inferred. She helped Claire escape the medical facility where “Freckles” later found the fake beard and costumes…

  520. Love's Labor's Lost says:

    [quote comment=”3243″]Yeah…I was thinking maybe she was looking for someone else. I have watched the last 5 minutes like a 100 times. Somewhere before this episode I thought I heard Libby was married to Charles Whidmore. If this were true…that would make Libby her mother. This may not be true….I just remember seeing Libby was married to somebody in a spoiler.[/quote]

    Libby said her dead husband’s name was “David.” Have we heard of a character named David in the show before? Does he have any relation to Jack or Jack’s dad in the hospital?

  521. steve says:

    Here is my theory on the show. Stay with me now this can get intense!!

    OK it all starts with a man named Alvar Hanso. He was a man of faith. He loved all the world’s phenomenon. He also loved studing the way humans work. He grew up and went to college where ever it may have been and met a man. A man that would later become his best friend. This man’s name was Widmore. I forgot his first name, but his last name was Widmore. Widmore was a man of science. He also had the same fascination with the world’s phenomenon and he began to study it with his friend Alvar Hanso. Late in Life they became Partners in a single unkown company. This company did not last and due there scientific and faith based issues they split and even grew to hate each other. They became arch rivals and both tried to study the same thing. This was the South Pacific Green Flash. The Green Flash is a phenomenom in the sky that happens only on certain nights in certain areas of the the south pacific. This happens only for a few minutes before the sun sets. Alvar Hanso was looking for a secluded spot to do his studies and came upon a uninhabited island. This island is the island our Lost cast is on right now. Any back to Alvar Hanso. In order to claim the island as his he had a massive statue built of himself off the shore of the island pointed toward the Green Flash. Alvar Hanso spawned the Dharma Initiative through the Hanso Foundation. The dharma initiative were a group of extremely smart scientists such as Marvin Candle that Alvar Hanso hired to run multiple tests on the island. They tested many things such as the human pysche, zoology, electromagnetism, and much more. Widmore found out about this secret island and always would try to infiltrate the island and hack into his system whether it would be through a boat or in a ballon. That is why the ballon has the widmore logo on it. These test were a hige success. They made huge advances especially in the human psyche. They were even able to find out a way for a person to move things eventually very large things with there mind. he was able to move there thoughts pysically all around the island. These test subjects were even able to read minds. This was all fine and dandy until th incident. The incident which is unknown destroyed the dharma initiative and there were only a few that survived. These survivers are the others. Those people who were able to convert there thoughts into pyshical form were in that process and died in that process. there thoughts were stuck to roam the island and protect it. This is used by the others and it is the black cloud that roams around and kill of all the bad people as order by the others. This black smoke also read the mind of eko and we were able to see those thought inside the cloud as it was reading eko’s mind. The cloud was going to kill eko because it thought that he was originally a bad person via all the drug dealing and killing eko has done, but when it saw how he helped his brother and became a preist it decided to leave eko alone. This cloud is also responsible for the whispers and for all the illusions. As I said it takes on the form of the person’s thoughts. It was the polar bear that attacked michael and walt after walt read the comic with the polar bear. And in that flash back in that episode michael gave walt a polar bear doll right before he left. The smoke was also the horse that kate saw because there was a horse in kates flashback. And the smoke was hurley’s friend from the mental hospital. The smoke was also Jack’s father in the begining of season one. It is unknown how kelvin arrived on the island but we all know how desmond arrved on the island and why the lost cast is oon the island. Now it is all up to the show to unfold what happens next and all I know is that I can’t wait for season 3!!!!!!!!!!!!

  522. steve says:

    what you guys think

  523. Love's Labor's Lost says:

    +Nate–I have a couple of comments regarding your theories. You made some very good points. However, like another poster (Tasha?), we know that the hatch door (“quarantine”) soared through the air and almost hit Bernard and Claire AFTER the loud noise and light in the air, and presumably well after the dynamite was set off by Ecko. Second, while I agree that Charlie acted strangely when he went back to the beach, I just can’t buy that he simply washed his hands of everyone in the hatch. There just has to be another explanation. Third, I think Not-Henry IS in charge of the others, but I don’t think he is Alvar Hanso or in any other way in charge of the Dharma initiative. I go along with the other posters who think the Others are at odds with Dharma. This would also go along with Calvin referring to the Others to Desmond as the “hostiles” (hostile to the project).

    I have not read “Our Mutual Friend,” but I agree that it is significant. First, the title is significant. There are too many coincidences on the island. Too many of the castaways have “mutual friends.” In addition, here is a description of the novel:

    Our Mutual Friend, Dickens’ last novel, gives one of his most comprehensive and penetrating accounts of Victorian society. Its vision of a culture stifled by materialistic values emerges not just through its central narratives, but through its apparently incidental characters and scenes. The chief of its several plots centres on John Harmon who returns to England as his father’s heir. He is believed drowned under suspicious circumstances–a situation convenient to his wish for anonymity until he can evaluate Bella Wilfer whom he must marry to secure his inheritance. The story is filled with colourful characters and incidents–the faded aristocrats and parvenus gathered at the Veneering’s dinner table, Betty Higden and her terror of the workhouse and the greedy plottings of Silas Wegg.

    The John Harmon character might be representative of Jack. I don’t really know. Any ideas? Also, as for the quote long ago regarding the NPR interview with John Irving, as a long time Irving fan, I do know that a central theme throughout many of his novels is the interweaving of fate, destiny, and tragedy. He also includes bears a lot in his novels and there are many instances of unnatural affection between siblings. I have no evidence that there are any connections. These are just observations.

  524. n says:

    What I’m wondering is when the pilot (way back in season 1) said that they were way off course, could the island magnet have anything at all to do with that? (it’s been a while since I watched that one, forgive me if I’m wrong)

    My bet is that there was a convo between Jack and the group about what they were going to do once they got there after they shot the people tracking them. I’ll safely say we’re going to get a mini flashback about it.

    I don’t think the ‘snow’ details have any connection. I also think it would be silly for them to have an alternate world now, there has been hinting at sci-fi (smoke monster, walt in general) but I doubt they’ll do anything like that. I think it would exclude a large market of people to go all out like that, but that’s my opinion.

    I like the idea someone had about the goliath foot for the statue, Lost likes to pull in details from all kinds of myths and all kinds of cultures. Can anyone comfirm this? I looked and I didnt see anything about 4 toes.

    I don’t know about Pen doing all this for Des. I don’t think her having his picture is any real indication, he still had her picture after all these years. Knowing lost, it’s definately possible.

    About Libby using David’s name because of Hurley, why wouldn’t she just use Hurley’s name? It’s not like anyone would be the wiser anyway. I agree she was there because of the greif of her husbands death. I don’t know if there is a lot of mystery left around her character now that the link between her and Des was made. I wouldn’t expect much else from her in the show now =/

    I’m sorry this was so long, I’ve been bottling it up for a couple days and I couldn’t stand to read so many pointless posts in a row (seriously people, when the reply count passes 300+ just spare us your thoughts unless you’re actually contributing. that was a lot of frustrating nonsense to read)

  525. n says:

    Another quick thought about the season finale I don’t think anyone has mentioned. Was anyone else thinking about when Eko told Locke “don’t mistake coincidence with fate” complete roll reversal, eh?

  526. SpinPapi says:

    [quote comment=”3150″]Everyone, for the last time, the DUI’s had nothing to do with Ana Lucia and Libby getting killed. The scripts were written and finalized before the DUI incidents occurred. The writers and producers have gone on record saying this several different times.
    They worried that this might happen, that people would assume the convictions were the reason for the killings, but decided not to change the script because how they died was too integral to the remainder of this season and future seasons.[/quote]

    Yeah. And producers never lie! LOL

  527. Tasha says:

    [quote comment=”3358″][quote comment=”3243″]Yeah…I was thinking maybe she was looking for someone else. I have watched the last 5 minutes like a 100 times. Somewhere before this episode I thought I heard Libby was married to Charles Whidmore. If this were true…that would make Libby her mother. This may not be true….I just remember seeing Libby was married to somebody in a spoiler.[/quote]

    Libby said her dead husband’s name was “David.” Have we heard of a character named David in the show before? Does he have any relation to Jack or Jack’s dad in the hospital?[/quote]

    Dave was the name of the guy in the Looney Bin that gave Hurley the Evil Lottery Numbers. Don’t know if there is a connection at all.

  528. Diana says:

    [quote comment=”3362″]What I’m wondering is when the pilot (way back in season 1) said that they were way off course, could the island magnet have anything at all to do with that? (it’s been a while since I watched that one, forgive me if I’m wrong)

    My bet is that there was a convo between Jack and the group about what they were going to do once they got there after they shot the people tracking them. I’ll safely say we’re going to get a mini flashback about it.

    I don’t think the ‘snow’ details have any connection. I also think it would be silly for them to have an alternate world now, there has been hinting at sci-fi (smoke monster, walt in general) but I doubt they’ll do anything like that. I think it would exclude a large market of people to go all out like that, but that’s my opinion.

    I like the idea someone had about the goliath foot for the statue, Lost likes to pull in details from all kinds of myths and all kinds of cultures. Can anyone comfirm this? I looked and I didnt see anything about 4 toes.

    I don’t know about Pen doing all this for Des. I don’t think her having his picture is any real indication, he still had her picture after all these years. Knowing lost, it’s definately possible.

    About Libby using David’s name because of Hurley, why wouldn’t she just use Hurley’s name? It’s not like anyone would be the wiser anyway. I agree she was there because of the greif of her husbands death. I don’t know if there is a lot of mystery left around her character now that the link between her and Des was made. I wouldn’t expect much else from her in the show now =/

    I’m sorry this was so long, I’ve been bottling it up for a couple days and I couldn’t stand to read so many pointless posts in a row (seriously people, when the reply count passes 300+ just spare us your thoughts unless you’re actually contributing. that was a lot of frustrating nonsense to read)[/quote]

    Speaking of frustrating non sense and having to read more non original thoughts….

    I feel insulted!

    The idea of Walt being astrally projected to the outside of the Losties campsite (being seen by Claire) was a thought not yet read here….anywhere in 200+ postings, (nor discussed since posting…) Astral projection could be what makes him so special to the Others….

    Please do not be insulting, it is just not nice… :o)

  529. silvewind says:

    [quote comment=”3308″]We never saw her on the plane… or in the airport in anyone elses flash backs. Just about everyone can be tied to someone else either on the plane or in the airport… except her. EVEN Ana-Lucia.

    Are you forgetting the last episode on Eko where he is talking to the Australian girl. the girl is talking to him about Eko’s brother and then Libby appears in back of them asking “is everything ok here?”

  530. silvewind says:

    One thing no one has brought up yet . . . what did the “others girl” mean when she told Hurley his “job was done here?” Any takers??

  531. Angel says:

    Just a quick theory… Penny Widmore, I think there is reason to believe she might be the mysterious Persophone. She seems to have a reason to not like her father (Mr. Widmore) and his relationship with the Hanso people. Just a thought.

  532. Nikanj says:

    I may be late on this, but consider this. If the plane was brought down because the electromagnetic charge built up, then the plane clearly came down as an accident. There was no way anyone could have predicted what Desmond did (follow buddy outside and then not make it back in time to press the button.)

    Now, if the plane crashed accidentally then it follows that they were not brought to the island on purpose. Why, then, were all these people, who had clear connections before meeting on the island (Sawyer & Jack’s dad, Hurley & Libby etc etc) on the plane together? Were they being brought somewhere else?

    I believe one of two things (not sure which, yet)

    1. The plane WAS NOT brought down by Desmond forgetting to push the button. It was something else that brought it down, on purpose.

    2. The plane WAS brought down by Desmond not pushing the button, but all these people were on it for another reason. They were being taken somewhere else, together. Where and why are the questions, though.

  533. Darren Triller says:

    My theory on all of this is 2-fold:
    1. Part 1: electromagnetism – island is special location (similar to spot of attempted healing for Rose in australia, but even better).
    2. Genetics: some of the people (Walt especially, but also hurley, Jack, Locke, Rose and Freckles) are genetically unique- perhaps all on the flight are, but maybe just the key characters
    3. Combination of right people on right spot on island makes special combination- mental powers, telekinesis, etc (crash plane on purpose, manipulate things, etc)
    4. Combination of “bad” person (anna lucia) and right spot could be ultimate bad person= end of world
    5. Combination of good person/people and spot (Walt, or other) = incredible good of world
    6. Henry and others are part of project looking for right people so can save word
    7. Group of monied bad people (Korean rich dad, others) are funding bad guys to find it and take over world (i.e. competing sets of “others”). Would make Henry believe he’s one of the good guys, and would explain why some of the early others were physically dangerous (nathan) while these others seem passive, perhaps with hired vigilantes for protection (dumb guys on boats)

    Love the show.

  534. Love's Labor's Lost says:

    [quote comment=”3380″]One thing no one has brought up yet . . . what did the “others girl” mean when she told Hurley his “job was done here?” Any takers??[/quote]

    I thought she simply meant that Hurley’s job in the Others’ presence was done–his real purpose in coming along at all was to go back to the Losties and warn them away from the Others.

  535. Tasha says:

    [quote comment=”3385″]I may be late on this, but consider this. If the plane was brought down because the electromagnetic charge built up, then the plane clearly came down as an accident. There was no way anyone could have predicted what Desmond did (follow buddy outside and then not make it back in time to press the button.)

    Now, if the plane crashed accidentally then it follows that they were not brought to the island on purpose. Why, then, were all these people, who had clear connections before meeting on the island (Sawyer & Jack’s dad, Hurley & Libby etc etc) on the plane together? Were they being brought somewhere else?

    I believe one of two things (not sure which, yet)

    1. The plane WAS NOT brought down by Desmond forgetting to push the button. It was something else that brought it down, on purpose.

    2. The plane WAS brought down by Desmond not pushing the button, but all these people were on it for another reason. They were being taken somewhere else, together. Where and why are the questions, though.[/quote]

    I had been pondering this for days now! That makes more sense to me. Not only the people on the plane but Desmond as well, had a reason to be there.

    AS I have been saying, this can go back to ancient times…read the page below and where Sacred Geometry is highlighted, click on it. Then you will see the picture from the Hanso commercials.

    But in this article you will see how everyone has a genetic number. Pay close attention to this phrase and paragraph its in.

    “You will have to seek new friends of like mind who are also being triggered by the digits.”

    Here is theb link

    http://www.crystalinks.com/11.11.html

  536. Diana says:

    [quote comment=”3385″]I may be late on this, but consider this. If the plane was brought down because the electromagnetic charge built up, then the plane clearly came down as an accident. There was no way anyone could have predicted what Desmond did (follow buddy outside and then not make it back in time to press the button.)

    Now, if the plane crashed accidentally then it follows that they were not brought to the island on purpose. Why, then, were all these people, who had clear connections before meeting on the island (Sawyer & Jack’s dad, Hurley & Libby etc etc) on the plane together? Were they being brought somewhere else?

    I believe one of two things (not sure which, yet)

    1. The plane WAS NOT brought down by Desmond forgetting to push the button. It was something else that brought it down, on purpose.

    2. The plane WAS brought down by Desmond not pushing the button, but all these people were on it for another reason. They were being taken somewhere else, together. Where and why are the questions, though.[/quote]

    I have watched the plane crash scenes several times in search of answers to this same ponderance. The black (mind reading?) smoke monster was in several scenes with the plane crashing…. One has to really look for it and watch closely as it is a fleeting (retreating) glance. This would lead to one to beliving the plane was brought down to the island on purpose, but by who and whose thoughts wer controling/directing the monster and for what purpose….?

    Any comment?

  537. Lesley says:

    Now that I have watched it a couple of times and read a bit on EM (that is heavy stuff – yikes) here are my two cents:

    1. Libby works for Widmore (still not sure why she was in Aussie land).
    2. The fail-safe was meant to AVOID a catastrophy not to create one so Desmond, Locke and Eko are probably still alive. Not sure what shape the hatch is in.
    3. The way I understand EM is that the electricity creates the magnetism and vice versa. Perhaps the geological components being housed within the concrete and steel bunker created the build-up that needed to be discharged. If there is a way to expose the natural geology perhaps the charge will not build up and there would be no need to press a button. It appears the Dharma folks tried to harness (or hide) the EM and in doing so created a charge. Were they building a weapon? Perhaps if the geology is allowed to exist in a natural state then the charge doesn’t build-up. The question is does it then make the EM visible to the outside world as something that needs to be explored and will the natural exposure attract more crash victims. This would explain the Black Rock ship crashing, but not why it was so many miles inland unless the island has grown and become bigger over time. I am still wrestling with the possibility that the island can move around.
    4. Hurley’s asylum buddy and his mate were stationed at a listening post. Could it be the same or similar to the polar listening post we saw in the finale?
    5. There is a picture of a blond girl (looks like a young Claire?) at the polar listening post. Coincidence—-I think not.
    6. The hatch map shows Dharma conducted experiments with weather. Is the polar listening post connected? It seems the writers would have us believe it is Antartica, but what if it is on the island and Penny works for her Dad now as a cover to find Desmond?
    7. It seems the Others truly believe they are the good guys so I stand by my theory that some of them are the left over victims or rebellious participants of Dharma’s experiments. They are the militant liberators against the Hanso folks (who seem to want to control the world) and have decided to recruit Jack, Kate and Sawyer. Kate and Sawyer are criminals in the outside world so they have nothing to lose and maybe Jack is too we do not know the whole story on him. Or they may need another doctor or science-minded individual to further their cause (and replace Ethan?).
    8. Tom (f/k/a Zeke) had to stop Picket from killing Michael so perhaps the lower ranks of the Others have the less cool heads.
    9. The larger open question in my mind is Sayid, Sun and Jin. They are waiting off-shore at the fake camp. Will they get nabbed too?
    10. Secondary question is Charlie – he is bound to fall out of Claire’s good graces when she discovers that he left Eko and Locke at the hatch.
    11. I still question whether Michael and Walt are gone for good. Michael seemed affected by the fact that Tom tore off the beard and doesn’t he need to make up for killing Ana and Libby in some way. Seems there is always some kind of redemption necessary.

    I bet next season we do not find out whether Not-Henry and the gang are really “good” until the season finale and they will have us on a roller coaster all season learning the “truth”.

    Loving this show, everyone’s theories and counting the days until the DVD’s are released!

  538. hog says:

    Hi Losties,
    Its been great fun reading through all your messages and some very good contributions!! Personally i feel reading about the stuff about some books and nonsense talk about the 4 feet is spamming this blog. My 50 cents worth comments and questions.
    1. Mr.Eko found a book in part-1 which he also gave it to locke.it might have to do something with reality. Reading it he knows what others are. Like the incident in the hatch when eko cuts a piece of his beard and shows it to henry and pleading sorry for killing their people
    2. Walt asking Locke “DON’T OPEN THAT THING” in one of season1 episodes..they never showed us what it was?
    3. The koreans are not plotting..why would they need to look at each other..for god’s sake no one understands what they speak anyway because its in korean damnit.
    4. All lost characters are great actors EXCEPT freckles and sometimes jack..freckles sucks anytime..she sucks…i would pay to get her kicked out..and jack completely lacks diversity…i think lost made a crucial recruiting mistake during audition giving them such main roles..now they can’t even get rid of them..oh even hugo in his new sad role sucks bigtime..
    5. Some obvious facts..eko,locke,desmond are not dead..the show will flop without them..i feel its time up for hugo..
    6. i think this season finale was just toooo good..AWESOME..

  539. TJ says:

    Question: Eko. When he went to investigate the miracle girl. Was the father the same psychic that Claire ahd been seeing for mixed advice?

  540. NikkiV says:

    Has anyone mentioned the second “Jack” at the end of the finale??
    I love all this secret subliminal stuff!!

  541. Sakr3d says:

    TJ
    Question: Eko. When he went to investigate the miracle girl. Was the father the same psychic that Claire ahd been seeing for mixed advice?

    Answer: Already answered, but I’ll answer again. Yes, the father of the miracle girl and Claire’s psychic are one and the same.

    NikkiV
    Has anyone mentioned the second “Jack” at the end of the finale??
    I love all this secret subliminal stuff!!

    Answer: Already discussed and answered. The guy at the end is not Jack, an “evil/good twin of Jack’s, or a mirror image of Jack. Reference Andreas posts concerning this. Here’s the link posted.

    http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/05/25/no-i-am-not-jack/

  542. lesjen says:

    Ok, here’s my idea. I think Charlie acted so odd because it was not really him. I think the others are clones and they clone people. I think everyone on the island has been cloned by use of their dna on things. I think the real Walt is still back with the others. I think the real Charlie was still at the hatch. That would explain why Walt would tell Michael that “they aren’t who they say they are”. He knows they are clones. Also, Walt’s weird apperances on the island could have been clones of him leading people where the others want them. Any takers?

  543. Hammer says:

    [quote comment=”3430″]Ok, here’s my idea. I think Charlie acted so odd because it was not really him. I think the others are clones and they clone people. I think everyone on the island has been cloned by use of their dna on things. I think the real Walt is still back with the others. I think the real Charlie was still at the hatch. That would explain why Walt would tell Michael that “they aren’t who they say they are”. He knows they are clones. Also, Walt’s weird apperances on the island could have been clones of him leading people where the others want them. Any takers?[/quote]

    Interesting idea…does anyone recall any other clues pointing to cloning? The two clues you point out seem to be a stretch.

  544. Stephen says:

    Anyone think that the island may be generating the warm weather, tropical climate. Seemed like the sky was turning white when the hatch was blowing up. Like maybe they were in the Artic. Would explain the polar bears. Why would the “listening” post be in the Artic? Also Desmond said he sailed straight west and ended up back at the island. Would that be possible if they were at the north/south poles? Doesn’t being in the polar regions mess up the compass? Maybe that is why they told Michael to go out on a heading instead of a direction?

    Just some thoughts in my mind :).

  545. Hammer says:

    [quote comment=”3310″][quote comment=”3305″][quote comment=”3293″][quote comment=”3291″][quote comment=”3290″]Why are all these Age of Enlightenment philosphers name’s keep coming up.

    Hume – the skeptic.
    Locke – free will
    Rosseau – the social contract

    any ideas? Have I missed names?[/quote]

    Actualy the names go perfect with the hidden images in the background. Wraith (smoke creature), goliath (4 toed giant), all referenced in the works of the enlightened philosophers. It all fits hand in hand….[/quote]

    I see where you are going with this. I’m having a brain cramp though…how is Hume ref. on the show?[/quote]
    access this site:

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hume/#Treatise

    The site is a background of Hume and his works. The reference in the show is not a physical reference but a plot reference. On the web if you go to the Hanso site what you see is only an illusion and can be seen on other sites. This is proven by the use of the optical illusion on the Bigspaceship site refferenced here:

    http://carolyn925.livejournal.com/7419.html?view=50171#t50171

    At the very top of the page the originator placed a link to the bigspaceship site as well as a reference as to what the site used to contain before its contence was modified to say time god, which was Cronos found in greek mythology. The second link on the page refferences a .gif image “rotosnake” which is an optical illusion. Which is where the illusion reference comes into play inreguards to Hume.[/quote]

    Thanks.[/quote]

    I’m seeing more of a connection with the “Age of Enlightenment”
    philosophers. “Live Together, Die Alone” seem to be words used in many of socialist songs and writings (Marx).

  546. lesjen says:

    [quote comment=”3431″][quote comment=”3430″]Ok, here’s my idea. I think Charlie acted so odd because it was not really him. I think the others are clones and they clone people. I think everyone on the island has been cloned by use of their dna on things. I think the real Walt is still back with the others. I think the real Charlie was still at the hatch. That would explain why Walt would tell Michael that “they aren’t who they say they are”. He knows they are clones. Also, Walt’s weird apperances on the island could have been clones of him leading people where the others want them. Any takers?[/quote]

    Interesting idea…does anyone recall any other clues pointing to cloning? The two clues you point out seem to be a stretch.[/quote]

    Ok, how about Eko giving his beard hair to Henry? There was also an episode where Claire says they can never find their hairbrushes. Hair is a perfect dna sample. A little less of a stretch?

  547. Mike says:

    [quote comment=”3408″]Hi Losties,
    Its been great fun reading through all your messages and some very good contributions!! Personally i feel reading about the stuff about some books and nonsense talk about the 4 feet is spamming this blog. My 50 cents worth comments and questions.
    1. Mr.Eko found a book in part-1 which he also gave it to locke.it might have to do something with reality. Reading it he knows what others are. Like the incident in the hatch when eko cuts a piece of his beard and shows it to henry and pleading sorry for killing their people
    2. Walt asking Locke “DON’T OPEN THAT THING” in one of season1 episodes..they never showed us what it was?
    3. The koreans are not plotting..why would they need to look at each other..for god’s sake no one understands what they speak anyway because its in korean damnit.
    4. All lost characters are great actors EXCEPT freckles and sometimes jack..freckles sucks anytime..she sucks…i would pay to get her kicked out..and jack completely lacks diversity…i think lost made a crucial recruiting mistake during audition giving them such main roles..now they can’t even get rid of them..oh even hugo in his new sad role sucks bigtime..
    5. Some obvious facts..eko,locke,desmond are not dead..the show will flop without them..i feel its time up for hugo..
    6. i think this season finale was just toooo good..AWESOME..[/quote]

    i disagree with your (4). I believe Matthew Fox is where he needs to be in the show; and I also believe he is a critical piece to solving the LOST puzzle. Remember it was Jack who awoke in the bamboo jungle in the pilot episode. He could have passed for a Dr. Carter on E.R. easily.

    Evi is also a great addition because of the sawyer, jack, kate trifecta. Beleive me, when one of the three go down, it’ll probably be the end of the show, at least for me.

  548. mikep says:

    Jack worked in a Hanso hospital, but did’nt know it/ or maybe he did. That’s why Sarah was healed. Kelvin is Kate’s dad. Somehow Jack and Kate have some connection to Hanso/Dharma. The Others are executives and scientists of the Hanso Foundation in hiding and with their main purpose being to build an electromagnetic super weapon and RULE THE WORLD! Maybe this is all crazy, just some of my theories.

  549. CAG says:

    Does anyone think it’s relevent that Hurley walked out on a dock and noone died?

    Also, I think you need to pull the hair out bu the root to get DNA from it.

    Also Also, unless the events happened out of sequence, it was daylinght where the two guys at the arctic listening post were, Night time at the island, actually, it’s Late November/early December on the isl;and, if they were in the antarctic, it would be daylingt all the time (or most of the time) so I’m thinking they’re not there.

  550. RJ says:

    [quote comment=”3240″]I forgot also to mention that I could swear that Locke said something about the snowmen and the carrot to somebody, who didn’t get the joke. Then in the flashback to Desmond, that Ingram guy in the yellow suit says to Desmond in semi-coma that snowman and carrot joke. Desmond doesn’t know what he’s talking about and the Ingram guy says “You’re not the one”, and he’s very disappointed, because who he’s really looking for is Locke! Locke seems to be the one to lead them all out of their problems. He is the “chosen one”. Am I wrong, maybe I got this wrong.[/quote]

    the snow thins is just a code, when the guy in the hatch asked desmond, he didnt b/c hes not the one thats suppose to come and replace him–take over the hatch–so when lock first enterned the hatch and desmond was there alone, he thought locke was the one coming to replace and free him, so he asked locke about the snowman. when lock went to desmond in the island in the finale, it was just to tell him he still remembered, he even asked it sarcastically…

  551. hog says:

    [quote comment=”3443″][quote comment=”3408″]Hi Losties,
    Its been great fun reading through all your messages and some very good contributions!! Personally i feel reading about the stuff about some books and nonsense talk about the 4 feet is spamming this blog. My 50 cents worth comments and questions.
    1. Mr.Eko found a book in part-1 which he also gave it to locke.it might have to do something with reality. Reading it he knows what others are. Like the incident in the hatch when eko cuts a piece of his beard and shows it to henry and pleading sorry for killing their people
    2. Walt asking Locke “DON’T OPEN THAT THING” in one of season1 episodes..they never showed us what it was?
    3. The koreans are not plotting..why would they need to look at each other..for god’s sake no one understands what they speak anyway because its in korean damnit.
    4. All lost characters are great actors EXCEPT freckles and sometimes jack..freckles sucks anytime..she sucks…i would pay to get her kicked out..and jack completely lacks diversity…i think lost made a crucial recruiting mistake during audition giving them such main roles..now they can’t even get rid of them..oh even hugo in his new sad role sucks bigtime..
    5. Some obvious facts..eko,locke,desmond are not dead..the show will flop without them..i feel its time up for hugo..
    6. i think this season finale was just toooo good..AWESOME..[/quote]

    i disagree with your (4). I believe Matthew Fox is where he needs to be in the show; and I also believe he is a critical piece to solving the LOST puzzle. Remember it was Jack who awoke in the bamboo jungle in the pilot episode. He could have passed for a Dr. Carter on E.R. easily.

    Evi is also a great addition because of the sawyer, jack, kate trifecta. Beleive me, when one of the three go down, it’ll probably be the end of the show, at least for me.[/quote]

    I know they are very critical to the show..but u did’nt get my point..i said their acting sucks..and lost has to bear the brunt because they got them good roles but now their acting has become so monotonous..look at jack in the first few episodes..now he is pathetic at acting…and ofcourse freckles..she seems so pretentious..

  552. Bobbi says:

    [quote comment=”3446″]Jack worked in a Hanso hospital, but did’nt know it/ or maybe he did. That’s why Sarah was healed. Kelvin is Kate’s dad. Somehow Jack and Kate have some connection to Hanso/Dharma. The Others are executives and scientists of the Hanso Foundation in hiding and with their main purpose being to build an electromagnetic super weapon and RULE THE WORLD! Maybe this is all crazy, just some of my theories.[/quote]

    Kate blew her dad up…didnt she? I could swear she blew up the house, then afterward was mad that her stepdad never told her that the other guy was her real dad.

  553. Daddyman says:

    Charlie a clone? Cool idea, but probably not enough time to grow a real human that fast.

    Island is really at south pole? Possible- Desmond, when complaining drunk about failing to sail away said “we’re in a &&^%%^& snow globe”, and that matches well with carrot joke, polar bear, and antarctic researchers in scanning station. I have a friend who flies military planes to south pole. They leave from Australia and New Zealand to get to science station on antarctica. But polar bears are from arctic, penguins from antarctic…..

    Baby connection and genes?
    1. Claire’s Baby is special (warning from psychic, etc
    2. Walt’s mom left country unannounced when he was very young
    3. Korean baby- remember scared doctor who ‘fessed up about telling her she couldn’t have kids? She was dragged off into woods in one episode, and now pregnant
    4. Locke’s bio dad stealing (special) kidney?
    5. Dead people (and relation to procreation)
    a. Boone- had sex with his sister- dead
    b. Anna Lucia- had sex with Sawyer- dead
    c. Libby- thinking cozy ’bout Hurley- dead

    Maybe someone is making sure that people who carry the genes they are after don’t reproduce with wrong people and then protect/guide the ones they want to come to island?

    Right genes + good person + right location (island)= super good person (healing, savior, etc…?)

    Right genes + bad person + island= super bad (evil, Hitler, etc..)?

    Too many things to make clear picture out of it all, but lots of fun trying! _

  554. Annie says:

    I think the heiroglyph says “SWAN” spelled in Egyptian heiroglyphs

  555. Hammer says:

    [quote comment=”3441″][quote comment=”3431″][quote comment=”3430″]Ok, here’s my idea. I think Charlie acted so odd because it was not really him. I think the others are clones and they clone people. I think everyone on the island has been cloned by use of their dna on things. I think the real Walt is still back with the others. I think the real Charlie was still at the hatch. That would explain why Walt would tell Michael that “they aren’t who they say they are”. He knows they are clones. Also, Walt’s weird apperances on the island could have been clones of him leading people where the others want them. Any takers?[/quote]

    Interesting idea…does anyone recall any other clues pointing to cloning? The two clues you point out seem to be a stretch.[/quote]

    Ok, how about Eko giving his beard hair to Henry? There was also an episode where Claire says they can never find their hairbrushes. Hair is a perfect dna sample. A little less of a stretch?[/quote]

    Not that I’m buying into this theory, but I seem to recall the others taking blood from Michael. I thought they were testing for the “virus”.

  556. manny says:

    [quote comment=”3432″]Anyone think that the island may be generating the warm weather, tropical climate. Seemed like the sky was turning white when the hatch was blowing up. Like maybe they were in the Artic. Would explain the polar bears. Why would the “listening” post be in the Artic? Also Desmond said he sailed straight west and ended up back at the island. Would that be possible if they were at the north/south poles? Doesn’t being in the polar regions mess up the compass? Maybe that is why they told Michael to go out on a heading instead of a direction?

    Just some thoughts in my mind :).[/quote]

    but doesn’t the heading (rather than a direction) also depend on orientation in which you start. ie, you have to face due north to figure out what bearing 325 is, right?

  557. manny says:

    [quote comment=”3449″][quote comment=”3443″][quote comment=”3408″]Hi Losties,
    Its been great fun reading through all your messages and some very good contributions!! Personally i feel reading about the stuff about some books and nonsense talk about the 4 feet is spamming this blog. My 50 cents worth comments and questions.
    1. Mr.Eko found a book in part-1 which he also gave it to locke.it might have to do something with reality. Reading it he knows what others are. Like the incident in the hatch when eko cuts a piece of his beard and shows it to henry and pleading sorry for killing their people
    2. Walt asking Locke “DON’T OPEN THAT THING” in one of season1 episodes..they never showed us what it was?
    3. The koreans are not plotting..why would they need to look at each other..for god’s sake no one understands what they speak anyway because its in korean damnit.
    4. All lost characters are great actors EXCEPT freckles and sometimes jack..freckles sucks anytime..she sucks…i would pay to get her kicked out..and jack completely lacks diversity…i think lost made a crucial recruiting mistake during audition giving them such main roles..now they can’t even get rid of them..oh even hugo in his new sad role sucks bigtime..
    5. Some obvious facts..eko,locke,desmond are not dead..the show will flop without them..i feel its time up for hugo..
    6. i think this season finale was just toooo good..AWESOME..[/quote]

    i disagree with your (4). I believe Matthew Fox is where he needs to be in the show; and I also believe he is a critical piece to solving the LOST puzzle. Remember it was Jack who awoke in the bamboo jungle in the pilot episode. He could have passed for a Dr. Carter on E.R. easily.

    Evi is also a great addition because of the sawyer, jack, kate trifecta. Beleive me, when one of the three go down, it’ll probably be the end of the show, at least for me.[/quote]

    I know they are very critical to the show..but u did’nt get my point..i said their acting sucks..and lost has to bear the brunt because they got them good roles but now their acting has become so monotonous..look at jack in the first few episodes..now he is pathetic at acting…and ofcourse freckles..she seems so pretentious..[/quote]

    this is one where we can agree to disagree as it’s just a matter of opinion. personally i think ana lucia’s acting was no good. it was a good fit for her though. it’s like madonna in evita – having morning sickness doesn’t mean you’re a good actress.

  558. Anthony says:

    [quote comment=”3170″][quote comment=”3056″]okay, here are screencaps:

    Doesnt this look like it’s Jack? Can’t believe noone noticed…

    full caps:

    http://servo.fukt.bth.se/eso/lw2/lost/4.jpg%5B/quote%5D

    [quote comment=”3056″]okay, here are screencaps:

    Doesnt this look like it’s Jack? Can’t believe noone noticed…

    full caps:

    http://servo.fukt.bth.se/eso/lw2/lost/4.jpg%5B/quote%5D

    I can’t believe no one else has commneted on this. From the pics, its too similar to outright dismiss. Sure, it would blow open the whole space/time thing, but like I said, its a safe bet that’s Jack in those pics, aye?

    And yeah, those DUI’s for Ana Lucia and Libby had no impact on their characters longevity on the show. In fact, Libby was in the finale, albeit in a flashback, but still there.[/quote]
    holy crap! it IS jack. i agree..how come no one else is talking about this?

  559. Andreas says:

    It is NOT Jack. It was dismissed by the Lost exectuive producers in the last podcast.

  560. Cecilia says:

    OK, not going to comment on much of the 500+ posts for this one episode, but I was called in to refute something involving the webmaze. :)

    Widmoregroup.com is NOT official webmaze material, it is a hoax/fan site. You can tell by /whois information and also from the fact that it is rather amateurishly made, and takes the Cooper pic from a screencap of the show, while taking other pics from other parts of the official ARG.

    I’ve said this in the past, but there are many fake websites out there made to fool fans into thinking they are part of the official ARG. Take all links with a grain of salt until they are promoted WITHIN the webmaze itself, such as by national promotional ad (TV, national newspapers, large distribution marketing) or made a link intrinsically through one of the already confirmed sites.

  561. donyab says:

    Dave was the name of the guy in the Looney Bin that gave Hurley the Evil Lottery Numbers. Don’t know if there is a connection at all.[/quote]

    The name of the guy in the asylum that Hurley got the numbers from was Leonard, not Dave. Dave was Hurley’s “imaginary” friend in the asylum. Dave was also the name of Libby’s husband. No theories here, just a few clarifications.

  562. Lia says:

    Just to make something clear.. several posts referred earlier to the guys in the middle of the snow… well, those guys were speaking Portuguese (not spanish, not russian… portuguese). the thing is those guys had a brazilian portuguese accent (kinda like there’s american english and british english)… therefore we can assume that those guys are from Brazil. another thing.. someone said that Brazil was down south… yeah, it is in the south hemisphere but it’s climate has nothing to do with cold weather (in fact it has a south american typical climate – which is hot and humid, in other words, tropical…)

    Lia

  563. KTAN says:

    [quote comment=”2876″]I Hate MichAel that two timing punk.. hes going to get whats coming to him .. im telling you kharma is bad .. but dharma kharma is way worse !!!

    my theory .. might sound a bit funny, but the four toed statue of a foot, had four toes…. the only thing i could think off that has four toes and would be able to stand on two feet are the simpsons, but i dont know let me know what you think ?

    (hi jennifer)[/quote]

    oh man, my dad said the same thing… Homercleas.

  564. Lia says:

    Hey, just a thought…
    4 toes = 4 names on the list The Others gave to Michael…
    Do you guys think this could be somehow related?

  565. Henry Gale says:

    Just a thought, the statue with 4 toes….. When fake Henry was walking down the dock on the finale he was barefoot. Has anyone been able to zoom in on his feet to see if he has 4 toes? Just curious…

  566. Hammer says:

    [quote comment=”3533″]Just a thought, the statue with 4 toes….. When fake Henry was walking down the dock on the finale he was barefoot. Has anyone been able to zoom in on his feet to see if he has 4 toes? Just curious…[/quote]

    I tried. It appears that the other “others” have five toes. I think Henry does too but it’s too blurry. I noticed that they always seem to pan up from the “others” feet as if they want you to look for it. Especially in the finale, they trained the camera on their feet frequently.

    Did anyone else look for this or in any of the other episodes? I don’t remember which episode, but there was a scene where the others passed one of the Losties laying in the weeds and the feet were heavily focused on.

  567. gc says:

    [quote comment=”3506″]Dave was the name of the guy in the Looney Bin that gave Hurley the Evil Lottery Numbers. Don’t know if there is a connection at all.[/quote]

    The name of the guy in the asylum that Hurley got the numbers from was Leonard, not Dave. Dave was Hurley’s “imaginary” friend in the asylum. Dave was also the name of Libby’s husband. No theories here, just a few clarifications.[/quote]
    You’re right. I watched the rerun of this season’s first episode and Hurley mentioned it.

  568. Totalblamblam says:

    i just have a couple of things i wanted to add. The stuff in the hatch the mainly the computer room is defintely circa 1980, Hugh McIntyre the communication director for the Hanso Foundation has said in interview that the Hanso Foundation stopped funding the Dharma Initiative in 1987 that puts us in the right time frame. However when you look at the living quarters of the Swan Hatch you will find that the interior design not circa 1980 it is definatley more modern i.e. the washer and dryer. As far as we know the survivors of flight 815 crashed on the island September 22, 2004 and what i have come to refer to as Swan hatch memebers circa 2004 our “brother” Desmond and his “Mate” Kelvin Inman are what i refer to as Swan Hatch crew Circa 2001 because like desmond said he had been in the hatch for 3 years, and so far that is how far back the history of the Swan hatch goes with the exception of Kelvin and Rezinski we dont when they came to the island or who they replace. So we figure Hanso stopped funding Dharma in 1987 and we dont know when the Dharma was first created im guessing that post WWII era from the old jeep ads hidden in the Hanso website (i dont know its just speculation) but it makes sense cold war era and secret government projects always seem to go hand in hand. I dont want to drag on and on but Charles Widmore is Also a member of the board of Directors for the Hanso Foundation likely and investor since he isnt a scientist like most of the other board members. i doubt and really hope desmond isnt dead his character is vital as is Kelvin and especially the mysterious Rezinski i also figure dez isnt dead because he uses the phrase see you in another life brother way to lightly to believe he is going to die. We dont even know if the Swan hatch is even still there. Cant wait till Season 3. (im not going back to correct my grammar i just dont care)

  569. Totalblamblam says:

    also you may ask why would the interior design of the living quarters of the Swan Hatch be so pretty and modern and they are still typing the number sequence on a commadore probably because it would take more than 108 minutes to update a very important computer system

  570. Sean says:

    Hi gang,
    I am hoping someone can help me on something I saw in “the Pearl”? when Locke and Ecko are by the plane, Ecko goes up on the ridge and finds the hatch for the Pearl under the plane…. but if you look in the back round behind Locke there is a white circle about 15 feet around?
    Does anyone have a clue what this is? I have a theory that this is where the EMF is discharged, but I have to edmit its bugging thee crap out of me?
    thanks for the help
    Sean
    great Ideas, keep them coming!

  571. Bobbi says:

    I have a question. Have we yet seen water going down a drain in the show? Silly sounding i know, but I was just reading a bit of trivia and it said if you live NORTH of the equator it goes down the drain clockwise, and counterclockwise if you live south of the equator. Because of EM this might be irrelevant anyway, but thought it would be an interesting detail to look into.

  572. samsandrasan says:

    I don’t know if anyone is still reading this thread but it seems to be the main one to talk about the finale. So, if anyone is still out there…

    I don’t think Charlie is a clone but I do believe something happened to him that changed him while he was kidnapped. He is not someone to be trusted.

    I don’t think the Others are living on the island at all. I think they are living off shore. Henry told Michael he would be rescued if he set out on that heading. I take that to mean picked up at sea. The camp and the hatch are fake and they seem to arrive by water quite often. The dock was called the something Ferry – ferrying them to and from where? Possibly a site that controls some of what is on the island (ie whispers, smoke, remote viewing?).

    I realize that the Brazilian/Porteugese fellow has been comfirmed not to be Jack’s twin. However, I did a screen capture of the artic station and there are still some interesting things. The photo Tasha mentioned positioned so prominently between the guys – It is impossible to make out clearly but I believe it is of a blonde woman. Maybe I’m reading in too much but the background in the photo looks to be the same rosey color as the living quarters of the button hatch (swan?). I also came across what looks like a large photo on the left wall of the room. I swear the dim outline of the guy in the photo looks like Jack. I think there is also a woman in the photo.

    This is just probably nothing but, as a woman, it bugged me: Penelope’s nightstand had everything from her purse out on it, including what looked like a mini shampoo. I’m just wondering where she is because I don’t think she is in her own bed.

    Lastly, I don’t think that the website and the show are going to be integrated as much as some people seem to be thinking. I don’t think the characters from the website are going to make it to the script. I think that it will be more background history that possibly only the viewers (not the characters) are going to be privvy to. Just my opinion.

  573. Michael says:

    I made a post that Eko lived in East Oahu. I apologize but it’s MICHAEL who lives in east oahu in real life.

    he also reports that from local news here that he will not be in season 3…but might be returning for season 4 (actually it’s a good chance).

    maybe it’s already been said but i don’t want to have to dig through the millions of posts on this blog.

    my question is, with michael gone, where did they go?

  574. carebare says:

    [quote comment=”3545″]Hi gang,
    I am hoping someone can help me on something I saw in “the Pearl”? when Locke and Ecko are by the plane, Ecko goes up on the ridge and finds the hatch for the Pearl under the plane…. but if you look in the back round behind Locke there is a white circle about 15 feet around?
    Does anyone have a clue what this is? I have a theory that this is where the EMF is discharged, but I have to edmit its bugging thee crap out of me?
    thanks for the help
    Sean
    great Ideas, keep them coming![/quote]

    They talked about this right when Eko came down, remember? Locke licked it and they said it was put there to make the grass not grow there. probably so they could find that hatch again.

  575. Love's Labor's Lost says:

    I realize that the Brazilian/Porteugese fellow has been comfirmed not to be Jack’s twin. However, I did a screen capture of the artic station and there are still some interesting things. The photo Tasha mentioned positioned so prominently between the guys – It is impossible to make out clearly but I believe it is of a blonde woman. Maybe I’m reading in too much but the background in the photo looks to be the same rosey color as the living quarters of the button hatch (swan?). I also came across what looks like a large photo on the left wall of the room. I swear the dim outline of the guy in the photo looks like Jack. I think there is also a woman in the photo.

    Since the arctic guy looks like Jack’s twin, couldn’t the large photo be of the “twin”?

  576. Love's Labor's Lost says:

    [quote comment=”3814″]I made a post that Eko lived in East Oahu. I apologize but it’s MICHAEL who lives in east oahu in real life.

    he also reports that from local news here that he will not be in season 3…but might be returning for season 4 (actually it’s a good chance).

    maybe it’s already been said but i don’t want to have to dig through the millions of posts on this blog.

    my question is, with michael gone, where did they go?[/quote]

    When was the quote from the local news? Because Michael has also been quoted elsewhere as saying that at first he was told he wouldn’t be back for Season 3, but then he was told he would be.

  577. Hammer says:

    I have been watching season one again and just noticed that during most if not all the plane scenes, as the plane starts to get turbulance and break apart…you can hear that same “static scratching” sound that you hear when magnet went off in the last episode.

    Do you think that’s a clue that the magnet brought down the plane?

  578. jossie says:

    HI guys i don’t know if ny one talk about the giant green eagal that was calling hurley name that the end of season 2. but was watching season 1 and the same bird came out calling hurley’s name when they went to the black rock. you see it one time but it call his name 3 times before the smoke monster attack locke. like a warning, and every time the green bird call his the camrea show hurley. so in season 3 when hurley goes back to camp i thing he will find the green bird, and change is luck. P.S. how will he find his camp if he is not a tracker, was blinded till he got to the dock,plus no weapons just in case a bear shows up, or did the others plan for him to dead in the jungel becuse of his bad luck.

  579. Joel says:

    If anyone reads this thread, I have a new question. On the episode entitled “Every Man for Himself” that just aired on 10/25, Kate says to Sawyer “Live together, die alone”, which was the name of another episode in season 2? Whay did she say it? What is the connection? I might be forgetting something.

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