Lost News Update – More Lost this Season?!?

Thankfully Season 4 resumes in two weeks – here is some info to keep you thinking until then:

*As many of you have noted in previous post commentary, there is current speculation that we may get an additional hour of programming this season, as reported by Michael Ausiello of TVGuide.com – but it has not yet been confirmed if that will take the shape of another episode, or the more likely scenario of a two-hour season finale.

• If the dream becomes a reality, how would it work? As it stands, Lost’s Season 4 climax is slated to air on May 22 on a season-finale-themed night that also includes the cappers of Ugly Betty and Grey’s Anatomy. So would the additional Lost hour be broadcast the following Thursday? Or would it perhaps run on another night?

• What does this do to the finale that was going to air on May 22? Would elements of it be incorporated into the new finale? Would this 14th hour come before that episode? And since we were originally supposed to get 16 eppies this season before the strike cut that number back to 13, does this mean we would now be getting a season finale that is more in line with what Darlton intended? Or more exposition that they ran out of time to include? The mind boggles.

I would prefer a two-hour finale vs. an additional episode that’s mashed into the mix somewhere – what do you think?

*Kristin Dos Santos of E! Online is also confirming this news, as noted in this post from yesterday afternoon:

It is looking “highly likely” (yay!) that there will be an additional hour of Lost for season four, for a total of six hours coming up in the spring run, starting April 24.
Producers pitched the idea of a two-hour finale to ABC, and if they end up getting an extra hour but it is not to extend the finale, well…that could be messy.

The sense among insiders is that ABC execs very much want to make this happen, but like I said, they have not yet had a chance to respond. Fingers crossed they will soon and it’ll be the right (i.e. “yes”) decision!

She also referenced that ABC and the producers were at a point in the discussion where this was “much too early to report”…

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155 Responses to Lost News Update – More Lost this Season?!?

  1. a. says:

    I’m rather certain in a recent podcast darlton mentioned the season finale will be 2 hours like other season finales, although whether it would be broadcast in a 2 hour slot or two 1 hour slots was still being discussed because of a clash with the 2 hour finale of grays anatomy. They also said that this finale will be basically 2 episodes joined up just like every other 2 hour episode has been produced with the exception of the pilot.

  2. TanziTwo says:

    My vote – I would like to see a separate single episode on May 29th. That would give us a whole extra week of “reflect & ponder” time AND narrow the gap between season 4 and 5. I know that, technically, a finale on 29 May would fall outside of the “May Sweeps” where the network converts its’ ratings to cash… but heck – we all know that we are going to watch anyway. In fact, moving the finale back a week may actually equate to better ratings because LOST won’t be competing with other “finales” – the competition will have gone back to reruns.

  3. PJSander says:

    [quote comment="208147"]I’m rather certain in a recent podcast darlton mentioned the season finale will be 2 hours like other season finales, although whether it would be broadcast in a 2 hour slot or two 1 hour slots was still being discussed because of a clash with the 2 hour finale of grays anatomy. They also said that this finale will be basically 2 episodes joined up just like every other 2 hour episode has been produced with the exception of the pilot.[/quote]

    As I remember it, D&C said that we would have five episodes including the season finale that would be shown in two parts (two episodes) in order to allow Grey’s Anatomy to have their two hour season finale.

    This fits with the original plan to air five episodes beginning April 24, with the last episode on May 22nd.

    I don’t think the sixth hour was originally planned, though I do suspect that it will be an additional HOUR of the season finale rather than a stand alone episode.

    : ) P

  4. Michael says:

    So was it originally supposes to be i one hour finally?

  5. lost4ever says:

    If they get rid of the Eli Stone and Deperate Housewives promos for those 5 weeks, it should open up an hour of airtime.

  6. PJSander says:

    [quote comment="208221"]So was it originally supposes to be i one hour finally?[/quote]

    Sort of.

    They said it was a two hour finale, spread over two weeks, but alluded to the fact that it would count as two episodes. Which make sense since they said they would return April 24th with five new episodes (4/24, 5/1, 5/8, 5/15, and 5/22).

    HTH,
    : ) P

  7. PJSander says:

    [quote comment="208444"]They said it was a two hour finale, spread over two weeks, but alluded to the fact that it would count as two episodes. Which make sense since they said they would return April 24th with five new episodes (4/24, 5/1, 5/8, 5/15, and 5/22).[/quote]

    Replying to myself (as one is want to do during periods of high stress, such as a night without even a REPEAT of LOST)…

    Okay, I went back and listened to the podcast where D&C discussed the season finale. My interpretation of what they said may well be wrong. I think I took IT together with the episode layout (4/24, 5/1, 5/8, 5/15, and 5/22) and possibly made assumptions. I will transcribe their words – so each of you can come to your own conclusion until we hear “the real news” from the horses’ mouths:

    DAMON: … we’re peeling into the two-hour finale, which this year is going to air separate hours because Grey’s Anatomy, they get to, they get to do a two hour finale. So, we’ve got to break ours in half in order to stay on Thursday.

    CARLTON: Right, but…

    DAMON: … but we did that with the pilot so…

    CARLTON: Well good.

    I am not sure this makes ANYTHING more clear!

    LOL

    : ) P

  8. Michael says:

    DAMON: … we’re peeling into the two-hour finale, which this year is going to air separate hours because Grey’s Anatomy, they get to, they get to do a two hour finale. So, we’ve got to break ours in half in order to stay on Thursday.

    CARLTON: Right, but…

    DAMON: … but we did that with the pilot so…

    CARLTON: Well good.

    I am not sure this makes ANYTHING more clear!

    LOL

    : ) P

    +_+_+_+_+_+

    HA. No not really.

    So if they give us an extra hour, what are we gonna get. Think they had something planned for this. Maybe some stuff off the cutting room floor. F/B or F/F of multiple charaters.

  9. Rita says:

    [quote comment="208640"]DAMON: … we’re peeling into the two-hour finale, which this year is going to air separate hours because Grey’s Anatomy, they get to, they get to do a two hour finale. So, we’ve got to break ours in half in order to stay on Thursday.

    CARLTON: Right, but…

    DAMON: … but we did that with the pilot so…

    CARLTON: Well good.

    I am not sure this makes ANYTHING more clear!

    LOL

    : ) P

    +_+_+_+_+_+

    HA. No not really.

    So if they give us an extra hour, what are we gonna get. Think they had something planned for this. Maybe some stuff off the cutting room floor. F/B or F/F of multiple charaters.[/quote]
    ***********************
    Yes, they said in LOST magazine that we were losing some of the back stories of the tots (due to shortening the season), so maybe they will put some of that back in. I really hope so. I would be very interested in their stories.

  10. lost4ever says:

    Why can they not just come back a week early? PPPPLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEcome back a week early.

    here’s an anagram I have not heard yet. But then again I haven’t read every SINGLE post on this entire blog, meaning From year 1 to current post.
    richard alpert—trap rare child
    rare child trap

  11. Polli Kovitch says:

    THE PROMISED KISS IS EVERYWHERE:
    Finale Kiss will “complicate” the triangle

    So..who: 1) Jack and Kate (sounds plausible and possible);
    2) Jack and Juliet (mmm a continuation and probable);
    3) Kate and Juliet (not likely)
    4) Kate and Sawyer(been there)
    5) Sawyer and Jack (never)
    So, which triangle…???

  12. Michael says:

    [quote comment="209153"]THE PROMISED KISS IS EVERYWHERE:
    Finale Kiss will “complicate” the triangle

    So..who: 1) Jack and Kate (sounds plausible and possible);
    2) Jack and Juliet (mmm a continuation and probable);
    3) Kate and Juliet (not likely)
    4) Kate and Sawyer(been there)
    5) Sawyer and Jack (never)
    So, which triangle…???[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_+_+

    Ben and Juliet!

  13. TanziTwo says:

    [quote comment="209153"]
    THE PROMISED KISS IS EVERYWHERE: So, which triangle…???
    [/quote]
    That’s a no brainer.
    The lovely, tempermental, yet very elegant, “Smokey” takes a hankering to the rough n’ready, “Vincent”.
    In a few months we may see a litter of very gassy puppies romping around the island. :)

  14. Missy says:

    [quote comment="209168"][quote comment="209153"]
    THE PROMISED KISS IS EVERYWHERE: So, which triangle…???
    [/quote]
    That’s a no brainer.
    The lovely, tempermental, yet very elegant, “Smokey” takes a hankering to the rough n’ready, “Vincent”.
    In a few months we may see a litter of very gassy puppies romping around the island. :)[/quote]

    That is hilairious!!! Now, that WOULD be something (:

  15. PJSander says:

    BIG NEWS!

    *THIS JUST IN*

    According to tvguide . com, a 14th hour of Season 4 has been confirmed by ABC. I quote Michael Ausiello (LONG LIVE Michael Ausiello):

    “I can now confirm what I first teased earlier this week: Team Darlton has sealed a deal with ABC to bring us an extra hour of Lost this season.

    *snip*

    With a 14th hour of Lost now a done deal, the show’s finale will swell to three hours. But, in what can only be described as an unorthodox scheduling move, the first hour of that finale will air on May 15, and then we have to wait two weeks — until May 29 — to get the last two hours! That’s right, no Lost on May 22.

    Why?

    Apparently, Darlton convinced ABC that the final two hours had to air together. And with the finales of Grey’s and Ugly Betty already slated for May 22 at 8 and 9 pm respectively, ABC really had no other choice than to sked Lost’s two-hour exit for May 29.

    *snip*

    “We are very excited and grateful to [ABC president] Steve McPherson for working out the scheduling difficulties to allow us to make the second part of our finale two hours,” says exec producer Carlton Cuse. “Damon and I were working on the script and we just couldn’t get it all done in one hour without shortchanging the story. Now the finale will have all the sweep and emotional completeness we wanted it to have — along with, of course, answering who’s in the coffin.””

    – – – – –
    Oops, there’s the C word!

    So we now get the sixth hour discussed above. Now the question is… we have been promised 48 episodes for seasons four through six. Does this “three hour finale” count as three episodes or just one very long one? I know I am being greedy, but if it counts as one very long one, then we are only getting twelve EPISODES (spanning fourteen hours). Can we look forward to still getting “back” the two missing episodes? I kind of doubt it, but one can hope!

    : ) P

  16. Trixanna says:

    Thanks for the info PJ. That is the best news I have heard all day! Wooohoooo!!!! I am getting very antsy for another episode. I think my LA sponsor needs a sponsor of her own now… LOL!!! I did get somewhat of a LOST fix with the LOST magazine last week though.

    As for the “Kiss”, I agree that it could be Ben and Juliet, or maybe Ben and Claire? If Ben is involved, I will be grossed out no matter who he kisses, even if it is Vincent!

  17. Polli Kovitch says:

    [quote comment="209153"]THE PROMISED KISS IS EVERYWHERE:
    Finale Kiss will “complicate” the triangle

    mmmm the idea of Ben and Juliet is intertesting. ..Ben always complicates. He is the perpetual “Complicator” ..but, there will be nothing spectacular about him kissing anyone ( I agree with Trixanna on this one). No, it has to be HOT. So, here are some other possibilities..continuing from my first list of five:
    6) Sawyer and Claire
    7) Desmond and Pennie

  18. Polli Kovitch says:

    Also..great news about the additional extended finale.

  19. MICHAEL says:

    I Definitely think Ben & Juliet in front of maybe Locke. Then Locke tells Jack. That way it give info to Locke that he can use to his advantage. Ben gets to be the little monster he is. Juliet can be the tool she is and Jack, well poor Jack.

  20. kalusoru says:

    lost is one of the great series that i have ever watched…Travel Maldives Blog

  21. Polli Kovitch says:

    [quote comment="209707"]I Definitely think Ben & Juliet in front of maybe Locke. Then Locke tells Jack. That way it give info to Locke that he can use to his advantage. Ben gets to be the little monster he is. Juliet can be the tool she is and Jack, well poor Jack.[/quote]

    Go, Michael. So, if it is Juliet..then it is mutual. That would be a plot twist. Somehow I wonder how Claire is involved in all of this. Since, we know Aaron makes it and she does not. Or, maybe she does.

  22. Hammer says:

    I think Hugo and Libby. She (via whisper theory) becomes an apparition to Hugo…big emotional spectacular kiss(so of like the movie Ghost but without Whoopi)…and the whispers get exposed. *grin*

  23. Michael says:

    Somehow I wonder how Claire is involved in all of this. Since, we know Aaron makes it and she does not. Or, maybe she does.

    _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+

    We know that Claire wants to talk to Miles. Now that Ben is out of the cage that might happen. Ben would now that Clair and Jack are related. Locke is not going to let Clair leave his camp. Ok. So I see Locke Trying to get on Jack side with the Juliet kissing Ben info. To counteract this Ben Gives Jack the “Clair is you sister and Locke wont let her leave” info. That takes Jacks mind off Juliet and onto Clair and Locke. I’m getting a bad feeling about Locke and he’s my favorite character. Clair might be the “C” Word.

    Kate’s got to have something going on with Miles and Sawyer. They Might try to get on in the money that Miles is asking for. They Both no about it and they both make bad decisions when it comes to criminal behavior.

  24. Michael says:

    [quote comment="209877"]I think Hugo and Libby. She (via whisper theory) becomes an apparition to Hugo…big emotional spectacular kiss(so of like the movie Ghost but without Whoopi)…and the whispers get exposed. *grin*[/quote]
    +_++__+_+_+_+_

    Nice.

    We haven’t seen any Physical contact with the whispers yet have we.

    There could be lots of kisses going on. We just had Juliet and Jack.

    Man like that one. Puts Libby in the picture. Furthers Hugo spot in the plot. Could give us info on the whispers. Makes since that it happened to Hugo seeing on he saw Jacob and the cabin & Charlie.

  25. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="209894"][quote comment="209877"]I think Hugo and Libby. She (via whisper theory) becomes an apparition to Hugo…big emotional spectacular kiss(so of like the movie Ghost but without Whoopi)…and the whispers get exposed. *grin*[/quote]
    +_++__+_+_+_+_

    Nice.

    We haven’t seen any Physical contact with the whispers yet have we.

    There could be lots of kisses going on. We just had Juliet and Jack.

    Man like that one. Puts Libby in the picture. Furthers Hugo spot in the plot. Could give us info on the whispers. Makes since that it happened to Hugo seeing on he saw Jacob and the cabin & Charlie.[/quote]
    ++++++++++
    A little far fetched…but one can dream.

  26. Michael says:

    So Miles can talk to the dead. Claire wants to talk to Miles. Claires dad is dead and on the island with Jacob.

  27. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="209924"]So Miles can talk to the dead. Claire wants to talk to Miles. Claires dad is dead and on the island with Jacob.[/quote]
    You are on to something there. Might be how Claire/Jack learn they are related. I think Ben likely already knows.

  28. Michael says:

    [quote comment="209937"][quote comment="209924"]So Miles can talk to the dead. Claire wants to talk to Miles. Claire’s dad is dead and on the island with Jacob.[/quote]
    You are on to something there. Might be how Claire/Jack learns they are related. I think Ben likely already knows.[/quote]

    +_+_+_+_+_+_

    He some how is going to use that information to his advantage.

    Bens New team is pretty bad ass. Locke, Michael/Kevin, Sayid, Miles. Now i know Miles shouldn’t be considered with Ben. But he wants something from Ben. And Ben can spin anything into his favor.

    Oh, Ben puts jack in a situation Like….. Its either Juliet or Clair, by the way Claire is you sister! Choose. That sounds like something Ben does and does well.

  29. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="209944"]

    He some how is going to use that information to his advantage.

    Bens New team is pretty bad ass. Locke, Michael/Kevin, Sayid, Miles. Now i know Miles shouldn’t be considered with Ben. But he wants something from Ben. And Ben can spin anything into his favor.

    Oh, Ben puts jack in a situation Like….. Its either Juliet or Clair, by the way Claire is you sister! Choose. That sounds like something Ben does and does well.[/quote]That would be something if my hi-jacked helicopter theory happens. It might explain why Jack can’t be around Aaron…if he chose Juliet over Claire. (No, I don’t think Juliet is an O6, but if they escape on their own she can go back to her old life and not be part of the O6 lore. Same for Des.)

  30. Michael says:

    Like it. That will be horrible. Jack Choosing Juliet over Claire. Then he comes to find out that Juliet is working for Ben the Whole time. So the heart broken Jack leaves his newly found sister behind for a woman who used him to get off the island. Plus he jacked up his relationship with Kate over Juliet. His conscience is hating him. There would be no way he could look Aaron in the eyes.

    Very plausible Juliet is off the Island & I would say Ben still has a bit of control over her. He said she could leave the island and she has. He didn’t agree to any thing else.

  31. PJSander says:

    [quote comment="209887"]Clair might be the “C” Word.
    [/quote]

    Anything is possible, but since Aaron is an O6 and Claire is not, I doubt it. The only way that could be Claire, is if she made it off the island with an assumed identity. I doubt she would get off the island and NOT have contact with Aaron.

    : ) P

  32. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="209947"]That would be something if my hi-jacked helicopter theory happens. It might explain why Jack can’t be around Aaron…if he chose Juliet over Claire. (No, I don’t think Juliet is an O6, but if they escape on their own she can go back to her old life and not be part of the O6 lore. Same for Des.)[/quote]
    Liked your theory about hi-jacking the chopper. That why I originally mention it in the “Lost-Hiatus Update” thread, comment number 3.

  33. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="209924"]So Miles can talk to the dead. Claire wants to talk to Miles. Claires dad is dead and on the island with Jacob.[/quote]
    Does Claire know that Miles can talk to the dead?

  34. Michael says:

    [quote comment="209973"][quote comment="209924"]So Miles can talk to the dead. Claire wants to talk to Miles. Claires dad is dead and on the island with Jacob.[/quote]
    Does Claire know that Miles can talk to the dead?[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_

    Poably not. I don’t think any of the losties atual no what he is capaiple of. But they let us no that Claire wants to speek to him and with the abilities he has he might tell her that …
    ” Hey sorry your dad died,(not)Where you taking his body home?”

    Then of course she would have no idea what he is talking about. I don’t even think she knows his name.

  35. Michael says:

    [quote comment="209974"][quote comment="209973"][quote comment="209924"]So Miles can talk to the dead. Claire wants to talk to Miles. Claires dad is dead and on the island with Jacob.[/quote]
    Does Claire know that Miles can talk to the dead?[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_

    Probably not. I don’t think any of the losties actual no what he is capable of. But they let us no that Claire wants to speak to him and with the abilities he has he might tell her that …
    ” Hey sorry your dad died(not).Were you taking his body home?” Something like that but with more words and written a lot better.

    Then of course she would have no idea what he is talking about. I don’t even think she knows her dads name.

  36. Michael says:

    [quote comment="209971"][quote comment="209887"]Clair might be the “C” Word.
    [/quote]

    Anything is possible, but since Aaron is an O6 and Claire is not, I doubt it. The only way that could be Claire, is if she made it off the island with an assumed identity. I doubt she would get off the island and NOT have contact with Aaron.

    : ) P[/quote]
    _+_+_+_+_+_+

    Totally agree. Jumped out of my head and wanted to hear what other people thought on it.

  37. Michael says:

    I think since money has been brought up Sawyer may have a new interest in Miles & Ben.

  38. Rita says:

    Back to the kiss idea: I think it likely it will be Ben and Juliet. This will be how we find out that Juliet is really working for Ben against the losties, and has been a mole in their camp this whole time. There’s something about her that I don’t trust.

  39. Michael says:

    [quote comment="210109"]Back to the kiss idea: I think it likely it will be Ben and Juliet. This will be how we find out that Juliet is really working for Ben against the losties, and has been a mole in their camp this whole time. There’s something about her that I don’t trust.[/quote]
    _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+

    Dido. She has that eerie calm & stare that Ben has. And I think she would do just about anything to get off the island.

  40. lost chicka says:

    [quote comment="208672"][quote comment="208640"]
    Yes, they said in LOST magazine that we were losing some of the back stories of the tots (due to shortening the season), so maybe they will put some of that back in. I really hope so. I would be very interested in their stories.[/quote]

    >> i’m intererested in the tots stories too. as long as we get to hear their stories i don’t care when we get to know about them as long as they’ll be shown before s6! (omgsh, i just realized that there’s only 2 1/2 more seasons!!!!)

  41. lost chicka says:

    [quote comment="209160"][quote comment="209153"]THE PROMISED KISS IS EVERYWHERE:
    Finale Kiss will “complicate” the triangle

    So..who: 1) Jack and Kate (sounds plausible and possible);
    2) Jack and Juliet (mmm a continuation and probable);
    3) Kate and Juliet (not likely)
    4) Kate and Sawyer(been there)
    5) Sawyer and Jack (never)
    So, which triangle…???[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_+_+

    Ben and Juliet![/quote]

    oh yes! or maybe vincent & mikhail’s kitty cat (what’s it’s name? nadia?). now that would be interesting.

  42. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="210109"]Back to the kiss idea: I think it likely it will be Ben and Juliet. This will be how we find out that Juliet is really working for Ben against the losties, and has been a mole in their camp this whole time. There’s something about her that I don’t trust.[/quote]
    I remember the beginning of season 3 and how Ben looked like he felt “cheated on” when he was not invited to the book club. Maybe she, at one point, was Ben’s, who knows? Maybe, after 3 years, she had enough of the island and seduced Ben. I wouldn’t put anything past her. We need another Ben FB.
    She is not to be trusted, IMO. She had an affair with a MARRIED man, considered a sacred covenant in some religions. She is about as trusting as Michael ( or is ).

  43. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="210139"][quote comment="208672"][quote comment="208640"]
    Yes, they said in LOST magazine that we were losing some of the back stories of the tots (due to shortening the season), so maybe they will put some of that back in. I really hope so. I would be very interested in their stories.[/quote]

    >> i’m intererested in the tots stories too. as long as we get to hear their stories i don’t care when we get to know about them as long as they’ll be shown before s6! (omgsh, i just realized that there’s only 2 1/2 more seasons!!!!)[/quote]
    —————-
    I am also interested in their stories. We had a split FB for them. I wonder if one of the tots will get their own? Probably not this year( time factor ), but hopefully S5, if they don’t ALL die.

  44. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="210140"][quote comment="209160"][quote comment="209153"]THE PROMISED KISS IS EVERYWHERE:
    Finale Kiss will “complicate” the triangle

    So..who: 1) Jack and Kate (sounds plausible and possible);
    2) Jack and Juliet (mmm a continuation and probable);
    3) Kate and Juliet (not likely)
    4) Kate and Sawyer(been there)
    5) Sawyer and Jack (never)
    So, which triangle…???[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_+_+

    Ben and Juliet![/quote]

    oh yes! or maybe vincent & mikhail’s kitty cat (what’s it’s name? nadia?). now that would be interesting.[/quote]
    ———–
    Jacob and Smokey

  45. Polli Kovitch says:

    From the trailer for the APRIL 24th episode:

    We see Hurley holding Aaron in his arms..looking out the window (presumably his and Sawyer’s place) and says..”Isn’t that Claire’s house?”…mmmmm something happens to Claire. BUT..he does not react as if there has been an explosion…concerned but not in a panic. WHAT”S UP, Hurley?

  46. leah says:

    I,ve been away from a computer a while whats ‘the promised kiss’? Whats that all about ?anyone??

  47. Polli Kovitch says:

    [quote comment="210326"]I,ve been away from a computer a while whats ‘the promised kiss’? Whats that all about ?anyone??[/quote]
    From the pages of Lost Magazine comes this reference from Damon Lindelof saying that two characters will be sharing one spectacular kiss at the end of Season 4.

    “Romance is always blooming on and off the island. And just for you, I hereby promise you one of the most spectacular kisses you’ve ever seen on the show in this year’s finale.”

    Naturally, everyone’s right there with their guesses.

    So..HENCE..the speculation. I am now firmly voting for the Ben and Juliet scenario..though the thought of Ben…mmmm..not pretty.

  48. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="209972"][quote comment="209947"]That would be something if my hi-jacked helicopter theory happens. It might explain why Jack can’t be around Aaron…if he chose Juliet over Claire. (No, I don’t think Juliet is an O6, but if they escape on their own she can go back to her old life and not be part of the O6 lore. Same for Des.)[/quote]
    Liked your theory about hi-jacking the chopper. That why I originally mention it in the “Lost-Hiatus Update” thread, comment number 3.[/quote]

    +++++++++
    Oops, didn’t remember that. Credit is yours.

  49. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="210341"][quote comment="209972"][quote comment="209947"]That would be something if my hi-jacked helicopter theory happens. It might explain why Jack can’t be around Aaron…if he chose Juliet over Claire. (No, I don’t think Juliet is an O6, but if they escape on their own she can go back to her old life and not be part of the O6 lore. Same for Des.)[/quote]
    Liked your theory about hi-jacking the chopper. That why I originally mention it in the “Lost-Hiatus Update” thread, comment number 3.[/quote]

    +++++++++
    Oops, didn’t remember that. Credit is yours.[/quote]

    Just looked at your post. I was thinking Sayid since he did a little QC check in “Confirmed Dead” and Jack asked if was okay to fly. I figure Sayid’s military training?

  50. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="210347"][quote comment="210341"][quote comment="209972"][quote comment="209947"]That would be something if my hi-jacked helicopter theory happens. It might explain why Jack can’t be around Aaron…if he chose Juliet over Claire. (No, I don’t think Juliet is an O6, but if they escape on their own she can go back to her old life and not be part of the O6 lore. Same for Des.)[/quote]
    Liked your theory about hi-jacking the chopper. That why I originally mention it in the “Lost-Hiatus Update” thread, comment number 3.[/quote]

    +++++++++
    Oops, didn’t remember that. Credit is yours.[/quote]

    Just looked at your post. I was thinking Sayid since he did a little QC check in “Confirmed Dead” and Jack asked if was okay to fly. I figure Sayid’s military training?[/quote]
    ————-
    Maybe Desmond also. At the time I wrote that about Jack, I had just watched the pilot.

  51. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="210351"]
    ————-
    Maybe Desmond also. At the time I wrote that about Jack, I had just watched the pilot.[/quote]
    Des is on the boat. I am assuming that when the chopper left, it went to the island. I am also assuming that(if you are right about the hijacking) that it will take place before Des comes back.

  52. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="210353"][quote comment="210351"]
    ————-
    Maybe Desmond also. At the time I wrote that about Jack, I had just watched the pilot.[/quote]
    Des is on the boat. I am assuming that when the chopper left, it went to the island. I am also assuming that(if you are right about the hijacking) that it will take place before Des comes back.[/quote]
    Wow, big mistake there…Sayid is on the boat too.

  53. Lins says:

    “Romance is always blooming on and off the island. And just for you, I hereby promise you one of the most spectacular kisses you’ve ever seen on the show in this year’s finale.”

    ********************
    Any significance in the “on and OFF the island” remark? Seems weird that they would mention both. I’ll go out on a limb and vote for Michael and Sun assuming Jin dies in the “impending war…”

  54. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="210395"]“Romance is always blooming on and off the island. And just for you, I hereby promise you one of the most spectacular kisses you’ve ever seen on the show in this year’s finale.”

    ********************
    Any significance in the “on and OFF the island” remark? Seems weird that they would mention both. I’ll go out on a limb and vote for Michael and Sun assuming Jin dies in the “impending war…”[/quote]
    Most likley something to it…I’ve been holding off, but I’m gonna guess Kate and Sawyer, she’ll be getting off the island and he’ll be staying on.

  55. leah says:

    thank you Polli Kovitch.
    my moneys on des and penny widmore

  56. SpinPapi says:

    My guess is Sun and Michael, probably off-island in the future. There is a moment in one of the 2-minute mobisodes where it seems as if Michael and Jin are about to kiss, and there were moments of slight flirtation in a couple regular episodes, too, not counting the moment where Michael first approached Sun on the beach about something and Jin ordered her to cover up more by buttoning her shirt up completely.

    They’ve also made a point of saying how her baby looks like Jin. Maybe she was aware of the possibility of it looking like Michael as well? Definitely would stir up the pot a bit!

    =]

  57. Lins says:

    [quote comment="210523"]My guess is Sun and Michael, probably off-island in the future. There is a moment in one of the 2-minute mobisodes where it seems as if Michael and Jin are about to kiss, and there were moments of slight flirtation in a couple regular episodes, too, not counting the moment where Michael first approached Sun on the beach about something and Jin ordered her to cover up more by buttoning her shirt up completely.

    They’ve also made a point of saying how her baby looks like Jin. Maybe she was aware of the possibility of it looking like Michael as well? Definitely would stir up the pot a bit!

    =][/quote]

    Exactly what I was thinking…any kiss involving Jack, Kate, Sawyer, or Juliette seems too predictable. Of course, there are exceptions to that opinion too!

  58. RGS says:

    [quote comment="210537"][quote comment="210523"]My guess is Sun and Michael, probably off-island in the future. There is a moment in one of the 2-minute mobisodes where it seems as if Michael and Jin are about to kiss, and there were moments of slight flirtation in a couple regular episodes, too, not counting the moment where Michael first approached Sun on the beach about something and Jin ordered her to cover up more by buttoning her shirt up completely.

    They’ve also made a point of saying how her baby looks like Jin. Maybe she was aware of the possibility of it looking like Michael as well? Definitely would stir up the pot a bit!

    =][/quote]

    Exactly what I was thinking…any kiss involving Jack, Kate, Sawyer, or Juliette seems too predictable. Of course, there are exceptions to that opinion too![/quote]
    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Though those characters seem predictable, imo, in order for the kiss to come off as spectacular, I would think we the viewers have to have a little something invested in the participants, either because we know something about the future or the moment had been building up. Unless the writers mean spectacularly shocking.

    So I’m throwing my little endorsement to…Jin & Sun for no overwhelming reason.

    Lol, um, Spin are you sure the mobisode had a moment of trepidation between Michael and JIN?

  59. Michael says:

    Romance is always blooming on and off the island. And just for you, I hereby promise you one of the most spectacular kisses you’ve ever seen on the show in this year’s finale.”

    +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_

    I don’t think who kisses will be the spectacular part.

    But the “on and off the island” remark throws in a different element.

    I’m thinking that could just be a reference to like Sayid & his romance with the girl he kills.

  60. SpinPapi says:

    [quote comment="210540"]
    Lol, um, Spin are you sure the mobisode had a moment of trepidation between Michael and JIN?[/quote]

    Hellz yeah! I just watched it again. If you haven’t seen it, definitely take a look (link below). Michael consoles her, hugs her, brushes her hair, fingers lingering on her cheek, and slowly moves in for a kiss — only to be interrupted by Valiant Vincent.

  61. SpinPapi says:

    [quote comment="210540"]
    Lol, um, Spin are you sure the mobisode had a moment of trepidation between Michael and JIN?[/quote]

    Oops I meant Michael & Sun. I guess that was wishful thinking on my part. LOL.

    =]

  62. DocH says:

    - big kiss… i am going to go with jack and kate. the big love triangle since 1.1 has been jack-kate-sawyer.

    – regarding kate, sawyer has been there, done that, and then chose to stay in the barracks with locke. even though james and kate had the skinny dipping for guns, the amor in the polar bear cage, the afternoon delight/booty-call in the beach tent – james decided that the island is his destiny.

    – jack and kate have always had an attraction, they have always had that certain sexual tension. recently jack said that he loved kate and, we have all the – we have to go back – action, the – won’t visit you thing – after trial. kate is sticking close to jack during the rescue scenario. i know that jack has found comfort in juliet’s arms too, but, i think juliet will become a a betrayer in the end and that the kate-jack kiss will be the big closer for the season.

    [and i have always routed for the sawyer-kate connection]

  63. Rita says:

    [quote comment="210555"]- big kiss… i am going to go with jack and kate. the big love triangle since 1.1 has been jack-kate-sawyer.

    – regarding kate, sawyer has been there, done that, and then chose to stay in the barracks with locke. even though james and kate had the skinny dipping for guns, the amor in the polar bear cage, the afternoon delight/booty-call in the beach tent – james decided that the island is his destiny.

    – jack and kate have always had an attraction, they have always had that certain sexual tension. recently jack said that he loved kate and, we have all the – we have to go back – action, the – won’t visit you thing – after trial. kate is sticking close to jack during the rescue scenario. i know that jack has found comfort in juliet’s arms too, but, i think juliet will become a a betrayer in the end and that the kate-jack kiss will be the big closer for the season.

    [and i have always routed for the sawyer-kate connection][/quote]
    *****************
    I completely agree.

  64. DocH says:

    plus… all finales equal kate and jack. s1 – they were at the hatch together. s2 – they got captured at the ferry together. s3 – they met [ff] at the airport – first time the – i love you kate – came across. the second – i love you kate – was this season. wanna bet the s4 finale has kate and jack. bet they are rescued – and o-sixers – and the end of the season – s4e14. jack may even get an – i love jack – from kate.

    [hammer - qatar in 7 hours, debrief, baltimore by late sunday, home by tuesday, sleep and eat bunches, awake by episode 9 on next thursday.]

    8]

  65. lost4ever says:

    I wish we knew what they meant by “spectacular”. For me, there are 2 main reasons behind a “spectacular kiss”. The 2 people (sorry Vincent) haven’t seen each other for a while, or won’t see each other maybe ever again. Does anyone else have thoughts on the term “spectacular kiss”? Is spectacular also shocking?
    For me, Kate and anyone wouldn’t be that spectacular. Been there, seen that. ( Unless it is Ben ).

  66. leah says:

    [quote comment="210711"]I wish we knew what they meant by “spectacular”.

    For me, there are 2 main reasons behind a “spectacular kiss”. The 2 people (sorry Vincent) haven’t seen each other for a while, or won’t see each other maybe ever again. Does anyone else have thoughts on the term “spectacular kiss”? Is spectacular also shocking?
    For me, Kate and anyone wouldn’t be that spectacular. Been there, seen that. ( Unless it is Ben ).[/quote]
    //////////////////////////////
    How about mr friendly and someone?

  67. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="210616"]

    [hammer - qatar in 7 hours, debrief, baltimore by late sunday, home by tuesday, sleep and eat bunches, awake by episode 9 on next thursday.]

    8][/quote]
    Cool, we get conserned when we don’t hear from you.

  68. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="210744"][quote comment="210711"]I wish we knew what they meant by “spectacular”.

    For me, there are 2 main reasons behind a “spectacular kiss”. The 2 people (sorry Vincent) haven’t seen each other for a while, or won’t see each other maybe ever again. Does anyone else have thoughts on the term “spectacular kiss”? Is spectacular also shocking?
    For me, Kate and anyone wouldn’t be that spectacular. Been there, seen that. ( Unless it is Ben ).[/quote]
    //////////////////////////////
    How about mr friendly and someone?[/quote]
    Tom is dead. I guess it could be in an FB, but that wouldn’t do anything for the plot.

  69. Michael says:

    I wish we knew what they meant by “spectacular”.

    _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_

    I believe the “spectacular” going to be what type of kiss, where it’s at and when it’s happening.

    Kudos to Doch and Rita For summarizing and putting to get there the Kate Jack, Finale connection.

    Last4ever- You mentions maybe Ben. I thought that yesterday and didn’t put it up because it sounded a little far fetched at the time. But thing about it, it still sounds far fetch but it got brought up. At the end of season three at the air port Kate said she has to get back that he is waiting for her. When we found out that she had Aaron I assumed she was talking about him. But i watched it again last night and she seemed more scared than concern about getting back to him who is waiting on her. And would a baby be waiting on anyone?

    Where i was going with that is that Ben is off the Island and he could be waiting for her.

  70. PJSander says:

    [quote comment="210755"]At the end of season three at the air port Kate said she has to get back that he is waiting for her. When we found out that she had Aaron I assumed she was talking about him. But i watched it again last night and she seemed more scared than concern about getting back to him who is waiting on her. And would a baby be waiting on anyone?

    Where i was going with that is that Ben is off the Island and he could be waiting for her.[/quote]

    Oh, that completely turns my stomach, but still DOES make sense. It fits with why she says “he” like “he who must not be named.” When I saw that episode, I really thought it was odd that she said “he” with any emphasis. We, the audience, would have wondered who HE was without her emphasizing that. But once again, euwch! I suppose Ben could be the one waiting for Kate without them being involved romantically.

    And to that spectacular kiss, I know you are all sick of me and my speculation that Charlie could have escaped the Looking Glass Hatch. How fabulous would it be if he found his way to Claire? That WOULD BE pretty spectacular!

    Just a thought *G*

    : ) P

  71. Jaime says:

    [quote comment="210711"]I wish we knew what they meant by “spectacular”.

    For me, there are 2 main reasons behind a “spectacular kiss”. The 2 people (sorry Vincent) haven’t seen each other for a while, or won’t see each other maybe ever again. Does anyone else have thoughts on the term “spectacular kiss”? Is spectacular also shocking?
    For me, Kate and anyone wouldn’t be that spectacular. Been there, seen that. ( Unless it is Ben ).[/quote]

    ####################################
    My vote is for SHOCKING!!!! I think it’s going to be between 2 people that haven’t even been discussed yet. Not people like Ben/Juliet or Jack/Kate/Sawyer. IMO
    I also think that it’s going to take place off the island. Maybe Jack/Sara, Sayid/Nadia, Sara/Christian(FB), Alpert/?, Widmore/?, Libby/Desmond, Libby/?

  72. Jaime says:

    [quote comment="210758"][quote comment="210755"]At the end of season three at the air port Kate said she has to get back that he is waiting for her. When we found out that she had Aaron I assumed she was talking about him. But i watched it again last night and she seemed more scared than concern about getting back to him who is waiting on her. And would a baby be waiting on anyone?

    Where i was going with that is that Ben is off the Island and he could be waiting for her.[/quote]

    And to that spectacular kiss, I know you are all sick of me and my speculation that Charlie could have escaped the Looking Glass Hatch. How fabulous would it be if he found his way to Claire? That WOULD BE pretty spectacular!

    Just a thought *G*

    : ) P[/quote]
    ###############################
    You’re right PJ that would be Spectacular. Although Charlie did say the Hurley that he was “dead and also here” when he “visited” him at Santa Rosa’s

  73. Jaime says:

    Here’s your chance to have your hypothesis graded by the experts – Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, executive producers of the ABC drama (returning April 24, 10 p.m. ET/PT). In 200 words or less, give us your explanation of any or all of the myriad mysteries: the island, the survivors of Flight 815, The Others, Dharma and any of the other baffling questions that have made Lost TV’s top brain-teaser.

    USA TODAY will publish some of the best contributions, online and in print — and forward a handful to the Lost braintrust who will evaluate them for originality, completeness, logic, etc., without spoiling future episodes by indicating if your theory is right, wrong or really wrong. (Disclaimer: No real Lost secrets will harmed in this process.)

    Follow these rules — or else your e-mail will be eaten by the smoke monster:

    •E-mail your masterpiece to jdeerwes@usatoday.com by Wednesday, April 16 at 5 p.m. ET

    •Please include your contact information: Full name, city, and a phone number where you can be reached for confirmation

    •Keep it to 200 words or less

    •Use the subject line “Lost theory”
    Source: USA Today

  74. Michael says:

    [quote comment="210758"][quote comment="210755"]At the end of season three at the air port Kate said she has to get back that he is waiting for her. When we found out that she had Aaron I assumed she was talking about him. But i watched it again last night and she seemed more scared than concern about getting back to him who is waiting on her. And would a baby be waiting on anyone?

    Where i was going with that is that Ben is off the Island and he could be waiting for her.[/quote]

    Oh, that completely turns my stomach, but still DOES make sense. It fits with why she says “he” like “he who must not be named.” When I saw that episode, I really thought it was odd that she said “he” with any emphasis. We, the audience, would have wondered who HE was without her emphasizing that. But once again, euwch! I suppose Ben could be the one waiting for Kate without them being involved romantically.

    And to that spectacular kiss, I know you are all sick of me and my speculation that Charlie could have escaped the Looking Glass Hatch. How fabulous would it be if he found his way to Claire? That WOULD BE pretty spectacular!

    Just a thought *G*

    : ) P[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_

    Charlie and Claire might be the Most Spectacular Kiss available. Sayid and Nadia Would be pretty romantic. Ben and Kate would be discussing.

    Locke might be the only person on the Island who hasn’t looked for a romantic connection ( other than the island). If he’s left with Danielle?

  75. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="210786"]Here’s your chance to have your hypothesis graded by the experts – Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, executive producers of the ABC drama (returning April 24, 10 p.m. ET/PT). In 200 words or less, give us your explanation of any or all of the myriad mysteries: the island, the survivors of Flight 815, The Others, Dharma and any of the other baffling questions that have made Lost TV’s top brain-teaser.

    USA TODAY will publish some of the best contributions, online and in print — and forward a handful to the Lost braintrust who will evaluate them for originality, completeness, logic, etc., without spoiling future episodes by indicating if your theory is right, wrong or really wrong. (Disclaimer: No real Lost secrets will harmed in this process.)

    Follow these rules — or else your e-mail will be eaten by the smoke monster:

    •E-mail your masterpiece to jdeerwes@usatoday.com by Wednesday, April 16 at 5 p.m. ET

    •Please include your contact information: Full name, city, and a phone number where you can be reached for confirmation

    •Keep it to 200 words or less

    •Use the subject line “Lost theory”
    Source: USA Today[/quote]

    Thanks for the info. Gonna try the Whisper Theory out!

  76. PJSander says:

    [quote comment="210781"]You’re right PJ that would be Spectacular. Although Charlie did say the Hurley that he was “dead and also here” when he “visited” him at Santa Rosa’s[/quote]

    He did say that, yes. But it MIGHT be because the only way he was allowed OFF the island was to “play dead” and take on an assumed identity. So to the world at large he IS dead, but really he was “there.”

    The weird thing is that I am not a big Dominic Monaghan fan. I didn’t even care that much about the character of Charlie. I just don’t think his story is finished.

    I’ll try to stop obsessing *G*.

    : ) P

  77. Jaime says:

    [quote comment="210821"][quote comment="210781"]You’re right PJ that would be Spectacular. Although Charlie did say the Hurley that he was “dead and also here” when he “visited” him at Santa Rosa’s[/quote]

    He did say that, yes. But it MIGHT be because the only way he was allowed OFF the island was to “play dead” and take on an assumed identity. So to the world at large he IS dead, but really he was “there.”

    The weird thing is that I am not a big Dominic Monaghan fan. I didn’t even care that much about the character of Charlie. I just don’t think his story is finished.

    I’ll try to stop obsessing *G*.

    : ) P[/quote]
    ##########################
    I see what your saying…I like to tell myself that it’s not obsession but simply discussion of ideas :) lol

  78. Jaime says:

    [quote comment="210814"][quote comment="210786"]Here’s your chance to have your hypothesis graded by the experts – Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, executive producers of the ABC drama (returning April 24, 10 p.m. ET/PT). In 200 words or less, give us your explanation of any or all of the myriad mysteries: the island, the survivors of Flight 815, The Others, Dharma and any of the other baffling questions that have made Lost TV’s top brain-teaser.

    USA TODAY will publish some of the best contributions, online and in print — and forward a handful to the Lost braintrust who will evaluate them for originality, completeness, logic, etc., without spoiling future episodes by indicating if your theory is right, wrong or really wrong. (Disclaimer: No real Lost secrets will harmed in this process.)

    [/quote]

    Thanks for the info. Gonna try the Whisper Theory out![/quote]
    ###############################
    Great, your’re welcome. I actually thought of your theory when I posted the info. :) Keep in mind though that the deadline is today 5PM EST
    Let me know if you hear anything.

  79. SpinPapi says:

    [quote comment="210758"][quote comment="210755"]At the end of season three at the air port Kate said she has to get back that he is waiting for her. When we found out that she had Aaron I assumed she was talking about him. But i watched it again last night and she seemed more scared than concern about getting back to him who is waiting on her. And would a baby be waiting on anyone?

    Where i was going with that is that Ben is off the Island and he could be waiting for her.[/quote]

    Oh, that completely turns my stomach, but still DOES make sense. It fits with why she says “he” like “he who must not be named.” When I saw that episode, I really thought it was odd that she said “he” with any emphasis. We, the audience, would have wondered who HE was without her emphasizing that. But once again, euwch! I suppose Ben could be the one waiting for Kate without them being involved romantically.

    And to that spectacular kiss, I know you are all sick of me and my speculation that Charlie could have escaped the Looking Glass Hatch. How fabulous would it be if he found his way to Claire? That WOULD BE pretty spectacular!

    Just a thought *G*

    : ) P[/quote]
    PJ, I thought the *same thing* after watching Through the Looking Glass again recently. Aaron, waiting on her? Must be someone else there too. Same feeling when it was revealed that Aaron was in her house. Who else is there? Too easy —

    Also, the Charlie-Claire idea is great! We know that more than just individuals see certain apparitions (manifestations of the “monster”?) and hear the whispers, etc. Why not have Charlie manifest on the island somehow and kiss her goodbye? Would make a great bookend to the season, him having appeared already to Hurley.

    The producers also said every time the “monster” manifests (I’m putting it in quotes cuz it may not be so bad all the time after all…just like the Others aren’t), we learn something new about it. Perhaps in the season finale we will learn — that it can kiss?

    =]

  80. Michael says:

    Also, the Charlie-Claire idea is great! We know that more than just individuals see certain apparitions (manifestations of the “monster”?) and hear the whispers, etc. Why not have Charlie manifest on the island somehow and kiss her goodbye? Would make a great bookend to the season, him having appeared already to Hurley.

    The producers also said every time the “monster” manifests (I’m putting it in quotes cuz it may not be so bad all the time after all…just like the Others aren’t), we learn something new about it. Perhaps in the season finale we will learn — that it can kiss?

    +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+

    The Manifestations are not really theses people just the image of that person produced by Smokey. The Manifestations normally come to said person to get them to do something that Smokey wants. These manifestations come in familiar forms to each individual. No manifestation has made physical contact with a person other than Charlie slapping Hurly.

    Could Smokey manifest Charlie to get Claire to do something? Could it be done by a kiss?

  81. Rita says:

    Most of these “kiss” theories could be right. Any one of them has some decent logic to support it. I was just wondering about the “Kate/Ben” possibility. OK, hear me out (Yes, I know it would be disgusting): It would be shocking, it would be spectacular and unexpected. It would explain how Kate got the great big expensive house, and possibly who she “had to get back to”, as well as why Jack wouldn’t go to see Aaron (maybe it was really Ben he didn’t want to see, at Kate’s/Ben’s house, not really Aaron). Just another possibility, though I am still leaning towards Kate and Jack.

  82. jaime says:

    I’m sure some of you have already seen this, but I got a kick out of it and wanted to share

    http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1739531

  83. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="210882"]Most of these “kiss” theories could be right. Any one of them has some decent logic to support it. I was just wondering about the “Kate/Ben” possibility. OK, hear me out (Yes, I know it would be disgusting): It would be shocking, it would be spectacular and unexpected. It would explain how Kate got the great big expensive house, and possibly who she “had to get back to”, as well as why Jack wouldn’t go to see Aaron (maybe it was really Ben he didn’t want to see, at Kate’s/Ben’s house, not really Aaron). Just another possibility, though I am still leaning towards Kate and Jack.[/quote]
    I’m not sure why people are wondering about Kate and her expensive house. Even if she was on trial, wouldn’t she still be entitled to the same settlement as the rest of the O6? She might even get more if she claims to be the mother of Aaron.

  84. Michael says:

    [quote comment="210882"]Most of these “kiss” theories could be right. Any one of them has some decent logic to support it. I was just wondering about the “Kate/Ben” possibility. OK, hear me out (Yes, I know it would be disgusting): It would be shocking, it would be spectacular and unexpected. It would explain how Kate got the great big expensive house, and possibly who she “had to get back to”, as well as why Jack wouldn’t go to see Aaron (maybe it was really Ben he didn’t want to see, at Kate’s/Ben’s house, not really Aaron). Just another possibility, though I am still leaning towards Kate and Jack.[/quote]
    +_+_+_++_+_+_+_+_

    I do like thinking about that possibility. How badly would that piss off Jack? Ben hooking up with the Girl he loves. Perfect revenge for Ben. Payback for jack and Juliet (minus the face pounding.) Maybe the fact Ben was right is driving jack crazy.

    That scene where Kate gets home from court, heads up stare to check on Aaron. All worried until she picks him up…then the camera pans to Ben in the doorway.

    So we know Ben has some kinda of control over Sayid. Maybe Kate as well.. The “protector of the obis” might be keeping and eye on Hurley. I would think Suns Family would have a close eye on her.

    Sorry getting of topic. Spectacular Kiss!

  85. Michael says:

    [quote comment="210957"][quote comment="210882"]Most of these “kiss” theories could be right. Any one of them has some decent logic to support it. I was just wondering about the “Kate/Ben” possibility. OK, hear me out (Yes, I know it would be disgusting): It would be shocking, it would be spectacular and unexpected. It would explain how Kate got the great big expensive house, and possibly who she “had to get back to”, as well as why Jack wouldn’t go to see Aaron (maybe it was really Ben he didn’t want to see, at Kate’s/Ben’s house, not really Aaron). Just another possibility, though I am still leaning towards Kate and Jack.[/quote]
    I’m not sure why people are wondering about Kate and her expensive house. Even if she was on trial, wouldn’t she still be entitled to the same settlement as the rest of the O6? She might even get more if she claims to be the mother of Aaron.[/quote]

    +_+_+_+_+_+

    It’s a little weird. How she was would probably be known before she actual got any money. Not that she wouldn’t get the money. But was back to the main land and her identity was put into the media, She should have been snagged up by authorities before she establish a home and nanny.

  86. DocH says:

    Who says the Oceanic Six all get off the island the same way. Some may go by helicopter, others by boat, some through the Looking Glass. What we can assume is that somehow, they all come to the point that they all agree on an alibi (conspiracy) story, before their story hits the media.

    Kate may be first to get to the mainland (w/ Ben?) and set-up house before the rest of “the Six” start showing-up, or the fact that her felonious self is there for law enforcement to incarcerate. Alibis in-hand, the OA-6 saga goes public, to include the backstory on the “two” that did not make it back alive.

    What are the chances that, even with a common story, they are not aligned with the same power brokers? Some are protected by Ben, some by Widmore, others by Paik, plus whoever else. Although they have the same public story to tell, their ‘sponsors’ are pulling different strings in their private lives. Hence the strain between Jack & Kate, Jack & Hurley, Sayids’ compliance with Ben, no one visiting Sun except Hurley.

    Maybe the two that did not make it the “Oceanic Eight” are two that made it off-island, then decided not to buy into the media story OR chose not to align with any of the power brokers, snd were ‘eliminated’ so they would not expose the islands’ secrets. We all assume that the bad guys that want the island are in it to publicly exploit the island, like Jurrasic Park. What if the island is wanted for private exploitation? To enhance or improve only the lives and well-being of a select few, well-to-dos.

    Whatever happens the rest of this season, I’ll give anyone five-to-one odds that the fifth and sixth seasons of LOST are one heck of a roller coaster ride.

  87. Poli Kovitch says:

    WE KNOW THAT: Clarie does not make it back. SOMETHING goes wrong..and JACK does not want to see AARON…so, He had something do with WHY Claire does not get back.

    Spectacular Kiss..needs to either be a complete surprise..or between two of the hot characters…otherwise “spectacular” does not apply. Ben-Juliet..makes plot sense. Charlie (comes back) and Claire..unlikely.. Jack and either JUliet or Kate..always good; Sawyer can kiss anybody and it is good; Locke?…mmmm…who might he bond with?

  88. lost chicka says:

    does ben really know about everything? or does he just roll with everything and act like he’s not surprised so it looks like he knows?

    leah (c56): yes! if it’s off island, without a doubt it HAS to be Penny & Des. then I’ll really start crying – happy endings!

    michael (c26) or CHARLIE (&c30) i love that idea

  89. Michael says:

    [quote comment="211110"]does ben really know about everything? or does he just roll with everything and act like he’s not surprised so it looks like he knows?

    leah (c56): yes! if it’s off island, without a doubt it HAS to be Penny & Des. then I’ll really start crying – happy endings!

    michael (c26) or CHARLIE (&c30) i love that idea[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+

    I don’t think he knows everything but he does no allot. Plus, I would say he is a great judge of character. With those two things combined, he can almost predict what anyone can and will do.

  90. Michael says:

    We all assume that the bad guys that want the island are in it to publicly exploit the island, like Jurrasic Park. What if the island is wanted for private exploitation? To enhance or improve only the lives and well-being of a select few, well-to-dos.

    +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+

    I agree. Don’t believe that Widmore (if it’s him looking for it) wants to exploit the Island. Rather just take control of it. I don’t think Ben really believes that anyone wants to exploit the island. He is just afraid of losing control of it. Ben doesn’t normally tell the truth about something on the first try. He has to get caught in a lie one or two time before the truth come out.

  91. Poli Kovitch says:

    Since Des was not on 815 he could not technically be part of the
    O-6. Thus, there could be a REUNION between Pennie and Des…that could be the “spectacular” kiss. It is just far too early in the seasonal plot panaroma for them to re-connect. Way too soon. Though, I would cry, too.

  92. Michael says:

    [quote comment="211168"]Since Des was not on 815 he could not technically be part of the
    O-6. Thus, there could be a REUNION between Pennie and Des…that could be the “spectacular” kiss.

    It is just far too early in the seasonal plot panaroma for them to re-connect. Way too soon. Though, I would cry, too.[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_+_

    Agree that it is early for a Des and Penny Reunion. I think there going to have to be some sort of conflict with old man Wilmore first.

    Des was on the Island for three plus years. Has Ben or any of the others ever made a comment about him or even acknowledge he was there?

  93. Lins says:

    [quote comment="210845"]

    The Manifestations are not really theses people just the image of that person produced by Smokey. The Manifestations normally come to said person to get them to do something that Smokey wants. These manifestations come in familiar forms to each individual. No manifestation has made physical contact with a person other than Charlie slapping Hurly.

    [/quote]

    Well, if you count Kate’s horse as a manifestation, she was able to touch it…

  94. Michael says:

    [quote comment="211178"][quote comment="210845"]

    The Manifestations are not really theses people just the image of that person produced by Smokey. The Manifestations normally come to said person to get them to do something that Smokey wants. These manifestations come in familiar forms to each individual. No manifestation has made physical contact with a person other than Charlie slapping Hurly.

    [/quote]

    Well, if you count Kate’s horse as a manifestation, she was able to touch it…[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_+_+_

    Ahhhhh…Forgot about that one.

  95. Lins says:

    [quote comment="211175"][quote comment="211168"]Since Des was not on 815 he could not technically be part of the
    O-6. Thus, there could be a REUNION between Pennie and Des…that could be the “spectacular” kiss.

    It is just far too early in the seasonal plot panaroma for them to re-connect. Way too soon. Though, I would cry, too.[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_+_

    Agree that it is early for a Des and Penny Reunion. I think there going to have to be some sort of conflict with old man Wilmore first.

    Des was on the Island for three plus years. Has Ben or any of the others ever made a comment about him or even acknowledge he was there?[/quote]

    ******************
    This whole Des in the hatch thing has really been bugging me lately…obviously Ben and co. knew he was there because they knew when Jack and co. blew the hatch door and started living there (per Mr. Friendly’s speech to Jack, Locke, and Sawyer when they went looking for Michael after he took off to find Walt). So did Ben just not care that Des was there, did he just figure that someone needed to push the button so why not the kid that thinks the outside world will kill him and will stay in the hatch and do his job? Or is he really working with someone – Ben? Widmore? – and has some ulterior motive? Maybe I just need to watch more, but it seems a little fishy to me.

  96. rdizzle says:

    won’t the kiss be between desmond and penny? that seems pretty logical.. we’ve all wanted them to finally get back together for a while now….

  97. Toeknee says:

    [quote comment="210786"]Here’s your chance to have your hypothesis graded by the experts – Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, executive producers of the ABC drama (returning April 24, 10 p.m. ET/PT). In 200 words or less, give us your explanation of any or all of the myriad mysteries: the island, the survivors of Flight 815, The Others, Dharma and any of the other baffling questions that have made Lost TV’s top brain-teaser.

    USA TODAY will publish some of the best contributions, online and in print — and forward a handful to the Lost braintrust who will evaluate them for originality, completeness, logic, etc., without spoiling future episodes by indicating if your theory is right, wrong or really wrong. (Disclaimer: No real Lost secrets will harmed in this process.)
    [/quote]
    In other words, D&C have no idea how to wrap up this story in the next two seasons, and are looking to the general public to help them out. :)

  98. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="211188"][quote comment="211178"][quote comment="210845"]

    The Manifestations are not really theses people just the image of that person produced by Smokey. The Manifestations normally come to said person to get them to do something that Smokey wants. These manifestations come in familiar forms to each individual. No manifestation has made physical contact with a person other than Charlie slapping Hurly.

    [/quote]

    Well, if you count Kate’s horse as a manifestation, she was able to touch it…[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_+_+_

    Ahhhhh…Forgot about that one.[/quote]

    +++++++++++
    You guys are also forgetting that some are apparitions and some are manifestations per the 3-21-08 podcast:

    Comments on monster forms whether they are humans, apparitions, animals, dead etc.

    * Ben’s mother Emily = Apparition
    * Sawyer’s wild boar = Animal
    * Medusa Spider = Monster
    * Hurley bird = No comment
    * Dave = Apparition/figment of imagination
    * Yemi = Monster
    * Mikhail’s cat Nadia = animal and coincidence
    * Walt = Walt the person is human, but there are apparitions of Walt that may be monster related
    * Boone in Locke’s dream = dream
    * Jack = They say he’s an apparition and are kidding about it.
    * Kate’s horse = Undead

  99. Trixanna says:

    Rita,

    While I can certainly follow your logic regarding Ben and Kate, I have to tell you how grossed out I would be! I would be SO angry with Kate if she does hook up with Ben for ANY reason. Ewwwwww!!! However, that would make for an interesting triangle. Ben, Kate, Juliet. What then happens to the Jack, Juliet, and Kate triangle? Does this make it a love square? Too mind boggling.

    WHEN DO WE GET THE NEXT EPISODE? I think it is a week from tonight… just incase it is… I have cleared my entire schedule in anticipation. (Okay, so I don’t really have a schedule, but I WOULD have cleared it if I had!)

  100. Michael says:

    This whole Des in the hatch thing has really been bugging me lately…obviously Ben and co. knew he was there….

    +_+_+_+_+_+

    If he’s been there for three years. One would think Ben would be able to get information about him. And if he was able to get info on him like he has everyone one else he would know that Des knew the Widmores. Would that evoke some sort of contact.

  101. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="211240"]won’t the kiss be between desmond and penny? that seems pretty logical.. we’ve all wanted them to finally get back together for a while now….[/quote]
    Yep, them or Kate/Sawyer. Both would qualify for on/off island romance.

    Here’s an izzle joke for ya:

    Why does Snoop Dogg carry and umbrella.

    Fo’ drizzle…get it?…fo’ drizzle?…never mind. :)

  102. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="211282"]This whole Des in the hatch thing has really been bugging me lately…obviously Ben and co. knew he was there….

    +_+_+_+_+_+

    If he’s been there for three years. One would think Ben would be able to get information about him. And if he was able to get info on him like he has everyone one else he would know that Des knew the Widmores. Would that evoke some sort of contact.[/quote]

    ++++++++++++
    If Ben knew who he is…and likely does…the best place for him would be pushing the button because that was keeping Widmore away…using a Widmore person to keep Widmore away it good. And Ben didn’t have to use one of his people to push the button….

  103. Michael says:

    If Ben knew who he is…and likely does…the best place for him would be pushing the button because that was keeping Widmore away…using a Widmore person to keep Widmore away it good. And Ben didn’t have to use one of his people to push the button….

    +_+_+_+_+_+_+_

    Ok. Yeah, makes since.

    When Ben was told that the Losties had a boat, he was shocked. Like he wasn’t even aware that there was a boat there. And there are no scenes where Ben and des are in each others presents? Odd. It’s just odd that Ben hasn’t even… Wait…after Ben gets captured by Locke as Henry. I think Locke mentions des to him and Ben said something along the lines as “that’s odd”.

  104. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="211286"]If Ben knew who he is…and likely does…the best place for him would be pushing the button because that was keeping Widmore away…using a Widmore person to keep Widmore away it good. And Ben didn’t have to use one of his people to push the button….

    +_+_+_+_+_+_+_

    Ok. Yeah, makes since.

    When Ben was told that the Losties had a boat, he was shocked. Like he wasn’t even aware that there was a boat there. And there are no scenes where Ben and des are in each others presents? Odd. It’s just odd that Ben hasn’t even… Wait…after Ben gets captured by Locke as Henry. I think Locke mentions des to him and Ben said something along the lines as “that’s odd”.[/quote]

    ++++++++++++
    Yeah, I remeber it bugging me that Ben didn’t know about Des’s boat. I don’t recall if any of the cameras were watching the Hatch? Seems Ben would have had Inman followed every time he left with the fake safety suit on?

  105. Michael says:

    [quote comment="211287"][quote comment="211286"]If Ben knew who he is…and likely does…the best place for him would be pushing the button because that was keeping Widmore away…using a Widmore person to keep Widmore away it good. And Ben didn’t have to use one of his people to push the button….

    +_+_+_+_+_+_+_

    Ok. Yeah, makes since.

    When Ben was told that the Losties had a boat, he was shocked. Like he wasn’t even aware that there was a boat there. And there are no scenes where Ben and des are in each others presents? Odd. It’s just odd that Ben hasn’t even… Wait…after Ben gets captured by Locke as Henry. I think Locke mentions des to him and Ben said something along the lines as “that’s odd”.[/quote]

    ++++++++++++
    Yeah, I remeber it bugging me that Ben didn’t know about Des’s boat. I don’t recall if any of the cameras were watching the Hatch? Seems Ben would have had Inman followed every time he left with the fake safety suit on?[/quote]
    +_+_+_+_+_+_+_

    Yeah and when he did go out He either went to the boat to repair it or out mapping out the hatch which we see on the safety door drawing.

  106. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="211284"][quote comment="211282"]This whole Des in the hatch thing has really been bugging me lately…obviously Ben and co. knew he was there….

    +_+_+_+_+_+

    If he’s been there for three years. One would think Ben would be able to get information about him. And if he was able to get info on him like he has everyone one else he would know that Des knew the Widmores. Would that evoke some sort of contact.[/quote]

    ++++++++++++
    If Ben knew who he is…and likely does…the best place for him would be pushing the button because that was keeping Widmore away…using a Widmore person to keep Widmore away it good. And Ben didn’t have to use one of his people to push the button….[/quote]
    —————-
    Didn’t Ben tell Locke, when he was a hostage in S2, that he didn’t push the button whn Locke was trapped under the door? What a manipulator.

  107. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="211317"]
    —————-
    Didn’t Ben tell Locke, when he was a hostage in S2, that he didn’t push the button whn Locke was trapped under the door? What a manipulator.[/quote]
    Yeah, that’s another hang up. Ben is the one that told Locke not the push the button. So it that because he didn’t know that it was keeping the magnet at bay? or did he already know that Locke was there to take over the island and he was trying to let Locke kill himself?

  108. Michael says:

    [quote comment="211317"][quote comment="211284"][quote comment="211282"]This whole Des in the hatch thing has really been bugging me lately…obviously Ben and co. knew he was there….

    +_+_+_+_+_+

    If he’s been there for three years. One would think Ben would be able to get information about him. And if he was able to get info on him like he has everyone one else he would know that Des knew the Widmores. Would that evoke some sort of contact.[/quote]

    ++++++++++++
    If Ben knew who he is…and likely does…the best place for him would be pushing the button because that was keeping Widmore away…using a Widmore person to keep Widmore away it good. And Ben didn’t have to use one of his people to push the button….[/quote]
    —————-
    Didn’t Ben tell Locke, when he was a hostage in S2, that he didn’t push the button whn Locke was trapped under the door? What a manipulator.[/quote]
    +_+_+_+

    he did. that was just mean. Like telling him he’s speacil then shooting him .

  109. jaime says:

    Tomorrow,[quote comment="211283"][quote comment="211240"]
    Here’s an izzle joke for ya:

    Why does Snoop Dogg carry and umbrella.

    Fo’ drizzle…get it?…fo’ drizzle?…never mind. :)[/quote]
    ########################################
    Here’s one for you Hammer…. What does Snoop do his laundry with? ….BLEEEOTCH (bleach)
    ANYWAY……
    April 18th, the video podcast where the producers take video questions from fans is set to be released. This was recorded a week or two ago. Hopefully there are some interesting tidbits about the rest of Season 4 and the future of Lost in the podcast.

  110. Poli Kovitch says:

    Ben brought DES to the Island on “the sailboat” that LIBBY gave Des “spontaneously (?) to help him RACE in response to WIDMORE’s push. There is a definite BEN_DES connection..albeit non-conspiratorial on Des’s part. He is a pawn.

    Instead of focuing on the O-6?
    Who are the Oceanic colonists choosing or forced to remain?

    Locke is going to be major, absolutely major in the next round. Claire is leaving the scene. Sawyer..he has to stay..because he gorgeous and such an important “player”..so will he, Claire, Locke,Bernard and Rose STAY ON the Island with the Others? IN the flashforward S-3, we all know that Jack wants to go back..is it to join them? Save them because he feels like he abandoned them..and did? Return Claire (his half-sister) to his nephew, Aaron.

  111. jaime says:

    Don’t forget…tonight (AT least in the states) we will be getting not 1 but 2 back to back enhanced episodes. “Ji Yeon” & “Meet Kevin Johnson”. YEAH!!!!!!! Also, could someone help me with the pronunciation of Ji Yeon phonetically. Thanks

  112. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="211334"]
    ########################################
    Here’s one for you Hammer…. What does Snoop do his laundry with? ….BLEEEOTCH (bleach)
    ANYWAY……
    April 18th, the video podcast where the producers take video questions from fans is set to be released. This was recorded a week or two ago. Hopefully there are some interesting tidbits about the rest of Season 4 and the future of Lost in the podcast.[/quote]
    Funny…but I am waiting for a reply from rdizzle…fo’ shizzle.:)

    Thanks for the tidbits.

  113. Michael says:

    [quote comment="211335"]Ben brought DES to the Island on “the sailboat” that LIBBY gave Des “spontaneously (?) to help him RACE in response to WIDMORE’s push. There is a definite BEN_DES connection..albeit non-conspiratorial on Des’s part. He is a pawn.

    Instead of focuing on the O-6?
    Who are the Oceanic colonists choosing or forced to remain?

    Locke is going to be major, absolutely major in the next round. Claire is leaving the scene. Sawyer..he has to stay..because he gorgeous and such an important “player”..so will he, Claire, Locke,Bernard and Rose STAY ON the Island with the Others? IN the flashforward S-3, we all know that Jack wants to go back..is it to join them? Save them because he feels like he abandoned them..and did? Return Claire (his half-sister) to his nephew, Aaron.[/quote]

    _+_+_+_+_+_+_

    I don’t think claire has to die or any thing. She can be taken on or off the island by who ever for what ever reason. She did have a baby on the island. Thats got to be worth something to some one.

    Ben brought De? Ok, but why?

    Locke is deffinatly going to be holding down the fort With some of the other losties and some of the others. Lot of those people don’t want to leave the island. Like Ben said they just need to know that thet can.

    I think Alpert will be a magor part to come. He was an original Hostle turn other and might turn Lostie.

    I’m not sure on Jack yet.

  114. TanziTwo says:

    [quote comment="211338"]
    Also, could someone help me with the pronunciation of Ji Yeon phonetically.
    [/quote]
    try ‘gee… yawn’

    like gee whiz and what you do when you are tired.

  115. jaime says:

    [quote comment="211351"][quote comment="211338"]
    Also, could someone help me with the pronunciation of Ji Yeon phonetically.
    [/quote]
    try ‘gee… yawn’

    like gee whiz and what you do when you are tired.[/quote]
    *******************
    Thanks brotha…..or sista :)

  116. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="211263"][quote comment="210786"]Here’s your chance to have your hypothesis graded by the experts – Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, executive producers of the ABC drama (returning April 24, 10 p.m. ET/PT). In 200 words or less, give us your explanation of any or all of the myriad mysteries: the island, the survivors of Flight 815, The Others, Dharma and any of the other baffling questions that have made Lost TV’s top brain-teaser.

    USA TODAY will publish some of the best contributions, online and in print — and forward a handful to the Lost braintrust who will evaluate them for originality, completeness, logic, etc., without spoiling future episodes by indicating if your theory is right, wrong or really wrong. (Disclaimer: No real Lost secrets will harmed in this process.)
    [/quote]
    In other words, D&C have no idea how to wrap up this story in the next two seasons, and are looking to the general public to help them out. :)[/quote]

    ++++++++++++++
    Well, if that is true I would be proud to be part of the best TV show going…(if they like the whisper theory that is). :)

  117. Michael says:

    Did anyone else think the way Charlie looked when Hurley saw him was odd? He had a hair cut, glasses, leather jacket. Like he had a bit of money. He looked sober. It didn’t look like a Charlie that Hugo would imagine and it didn’t look like and image that Smokey would produce.
    Right? If you would imagine some one you would imagine them the way you best remember them. And that’s the way Smokey shows the manifestations. The way you would best recognize someone.

  118. PJSander says:

    [quote comment="211371"]Did anyone else think the way Charlie looked when Hurley saw him was odd? He had a hair cut, glasses, leather jacket. Like he had a bit of money. He looked sober. It didn’t look like a Charlie that Hugo would imagine and it didn’t look like and image that Smokey would produce.
    Right? If you would imagine some one you would imagine them the way you best remember them. And that’s the way Smokey shows the manifestations. The way you would best recognize someone.[/quote]

    That’s what I thought about Libby in “Meet Kevin Johnson.” Her hair was must darker and wavy, which was odd. Plus, Michael really only saw for for the few seconds before he shot her, right? He hadn’t MET her. It is weird that his dream would involve her and not Ana Lucia or both of them. EXCEPT if Libby IS, as we suspect, much more important to the mythology of the show.

    I found it somewhat telling (of what, I do not know) that the Pop-Ups in MKJ mentioned the fact that Libby was holding blankets in Michael’s dream, just as she was when he shot her. (I thought it was a pillow – remember my “bullet proof pillow” theory! LOL)

    Okay, enough speculating for a repeat for tonight. Six days, twenty hours and sixteen minutes until “The Shape of Things to Come!”

    LAA meeting anyone?

    : ) P

  119. lost chicka says:

    about who kate ment when she said “he” at the season 3 finale. i think she meant aaron. i think she wasn’t naming him bcuz it upsets jack, obviously something about aaron (he couldn’t save claire??) makes him feel like he can’t even look at him.

    when smokey manifested as yemi (mr ecko’s brother), didn’t he burn down the tent???

    leah (c67): mr. friendly & ben. it’s a long time coming. :P but of course that’s only if vincent & patchy’s cat don’t get the spectacular kiss. but seriously, i think the SPECTACULAR kiss would be Penny & Des. Sayid and Nadia would be pretty romantic too.

    jaime (c83) my new favorite video – the lost theme song :)

    good thought michael (c90)

  120. lost chicka says:

    we already know the Oceanic 6 (according to commercials) they are: Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Aaron, & Sun. so doesn’t that mean there are NO other people that will be part of the O6 people? so yeah, obviously if des or juliet get off the island they won’t be part of the O6.

    maybe ben & friends didn’t think des & good ole inman were threats so they didn’t watch them that closely. sure, inman never coming back after his one walk would be a bit odd, especially with des following him out there, but…. idk, i just can’t think of des as the bad guy and i really don’t see him as a bad guy.

    oh yeah, the connection of how Libby was holding blankets in Michael’s, erm Kevin Johnson’s, dream and that’s what she was holding when he shot her. and after watching the episode last night again, i am SOOOO worried about Karl (i have a bad feeling about this), Danielle (o please do NOT be dead!!!), and Alex (please don’t be killed!).

  121. deangoodes says:

    There certainly could be more of the Losties that make it back to the real world. We have heard about the O6 up to the point in the future they’ve gotten to. Who’s to say more of the Losties don’t make it back in the future, further ahead in the storyline than we’ve seen so far. Just because Claire, Rose, Bernard, etc.. aren’t part of the O6 doesn’t automatically mean they die or never leave the island, does it??

  122. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="211628"]There certainly could be more of the Losties that make it back to the real world. We have heard about the O6 up to the point in the future they’ve gotten to. Who’s to say more of the Losties don’t make it back in the future, further ahead in the storyline than we’ve seen so far. Just because Claire, Rose, Bernard, etc.. aren’t part of the O6 doesn’t automatically mean they die or never leave the island, does it??[/quote]
    Never say never…they just are not part of the the O6. Obviously we don’t know how the story ends. The battle between Ben and Widmore might end with island becoming public.

  123. jaime says:

    [quote comment="211628"]There certainly could be more of the Losties that make it back to the real world. We have heard about the O6 up to the point in the future they’ve gotten to. Who’s to say more of the Losties don’t make it back in the future, further ahead in the storyline than we’ve seen so far. Just because Claire, Rose, Bernard, etc.. aren’t part of the O6 doesn’t automatically mean they die or never leave the island, does it??[/quote]

    ###############################
    I absolutely think more of the Losties make it off the island at one point or another. Hate to mention the “c” word but IMO one of them is in there and it’s not an 06er (I think it’s Locke) :) :) :)

  124. Hammer says:

    Even though I think the kiss will be Kate/Sawyer, here’s on odd one: Ben/Danielle.

  125. jaime says:

    [quote comment="211710"]Even though I think the kiss will be Kate/Sawyer, here’s on odd one: Ben/Danielle.[/quote]
    ###############################
    WOW….could you imagine if you are right. Now that would make for a spectacular cliff hanger for sure.

  126. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="211715"][quote comment="211710"]Even though I think the kiss will be Kate/Sawyer, here’s on odd one: Ben/Danielle.[/quote]
    ###############################
    WOW….could you imagine if you are right. Now that would make for a spectacular cliff hanger for sure.[/quote]

    Yeah, with the whole “on and off” island romance comment, and Ben being off the island in the FF…(remember, we still don’t the “truth” about Danielle’s 16 years on the island.

  127. Hammer says:

    BTW folks, don’t watch any commercials on ABC unless you want to know who shot Karl and Danielle…dead(ha-ha) give away.

  128. jaime says:

    [quote comment="211729"]BTW folks, don’t watch any commercials on ABC unless you want to know who shot Karl and Danielle…dead(ha-ha) give away.[/quote]
    ##########################
    I know, i was so upset last night. They kept playing it over and over and now i know who it was. And since i know I have to tell someone. The person who shot them was……….maggie simpson. :) :) Seriously though, why would they keep showing it. I couldn’t avoid it.

  129. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="211371"]Did anyone else think the way Charlie looked when Hurley saw him was odd? He had a hair cut, glasses, leather jacket. Like he had a bit of money. He looked sober. It didn’t look like a Charlie that Hugo would imagine and it didn’t look like and image that Smokey would produce.
    Right? If you would imagine some one you would imagine them the way you best remember them. And that’s the way Smokey shows the manifestations. The way you would best recognize someone.[/quote]
    I thought he looked like a rockstar.

  130. Michael says:

    [quote comment="211983"][quote comment="211371"]Did anyone else think the way Charlie looked when Hurley saw him was odd? He had a hair cut, glasses, leather jacket. Like he had a bit of money. He looked sober. It didn’t look like a Charlie that Hugo would imagine and it didn’t look like and image that Smokey would produce.
    Right? If you would imagine some one you would imagine them the way you best remember them. And that’s the way Smokey shows the manifestations. The way you would best recognize someone.[/quote]
    I thought he looked like a rockstar.[/quote]
    _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_

    He does. I wonder if Smokey is manifesting Charlie’s Royalties from his greatest hits album.

    That brings up another point. Charlie went to Australia to get the band back together. His brother said no. Charlie leaves, plain crash, dies. Then his brother gets the band back together. Actual the new album cam out long before Charlie died. Kinda messed up.

  131. Polli Kovitch says:

    AARON’s FATHER… Since Claire does not leave the island and is in Kate’s care…Could AARON’s FATHER (Thomas..no last name..curious?) turn up to claim him? Could he have had any prior association with Ben? In season 1 we learn that Claire is directed toward the flight. Take a look at AARON’s father..and NOTE the striking resemblance to BEN…http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Thomas

  132. Michael says:

    [quote comment="212130"]AARON’s FATHER… Since Claire does not leave the island and is in Kate’s care…Could AARON’s FATHER (Thomas..no last name..curious?) turn up to claim him? Could he have had any prior association with Ben? In season 1 we learn that Claire is directed toward the flight. Take a look at AARON’s father..and NOTE the striking resemblance to BEN…http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Thomas%5B/quote%5D
    +_+++_+_++_

    or her mother!

  133. leah says:

    I agree with you totally Toeknee[98]it smacks
    of ‘which way forward’But as i’ve said before I thought they’d been eves dropping on lost blogs like this one, for ages.

  134. leah says:

    [quote comment="211769"][quote comment="211729"]BTW folks, don’t watch any commercials on ABC unless you want to know who shot Karl and Danielle…dead(ha-ha) give away.[/quote]
    ##########################
    I know, i was so upset last night. They kept playing it over and over and now i know who it was. And since i know I have to tell someone. The person who shot them was……….maggie simpson. :) :) Seriously though, why would they keep showing it. I couldn’t avoid it.[/quote]
    /////////////////
    Just tell me then?…go on …whisper it?

  135. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="212353"][quote comment="211769"][quote comment="211729"]BTW folks, don’t watch any commercials on ABC unless you want to know who shot Karl and Danielle…dead(ha-ha) give away.[/quote]
    ##########################
    I know, i was so upset last night. They kept playing it over and over and now i know who it was. And since i know I have to tell someone. The person who shot them was……….maggie simpson. :) :) Seriously though, why would they keep showing it. I couldn’t avoid it.[/quote]
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    Just tell me then?…go on …whisper it?[/quote]

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    (Whispering). You can watch the promos on youtube if you haven’t seen any of the commercials on ABC.

  136. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="211710"]Even though I think the kiss will be Kate/Sawyer, here’s on odd one: Ben/Danielle.[/quote]
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    comment 178 MKJ
    Is Alex REALLY Ben’s daughter? Did he and Rousseaou meet off the island and then he had her stranded there at 8 months pregnant?
    Im sure they have a Rousseau flashback coming PJ Sander….or maybe she will be in another one of Ben’s

  137. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="212493"][quote comment="211710"]Even though I think the kiss will be Kate/Sawyer, here’s on odd one: Ben/Danielle.[/quote]
    —————–
    comment 178 MKJ
    Is Alex REALLY Ben’s daughter? Did he and Rousseaou meet off the island and then he had her stranded there at 8 months pregnant?
    Im sure they have a Rousseau flashback coming PJ Sander….or maybe she will be in another one of Ben’s[/quote]

    ++++++++++++
    Here’s my current thinking: I don’t know what it’s like to have an adopted child, but I would think that with Ben’s lifelong dedication to the survival of the island (contraversial comment coming) Ben would sacrifice Alex to meet that end if she were “adopted”(in quotation marks because I don’t think this would be a legal adoption but more like kidnapping). My thought is that he MUST be her paternal father because of how adimate he about keeping her out of the equation. That her capture could compromise the island.

  138. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="212529"][quote comment="212493"][quote comment="211710"]Even though I think the kiss will be Kate/Sawyer, here’s on odd one: Ben/Danielle.[/quote]
    —————–
    comment 178 MKJ
    Is Alex REALLY Ben’s daughter? Did he and Rousseaou meet off the island and then he had her stranded there at 8 months pregnant?
    Im sure they have a Rousseau flashback coming PJ Sander….or maybe she will be in another one of Ben’s[/quote]

    ++++++++++++
    Here’s my current thinking: I don’t know what it’s like to have an adopted child, but I would think that with Ben’s lifelong dedication to the survival of the island (contraversial comment coming) Ben would sacrifice Alex to meet that end if she were “adopted”(in quotation marks because I don’t think this would be a legal adoption but more like kidnapping). My thought is that he MUST be her paternal father because of how adimate he about keeping her out of the equation. That her capture could compromise the island.[/quote]
    —————-
    Totally agree. I don’t think it’s that far-fetched either. I am not very religious, but wasn’t the sacrificing of children prevelant in the Bible, specifically the Old Testament? Especially if Ben thinks its for his GREATER GOOD.

  139. Michael says:

    Here’s my current thinking: I don’t know what it’s like to have an adopted child, but I would think that with Ben’s lifelong dedication to the survival of the island (contraversial comment coming) Ben would sacrifice Alex to meet that end if she were “adopted”(in quotation marks because I don’t think this would be a legal adoption but more like kidnapping). My thought is that he MUST be her paternal father because of how adimate he about keeping her out of the equation. That her capture could compromise the island.

    —————-
    Totally agree. I don’t think it’s that far-fetched either. I am not very religious, but wasn’t the sacrificing of children prevelant in the Bible, specifically the Old Testament? Especially if Ben thinks its for his GREATER GOOD.

    +_+_+_+_+_+_+

    I Think Ben has it in him to let her die and he knows that. I don’t see Locke letting it happen and i think Ben always has an ace up his sleeve. He and his endless amount of information gets him out of some sticky situations.

  140. DocH says:

    [quote]
    … I would think that with Ben’s lifelong dedication to the survival of the island… Ben would sacrifice Alex to meet that end…. My thought is that he MUST be her paternal father because of how adimate he about keeping her out of the equation. That her capture could compromise the island.
    [/quote]

    While I agree that Ben, if placed between the hardest of two rocks, just might, ever so slightly, favor the island ahead of Alexandra, I do not think (adamant) that he in any way, shape or form, is the biological father of Alex. He is however, very emotionally and socially her father. If he has been her primary male role-model from birth, and she regards him as ‘father’, then that is what he is. No need to get fancy about it. Also, that is why Alex is so important to the attackers, she is perhaps the ONLY leverage that might have any influence Ben.
    Why is Alex so important to Ben – other than the standard ‘dad-daughter’ stuff? Ben is an obsessive, manical, psycho-social manipulator. He has led a life where the women in it are the focus – they are the “good and ideal” things to protect and defend. Think what we know of his mom, his young girlfriend, his play for Juliet, and his raising of Alex. Who knows who else is in between? Maybe after the purge, Ben took a mate or two (or more) over the years. Each one that got pregnant and then died (hence the fertility focus) AND squashed his goal of becoming a ‘good father’, in defiance of his dads’ legacy. Then – Alexandra came into his life… though the island wouldn’t let him procreate his way into fatherhood, at least baby Alex would allow him to achieve his fatherhood goals and satisfy that missing portion of his unfulfilled life.
    ((Psych 202))

  141. DocH says:

    After-thought: What would have been REALLY cool is – if we had seen Alex off-island in one of the OA6 flash-forwards, like we saw Ben. Better yet, if we saw Alex in Kates’ FF – as the nanny of Aaron.

  142. lost chicka says:

    docH(c141): i love that comment it’s really good. great take on ben & alex.

    danielle can’t be dead, she never got a flashback!

  143. TanziTwo says:

    [quote comment="212849"]
    danielle can’t be dead, she never got a flashback!
    [/quote]
    > Ditto. But not many get a flashback. Mostly you have to be a Lostie, Tailie or Other to get a dedicated flash back [or Des/Tot]. Mostly Losties get the FB/FF. We have a few Tailie FBs – Ana Lucia, Eco, & Bernard w/ Lostie Rose. ‘Other’ FBs include Ben & Juliet. Des, and the Freighter Tots, have had their FBs. Did I miss anyone? Nikki & Paulo qualify as Losties.

    > I think we will see FBs & FFs for many non-islanders in the next two seasons. I’d like to see Dr. Candle, Widmore, Penelope, Paik, more Tots, more Dharma, & Alpert. I believe a Danielle FB would really add to the saga & myth too!, but she is probably dead after Meet K. Johnson.

  144. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="212685"][quote]
    … I would think that with Ben’s lifelong dedication to the survival of the island… Ben would sacrifice Alex to meet that end…. My thought is that he MUST be her paternal father because of how adimate he about keeping her out of the equation. That her capture could compromise the island.
    [/quote]

    While I agree that Ben, if placed between the hardest of two rocks, just might, ever so slightly, favor the island ahead of Alexandra, I do not think (adamant) that he in any way, shape or form, is the biological father of Alex. He is however, very emotionally and socially her father. If he has been her primary male role-model from birth, and she regards him as ‘father’, then that is what he is. No need to get fancy about it. Also, that is why Alex is so important to the attackers, she is perhaps the ONLY leverage that might have any influence Ben.
    Why is Alex so important to Ben – other than the standard ‘dad-daughter’ stuff? Ben is an obsessive, manical, psycho-social manipulator. He has led a life where the women in it are the focus – they are the “good and ideal” things to protect and defend. Think what we know of his mom, his young girlfriend, his play for Juliet, and his raising of Alex. Who knows who else is in between? Maybe after the purge, Ben took a mate or two (or more) over the years. Each one that got pregnant and then died (hence the fertility focus) AND squashed his goal of becoming a ‘good father’, in defiance of his dads’ legacy. Then – Alexandra came into his life… though the island wouldn’t let him procreate his way into fatherhood, at least baby Alex would allow him to achieve his fatherhood goals and satisfy that missing portion of his unfulfilled life.
    ((Psych 202))[/quote]

    +++++++++++
    Can’t argue with the good doctor on the Psych 202 point. (Thanks for the spelling tip. Since I didn’t try to hide it, I’m not an idiot?)

    But, until the show tells me who in heck Danielle really is and why she was able to live 16 years without problems with the Others or Smokey…I have my suspicions about her and Ben.

  145. PJSander says:

    [quote comment="212849"]danielle can’t be dead, she never got a flashback![/quote]

    While D&C would neither confirm nor deny that Rousseau is dead, they did remind us in their last podcast that being dead doesn’t mean it is the end of the story and essentially alluded to there being a Rousseau flashback – though it was not clear if it would be HER flashback or that she would appear in another character’s flashback.

    : ) P

  146. leah says:

    Concerning the fatalities of all the women that have died at child birth, could Ben be the sperm donor to all the women ? There is a distinct lack of grieving fathers/husbands around. Perhaps thats what alpert was talking about when he said ben had his own issues. It would account for why when ben and juliet were disgussing bens xrays, the subject of cancer was alarming.I ve not heard mention of Juliet ,testing the males on the island.

  147. Michael says:

    [quote comment="213109"]Concerning the fatalities of all the women that have died at child birth, could Ben be the sperm donor to all the women ? There is a distinct lack of grieving fathers/husbands around. Perhaps thats what alpert was talking about when he said ben had his own issues. It would account for why when ben and juliet were disgussing bens xrays, the subject of cancer was alarming.I ve not heard mention of Juliet ,testing the males on the island.[/quote]
    _+_+_+_+_+_+_

    Good point.

  148. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="213109"]Concerning the fatalities of all the women that have died at child birth, could Ben be the sperm donor to all the women ? There is a distinct lack of grieving fathers/husbands around. Perhaps thats what alpert was talking about when he said ben had his own issues. It would account for why when ben and juliet were disgussing bens xrays, the subject of cancer was alarming.I ve not heard mention of Juliet ,testing the males on the island.[/quote]
    You might have something there, although this is info some have gleened (from unreliable lostpedia):
    # There appears to be some evidence that women on the Island suffer from a form of degeneration of their reproductive organs. In “Not in Portland”, Richard Alpert showed Juliet a scan of a woman in her 20s, though they seemed more fitting of a woman in her 70s in terms of signs of reproductive capability. Juliet was told that this would be one of the things she would investigate on the Island.
    # It has not been explicitly stated that this problem was solved by Juliet’s research, or indeed even actually existed, but we know that while Juliet was on the Island, women were dying after becoming pregnant, suggesting that infertility was no longer an issue, if it ever was to begin with.
    # Island males, on the other hand, see their sperm counts multiply five times normal, so that in each, uh, dose, contains 300 to 400 million sperm. (Healthy normal sperm counts are 40 to 50 million per sample.)

  149. TanziTwo says:

    [quote comment="213109"]
    … could Ben be the … donor to all the women?
    [/quote]

    > eeewwwww! i am not even going to try and guess what ben does in his ‘secret closet’.

    > if kids start showing-up with bug-eyes, then maybe.

  150. Hammer says:

    [quote comment="213117"][quote comment="213109"]
    … could Ben be the … donor to all the women?
    [/quote]

    > eeewwwww! i am not even going to try and guess what ben does in his ‘secret closet’.

    > if kids start showing-up with bug-eyes, then maybe.[/quote]

    ++++++++
    ROTFL!!!

  151. leah says:

    ROTFL!!!
    what does that mean?

  152. lost4ever says:

    [quote comment="213270"]ROTFL!!!
    what does that mean?[/quote]
    Rolling On The Floor Laughing….or maybe
    Richard Owns Time For Losties….or maybe
    Rotting Over Time Foreshadowing Lost…or maybe
    Ranting On Thursdays Feeling LOST4EVER

    It is actually the first one Leah, but I like the last one.

  153. Lady Ginger says:

    Here’s my two cents. I think I’m taking a new direction in my thoughts about everyone on the island. Ben knew that he would meet Sayid when he was a boy. Some how Sayid doesn’t remember. That’s how Ben knows so much information about the future and uses it against the hostiles (as grown Ben is the head leader in the future for the “D” group) The reason Ben needed to go back and pushed the wheel is because he wanted to reverse time and use the Oceanic 6 to help kill off the hostiles and win the war. Remember everyone’s nose started to bleed. Someone mention( I think Faraday)that anyone who has been on the island before nose would bleed. Therefore Sawyer and the others had to have been there before. I believe that’s why Ben went on his murdering spree was because he knew what was to come. In one of the seasons the “D” group had Sawyer piling rocks and he asked Juliet why he was doing it and She told him they were building a runway. Ben knew that he was going to have the other Oceanic 6 come back and as we seen tonight the plane landed on a cleared runway. Which I believe the earlier Sawyer was building when he was captured by Ben’s group. I believe Jack’s father Christian use to work on the island as a doctor a long time ago. He went back and had a family, but he too felt the island calling him back, but he didn’t want to leave his son, so he too began to drink, just like Jack was drinking for the same reasons. I believe who ever Christian was working for knew Jack was bring him on that airplane and caused it to crash, so he could bring Christian back to life(Just like the island brought Locke back to life. That’s how Christian knew what to tell Locke in the well when he was telling him about him pushing the wheel). I have a lot more theories about what’s going on, but this is enough for now. Tell me what your thoughts are. (I’m sorry if I confused some of you)

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