DHARMA Orchid Video

I am reposting this video because I think there is enough here to merit comments. This could be a self-parody, or it may appear in Season 4 at some point (thanks Hammer), but I think it’s more legit than not given that ABC.com has also posted it. Mentions of cloning, time-shifting, Jacob and a gorilla on a bicycle… I am getting excited for Season 4!

What are your thoughts?

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46 Responses to DHARMA Orchid Video

  1. theorynut... says:

    Hey Bloggers it’s been awhile. I saw JACOB IN THIS, DID ANYONE ELSE??? Right after Doc holds up rabbit watch for closeup on his face, then by gosh a very quick flash of the image we called Jacob last season. OH BOY…ANY THOUGHS….

  2. todd sanders says:

    i also see a frame from an early dharma film with the bearded guy from the university, and i believe a frame of the dharma office building the hanso photo was taken from

    and i think both rabbits have the same number 15 on them yes?

  3. Bobbi says:

    [quote comment="89682"]i also see a frame from an early dharma film with the bearded guy from the university, and i believe a frame of the dharma office building the hanso photo was taken from

    and i think both rabbits have the same number 15 on them yes?[/quote]

    Yeah, they actually call the rabbit “15”, when he appears in the back shelf. And they say “when did you set the shift?” So I am really hoping they aren’t going to end the entire series with everyone shifted right back on the airplane ‘avoiding’ the crash.

  4. atchon says:

    he mentions a casimir effect in the video which has somethings to do with quantum physics and causing negative energy or some such, or also used to stabilize worm holes is what I’ve got from reeding up on it.

    Not sure if intended but the I’m not suppose to shine I’m a… is kind of funny or actually means something because the casimir effect has a lot to do with light.

    I think the casimir effect is going to be a major part potentially.

  5. pinto says:

    i dont think taht was a gorrila on a bike, i think it was a sort of upsidedown world possibly. Just maybe parallel universes might show up in the next season!

    does anyone know what the sagnificance might be to the building snapshot?

  6. pinto says:

    [quote comment="89729"]he mentions a casimir effect in the video which has somethings to do with quantum physics and causing negative energy or some such, or also used to stabilize worm holes is what I’ve got from reeding up on it.

    Not sure if intended but the I’m not suppose to shine I’m a… is kind of funny or actually means something because the casimir effect has a lot to do with light.

    I think the casimir effect is going to be a major part potentially.[/quote]

    I also saw a flashlight at the begining of the video

  7. Craig says:

    Can we expect a little teaser clip to keep us interested between now and Season 4?

    God Loves You as He Loved Jacob also flashes up during the commotion.

  8. Bob says:

    Man, I think they are playing with my head. They know I am in withdrawal and they do this to me. I isn’t fair I tell you!!!

  9. Bob says:

    OK I watched it again, and there is a flash of a sign, I got a capture of it, it says, “God loves you as he loves Jacob”

  10. Bob says:

    [url=http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=godlovesiz8.jpg][img=http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1729/godlovesiz8.th.jpg][/url]

  11. Hammer says:

    theorynut – I managaed to pause the video at that point and the image doesn’t look like Jacob to me. Rather a man in seventies-ish fashion and some other people in the background.

  12. Hammer says:

    The upside down bike video looks to me like a person in a Dharma jumpsuit similar to Mikhail’s. The buildings in the background remind me of the Other’s compound.

  13. Hammer says:

    Also, I don’t know why…but the building clip reminds me of the Murrah building from the Oklahoma City bombing.

  14. Arty V. says:

    Hey guys… What do you think the creepy numbers will have to do in the next season? Will they be back? Has anyone else realized they are used quite often? (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42) i.e. Flight 815, $23000 reward for Kate Austen’s catching, 16 years spent for Danielle on the island, 42 people at one point on the island that they mentioned…stuff like that? any comment?

  15. clover says:

    i think the identical rabbits refer to the theory of time travel… if an individual travels back in time and meets his past self and they touch, they implode! because it’s some kind of time-paradox…

  16. Hammer says:

    Arty – Do a search for the numbers at lostpedia.com…all kinds of numbers related stuff.

  17. james says:

    i just had a thought about the “numbers”,
    what if you will have to watch episodes:
    4 (season1) + 8 (season2) + 15 (season3) + 16 (season4) + 23 (season5) + 42 (overall) to get a straight story?!?

  18. Anon says:

    [quote comment="89915"]i dont think taht was a gorrila on a bike, i think it was a sort of upsidedown world possibly.

    Just maybe parallel universes might show up in the next season!

    does anyone know what the sagnificance might be to the building snapshot?[/quote]

    The building was previously established as being in Narvik, Norway, and is the location of Alvar Hanso’s HQ.

  19. samsandrasan says:

    The bearded guy in the flash is Gerald DeGroot. The “God Loves you” flash comes at the time when the shift occurs. Notice right after the flash (and before the whatever falls off the shelf) that the microscope on the shelf is turned around and the desk lamp is askew. Don’t know if that means anything since the film is so chopped up anyway. Just thought it was interesting that they don’t notice the shift until the duplicate bunny knocks something off the shelf and they see him.

  20. samsandrasan says:

    Anon-

    Were there any pictures of the actual building in Narvik?

    I was curious to see if the dark thing to the left was a sculpture. I looked on Google Earth and I spotted the buildings in a couple of the photos of the city. When I tried to find the buildings on the arial, I couldn’t make them out. Where I thought they may be in reference the the Mirror Pike – there is an octogon on the ground – just a fountain I think. Thought it was a funny coincidence.

  21. smirkintina says:

    Not wanting the two rabbits to get near each other and the reason for the count down during the encounter??? I could only think of the meeting of Jacob and Locke in the cabin when Locke got too close after a short while, then all hell broke loose…hmmm

  22. Anon says:

    [quote comment="90852"]Anon-

    Were there any pictures of the actual building in Narvik?

    I was curious to see if the dark thing to the left was a sculpture. I looked on Google Earth and I spotted the buildings in a couple of the photos of the city. When I tried to find the buildings on the arial, I couldn’t make them out. Where I thought they may be in reference the the Mirror Pike – there is an octogon on the ground – just a fountain I think. Thought it was a funny coincidence.[/quote]

    Here are some 360-degree views of the building in Narvik (“Klikk og hold nede musetasten for å panorere i bildet” — my best guess at the Norwegian-to-English translation is “Click and hold the mouse for a panoramic view”):

    Close-up of the building (the sculpture is too far away to see):
    http://www.narvikportalen.no/narvik_raadhus.html

    Far-away view of the building (camera is near the sculpture):
    http://www.narvikportalen.no/malmvogna.html

    Another view:
    http://www.narvikportalen.no/narvik_kryss.htm

    Very far away view:
    http://www.narvikportalen.no/trigonomen.html

    View from the top of the building at night (you can see the sculpture down below):
    http://www.narvikportalen.no/narvik_taket.htm

    Here’s another:
    http://www.narvikportalen.no/narvik_kikkindas.htm

  23. Anon says:

    …And here’s a webcam from the top of the building in Narvik. The sculpture is at the lower-left.

    http://www.webcamsinnorway.com/webcams.php?viewcam=64

  24. samsandrasan says:

    Thank you Anon.
    Wow, from Kauai to Norway – somebody is having fun.

  25. Minkus says:

    Hello all,
    Just a random thought but i think this was a teaser to let us know when season 4 will start. Right before holding up the Rabbit with 15 on it Hanzo shows the number two with his fingers. Feb 15th maybe? It is a friday which seems unlikely though…any thoughts?

  26. blair says:

    i was watching the video and saw something falling down on the left side of the clip right before the new rabbit appeared. What was it?

  27. atchon says:

    The thing which falls is a capped glass flask I’m pretty sure if you watch the video again there is one in front of the cage when he takes the rabbit out.

  28. Hurley's Dad says:

    [quote comment="91470"]Thank you Anon.
    Wow, from Kauai to Norway – somebody is having fun.[/quote]
    Actually, Norway to Kauai would be more fun. :)

  29. samsandrasan says:

    [quote comment="94137"]The thing which falls is a capped glass flask I’m pretty sure if you watch the video again there is one in front of the cage when he takes the rabbit out.[/quote]
    I thought so too but, why don’t we hear a crash when it hits the floor? Anyway, I think whatever it is, it is just something the bunny knocks off the shelf. He’s pissed that something falls and then he’s really freaked when he looks up and sees the rabbit.

    Whatever happened – why did it just affect the rabbit?

  30. Hammer says:

    sam- Here’s a crazy thought. The reason it only effected the rabbit is because whatever it is that was “reset” was being tested on the rabbits because they were “just learning…” which is why are numbered. Now for the crazy part…the thing they were testing was then made on a larger scale (the whole island) and the “reset” was set for every 108 minutes creating a parrallel time which is where the island is now. Dez turned the fail safe which allowed the island to be seen again and the “bad guys” are on the way to get their hands on the technology so they can RULE THE WORLD(evil genius laugh).

    Someone correct me…

  31. samsandrasan says:

    Hammer-

    You crack me up.

    Spontaneously Duplicating Bunnies huh?
    Well….okay…..

  32. Jules says:

    I like it… good theory =)

    [quote comment="95090"]sam- Here’s a crazy thought. The reason it only effected the rabbit is because whatever it is that was “reset” was being tested on the rabbits because they were “just learning…” which is why are numbered. Now for the crazy part…the thing they were testing was then made on a larger scale (the whole island) and the “reset” was set for every 108 minutes creating a parrallel time which is where the island is now. Dez turned the fail safe which allowed the island to be seen again and the “bad guys” are on the way to get their hands on the technology so they can RULE THE WORLD(evil genius laugh).

    Someone correct me…[/quote]

  33. Hammer says:

    Spontaneously Duplicating Bunnies = The Evil Twin ???

  34. i also noticed that marvin candle doesn’t have a prosthetic arm in this clip. since we’ve seen him with it AND under another name, maybe he’s cloned [too]? just a thought.

  35. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="99574"]i also noticed that marvin candle doesn’t have a prosthetic arm in this clip. since we’ve seen him with it AND under another name, maybe he’s cloned [too]? just a thought.[/quote]
    Good catch, maybe we’re onto something here?

  36. Hammer says:

    But I don’t think it’s cloning. I think it’s “time” being overlapped.

  37. Toeknee says:

    I didn’t see anyone else mention this yet, so I figured I’d throw it out there….

    The scientist used the name Haliwax, or something like that. The “wax” portion of the name is consistent with the other names he used, Candle and Wickman.

  38. Hammer says:

    Good catch Toeknee. So is it Haliwax or Hollowax?

    Brainstorming:

    *Burning the candle at both ends?
    *A candle in the wind?
    *Birthday candles (possible ref. to Ben asking Alpert if he remembers birthdays?)
    *Wax figures look real but are fake. (a metaphor?)
    *Candles only burn for a short time…maybe he is being “cloned”** because the “reset” only lasts so long?

  39. samsandrasan says:

    Maybe it has something to do with the Flame station.

  40. Hammer says:

    Good thought sam. Since the Flame was the link to the outside world or “current time”, maybe his mutiple “times” or “clones” had names that are associated with flame so that the monitors from “current time” would know which “time” they were talking to?

  41. acid_for_the_youth says:

    [quote comment="90834"]The bearded guy in the flash is Gerald DeGroot. The “God Loves you” flash comes at the time when the shift occurs. Notice right after the flash (and before the whatever falls off the shelf) that the microscope on the shelf is turned around and the desk lamp is askew. Don’t know if that means anything since the film is so chopped up anyway. Just thought it was interesting that they don’t notice the shift until the duplicate bunny knocks something off the shelf and they see him.[/quote]
    If you notice the entire contents of the shelf on the left side of the garbage can is different after the message about god loving jacob.

  42. ZZ says:

    Perhaps, It means nothing the lot of it they are just trying to keep us sweet because it is a long wait. The flashing images of a building it doesnt make sense, But when they talk about the time shift is a mystery and where is the orchid??????

  43. cassiemir says:

    I loved your posts guys! I am a newbie to this site, and am really missing Lost.

    I’ve tried other sites, but they just keep rehashing the old stuff, which is good, but,…boring! I can’t wait until next season!

    I watched the video. It seems that there is some kind of duplication going on. Whether or not it has to do with cloning, or time rifts, shifts, etc., I do not know, and cannot guess,….but….I LOVE IT!!!

    I’ve been looking for a chat site regarding Lost, but nada. Anybody aware of any good ones? If so, please post them! Thanks!

    Good site!

  44. cassiemir says:

    Ok guys…I rewatched the video again. Here are my thoughts:

    1. The background of the video appears that the good doctor was superimposed onto the background.

    2. I don’t think this doctor is the same doctor(s) we saw before. He seems shorter, and his facial composition is different. Look closely,…this guy’s face is shorter, etc.

    3. The editing filter is one that Premier (Adobe), added to it’s lineup, just lately,…which gives the aged effect, and the filter wasn’t used properly. It’s not an expensive filter, most anybody can afford it. I do this for a living, and the person who did this, did not do a good job.

    4. If it was legit, it would have been shot on 8 mm, not on modern film/digital media,..Lost has the budget to do it.

    I wish it was real, but sadly, I do not think it was.

  45. ainee says:

    - 20 x 9 = – 108

    i don’t know if there’s any connection.. or if it’s worth mentioning..

    and yes guys i did notice that the microscope on top of the shelf near the second rabbit was changed..
    also i’ve noticed that on the left some of the things were missing.. could it the fault of the production assistant.. or was it meant to be shown that way.. i must admit lost have been really particular with their details..

    by the way guys has anyone noticed that black smoke that hit the planes engine in season one?

  46. ainee says:

    hmm.. i think this video is real.. it was even posted at abc.com

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